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Posted: 4/24/2014 6:34:45 PM EDT
Besides Obama that is.
Link Posted: 4/24/2014 6:35:59 PM EDT
Roosevelt.
Link Posted: 4/24/2014 6:37:09 PM EDT
I'd say Wilson did the most fundamental damage to the country by knocking some vital protections out of the Constitution. Roosevelt is a close second with his sweeping statist legislation, though.
Link Posted: 4/24/2014 6:41:40 PM EDT
Wilson. He was a full blown jack booted thug.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeff-taylor/wilson-the-worst_b_4259999.html (link left cold because it's the fucking Huff Post).
Link Posted: 4/24/2014 6:42:19 PM EDT
FDR
Link Posted: 4/24/2014 6:42:54 PM EDT
Where's Zero?
Link Posted: 4/24/2014 6:43:32 PM EDT
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He said BESIDES Obungler
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I assumed he would win so I left him out.
Link Posted: 4/24/2014 6:43:48 PM EDT
What is with you and the Nazi threads today?
Link Posted: 4/24/2014 6:44:05 PM EDT
I would say its a tie between Dictator FDR and Thug Wilson
Link Posted: 4/24/2014 6:44:25 PM EDT
"Sorry for bein' late. Had to stop at the wax musuem and give the finger to FDR!"

-Cotton Hill
Link Posted: 4/24/2014 6:47:10 PM EDT
Wilson definitely
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It's just been on my mind lately. I have been arguing with a friend about fascism and I noted that the most fascistic presidents in the US were products of the left. IMHO, both Roosevelts, Wilson and Obama top the list.
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Originally Posted By Mastadon:
I'd say Wilson did the most fundamental damage to the country by knocking some vital protections out of the Constitution. Roosevelt is a close second with his sweeping statist legislation, though.
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This.
Link Posted: 4/24/2014 6:49:02 PM EDT
abraham lincoln was a dictator who killed his own people

FDR provoked japan with sanctions so they would attack first and sway the public to let him into the war in europe that he desperately wanted, not to mention passed the NFA, confiscated gold, sedition acts, etc
Link Posted: 4/24/2014 6:49:08 PM EDT
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1st Lincoln (Killed people who were once citizens of his nation, who saw the bad of the north and Lincoln and peacefully left.)
2nd FDR
3rd Wilson
Link Posted: 4/24/2014 6:51:11 PM EDT
What a dismal list.

It's a toss up between

1)FDR/Lincoln
2)Wilson
3Theodore Rusevelt
4)OBusha
Link Posted: 4/24/2014 6:52:30 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ContrarianIndicator:
What a dismal list.

It's a toss up between

1)FDR/Lincoln
2)Wilson
3Theodore Rusevelt
4)OBusha
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Why is my list dismal? I seemed to have picked up on all the people you think were totalitarian.
Link Posted: 4/24/2014 6:53:14 PM EDT
FDR
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Originally Posted By werepossum:

FDR provoked japan with sanctions so they would attack first and sway the public to let him into the war in europe that he desperately wanted,
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Not really.

I voted FDR, but I should have voted Wilson. I forgot all that other shit he did. FDR was not a good man for the constitution though.
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Originally Posted By WI_Rifleman:


Why is my list dismal? I seemed to have picked up on all the people you think were totalitarian.
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Originally Posted By WI_Rifleman:
Originally Posted By ContrarianIndicator:
What a dismal list.

It's a toss up between

1)FDR/Lincoln
2)Wilson
3Theodore Rusevelt
4)OBusha


Why is my list dismal? I seemed to have picked up on all the people you think were totalitarian.


That's exactly why it's dismal

But I think the list is lacking LBJ, Nixon and a few other garbage presidents.

Although, they aren't quite as bad as FDR or Wilson.
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Originally Posted By sae4:
I would say its a tie between Dictator FDR and Thug Wilsonhttp://goo.gl/9u363r
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I can't agree more
Link Posted: 4/24/2014 6:56:45 PM EDT
FDR by a long shot
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Originally Posted By werepossum:
abraham lincoln was a dictator who killed his own people

FDR provoked japan with sanctions so they would attack first and sway the public to let him into the war in europe that he desperately wanted, not to mention passed the NFA, confiscated gold, sedition acts, etc
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FDR did a plethora of fascistic things, and for the purposes of this poll I'd put him in a tie with Wilson; but US sanctions on Japan had more to do with Japan's actions in China and the public outrage over them than FDