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Posted: 10/6/2004 6:14:37 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/6/2004 6:20:12 AM EST by ANGST]
Bill Clinton or John Kerry ?


and any form of "neither" is acceptable you have to choose
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 6:15:47 AM EST
I'd rather have Slick Willie back. At least he was more concerned with intern tail than turning the country over to the UN.
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 6:16:48 AM EST
Clinton, of course, jesus he may have been some what of an idiot but kerry, well as they say is very scary.
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 6:17:19 AM EST
Both Klinton and sKerry teh suck but billy boy is a little better imo.
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 6:17:30 AM EST
Yep I think Kerry would be worse then Clinton.
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 6:18:47 AM EST
If you mean Bill Clinton, not Hilary, then I would want him MUCH more than Kerry. Clinton isn't a liberal ideologue, he's simply an unprincipled, unethical politician who panders to his power base. He didn't do much in office, and most of his more liberal ideas were derailed in Congress.
Kerry IS an arch-liberal, and a traitor.
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 6:19:09 AM EST
Clinton was a phoney baloney plastic bananna good time rock and roller.

Kerry is a dedicated Marxist.

Clinton was a draft dodger.

Kerry was a Marxist collaborator.

Clinton co-opted much of the Republican agenda.

Kerry has nothing but Marxist sugar plums dancing in his head.

EASY answer - Clintoon.

Link Posted: 10/6/2004 6:19:51 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 6:22:47 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/6/2004 6:23:24 AM EST by mkgunz]
Clinton screwed the military more than Lewinsky. Why do you think we have so many problems. He placed incompetant people in charge of the CIA, hmmm, maybe that could be part of the problem with our intelligence commmunity. Horrible leaders in our military were advanced because they were a politician like him, not for their war fighting ability. We don't have enough of the newer advanced Tomahawks and were forced to use old unreliable leftovers that crash landed in Turkey and probably other countries too. We didn't get enough yard periods for the ships that were out there, so they're getting shit canned with no replacements. I think I'd rather revolt than have either communistic bastard in control.
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 6:22:54 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/6/2004 6:25:46 AM EST by Dino]
I liked Clinton as president, in fact my only problems with him were the awb, millitary cutbacks, and lying about his affair.

If you had put up GWB or Clinton, I would still have picked Clinton.


Link Posted: 10/6/2004 6:24:46 AM EST
What kind of choice is this? Klinton or Kerry?

Why not dog shit or cat shit?

Why not cyanide or Ricin?

We'd be better off with nailing the Whitehouse door shut for four years than either of those assh*les in office.
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 6:30:19 AM EST

Link Posted: 10/6/2004 6:32:01 AM EST

Originally Posted By Dino:
I liked Clinton as president, in fact my only problems with him were the awb, millitary cutbacks, and lying about his affair.






GEEZ dude - how much more would Clintoon have to have done for you to DISLIKE him "as president"???

He disarmed the citizens, he hamstrung our military, and he lied to the nation AND in a judicial proceeding.

I'm guessing you'd need videotape of him multiple murdering a class of second graders.

Link Posted: 10/6/2004 6:32:02 AM EST

Originally Posted By Dino:
I liked Clinton as president, in fact my only problems with him were the awb, millitary cutbacks, and lying about his affair.

If you had put up GWB or Clinton, I would still have picked Clinton.





Then your thought processes are incredibly screwed up.
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 6:35:01 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 6:38:21 AM EST

Originally Posted By Lightning_P38:
This is scary, I never thought I would see a day when most people here saw Bil Clinton as a better choice for President than anybody else.



That's because Kerry is one scary dude! Hell, even Teddy said he was the most liberal senator in congress! That's saying something coming from Teddy.
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 6:38:50 AM EST
I already know the kind of f-ing I'll get from Klinton.
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 6:39:15 AM EST
He looks like Father Damien Karras from The Exorcist in that picture.

Link Posted: 10/6/2004 6:39:41 AM EST
What a lousy choice to have to make, but given the two in question, I'd have to say BlowJob BillyJeff is the lesser of the two evils. Please note I didn't say the better man, just the lesser evil.

I never thought I'd despise any of the Demonrats as badly as I despise the Hilly/Billy gruesome twosome, but I was wrong. John F'ing Kerry needs to be tried for treason rather than be sworn in as POTUS. What he did in Vietnam alone should disqualify him from running for the office, never mind his excrementitious senate voting record.

Just my 2¢ worth.........
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 6:46:57 AM EST

Originally Posted By Dino:
I liked Clinton as president, in fact my only problems with him were the awb, millitary cutbacks, and lying about his affair.

If you had put up GWB or Clinton, I would still have picked Clinton.



i'm glad you got this out of the way. i'll know now to skip any other mindless posts by you.
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 6:59:33 AM EST

Originally Posted By Dino:
I liked Clinton as president, in fact my only problems with him were the awb, millitary cutbacks, and lying about his affair.

If you had put up GWB or Clinton, I would still have picked Clinton.



Link Posted: 10/6/2004 7:07:40 AM EST
I dont think much of either choice.
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 7:10:28 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/6/2004 7:13:28 AM EST by the]

Originally Posted By Dino:
If you had put up GWB or Clinton, I would still have picked Clinton.





Yeah, you and Chinese nuclear scientists, Carlos Vignali, James Riyadi, the nice people of FALN, gun grabbers, tax hikers ....
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 7:14:54 AM EST
Ted Nugent wasn't an option?
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 7:16:22 AM EST
i like clinton.
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 7:18:17 AM EST

Originally Posted By Sierra_Hombre:
i like clinton.



Really? That's strange....
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 7:21:13 AM EST
I hope you ment Bill and not Hillery.
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 7:22:24 AM EST

Originally Posted By Dino:
I liked Clinton as president, in fact my only problems with him were the awb, millitary cutbacks, and lying about his affair.

If you had put up GWB or Clinton, I would still have picked Clinton.





I think that overall I prefer Clinton's domestic policy to GWBs. Clinton gave us a balanced budget, good environmental and energy policies, welfare reform, Family Leave Act, and had some good ideas on healthcare (altho his orginal plan was a monstrosity). In the "con" column, he gave us the AWB and militarized law enforcement, altho the LE thing calmed down a lot in his second term. He also did nothing to help reform this country's ridiculous legal system, reduce incarceration rates, or end the failed 30 year money hole we embarassingly refer to as the "Drug War", but all of these also apply equally to GWB.

But. Clinton fucked our foreign and military policy six ways to Sunday. And for that reason he's going to be remembered as one of the worst presidents of the 20th century.

Kerry would be the worst of both worlds.
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 7:23:38 AM EST

Originally Posted By Dino:
I liked Clinton as president, in fact my only problems with him were the awb, millitary cutbacks, and lying about his affair.

If you had put up GWB or Clinton, I would still have picked Clinton.






Thats it. You're on the list.
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 7:24:32 AM EST
It amazes me that so many would rather have Clinton instead of Kerry.

Clinton was hands down the most corrupt, criminal, treasonous president we've EVER had. Kerry MIGHT be bad, but he's yet to prove it on a level Clinton did for 8 years.

If Clinton had addressed the first WTC bombing, the embassy explosions in East Africa, the bombing of the USS Cole and hadn't had our troops run from a bloody nose in Somalia, and had he dealt with the terrorists in the way he should have, we likely could have avoided 09/11 all together. Clinton set the standard for the U.S., single handedly, that told the fanatics that attacking us would never be met with any real force, thus emboldening them to strike us at home.

That is just one example. How anyone could suggest that someone who's never been president, would or could be as HORRIBLE as Clinton actually was, seems like a stretch. I'm not saying Kerry would be a good president, but there is no reason to believe that he'd be as bad as Clinton has already proven he was.

Clinton was THE worst...by a long shot, and until someone, god forbid, comes along and lowers the bar even further, he will ALWAYS be the standard by which corruption, treason and disgrace to the Oval Office will be measured by, by me.
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 7:25:43 AM EST

Originally Posted By ANGST:
Bill Clinton or John Kerry ?


and any form of "neither" is acceptable you have to choose hr


Thank God it hasn't come to that yet.
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 7:28:24 AM EST
RikWriter and garandman couldn't have said it better.
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 7:30:58 AM EST
Not very good choices.

Its like asking if you rather be shot or stabbed.


Bobwrench
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 7:31:35 AM EST
Clinton was a 10x better President than Kerry could ever hope to be.

While some of his policies sucked (gun ban comes to mind) he actually was able to reach across party lines and work with the Republicans on numerous issues. I thought he did a pretty good job with the economy too, and I think a lot of people, Dems or Reps would agree with that.

I'd say both have an equally distasteful choice in women
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 7:40:45 AM EST
At least Clinton had rhythm
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 7:42:12 AM EST
Hitlary Clinton?
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 7:55:51 AM EST
Kind of like asking if you would rather have your head or your penis severed.
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 8:15:33 AM EST

Originally Posted By EricTheHun:

Originally Posted By ANGST:
Yep I think Kerry would be worse then Clinton.


+1.

Yep. He was a jackass, but Kerry has the potential to be a even greater jackass. And after Sept 11th, we don't need any monumental jackasses in charge of protecting this country.

Eric The(Cynical)Hun





AMEN!!!
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 8:37:37 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/6/2004 8:39:26 AM EST by Dino]

Originally Posted By garandman:

Originally Posted By Dino:
I liked Clinton as president, in fact my only problems with him were the awb, millitary cutbacks, and lying about his affair.






GEEZ dude - how much more would Clintoon have to have done for you to DISLIKE him "as president"???

He disarmed the citizens, he hamstrung our military, and he lied to the nation AND in a judicial proceeding.

I'm guessing you'd need videotape of him multiple murdering a class of second graders.




No I've seen that videotape. The one Falwell put out implicating him in all sorts of murders. I think they also tried to finger him for the Kennedy assassination :P. It was Farenheit 911 of its day. I'm still trying to find a copy on DVD.

I disagree with Bush on a lot more things then I did with Clinton.

Hell if Kerry would actually give a concrete position I might have voted for him. He's too busy trying to please everyone so I have no idea what his actual position is.

The biggest thing I like about GWB is he takes a position and stands by it. I can respect that even if I don't agree on some positions.

Link Posted: 10/6/2004 8:41:20 AM EST
Din0 -

I STILL say you are a dinosuar.

And a cartoonish one at that.



Link Posted: 10/6/2004 3:53:35 PM EST
You know what, it's funny, Klinton sat in hearings and said he couldn't remember or recall anyhting. Then he get's $10 million to right about it in a book. ???
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 3:54:23 PM EST
Where in the fuck is the niether button?
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 3:54:46 PM EST
They're both douche bags of the first degree, however, Clinton wasn't as "Uber Socialist" as Kerry is.

Link Posted: 10/6/2004 4:21:56 PM EST
Buy both! Then nuke them from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

I guess Clinton at least liked pie.
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 4:27:44 PM EST
I I had no choice ...... Billy

After all , he wants to get a hummer ...... Not give one
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 4:32:35 PM EST
Thats like a choice between the devil and satan,
aren't they one in the sameAt least clinton was a pussy though, i guess that that is better thatn having the United States Of Kerry
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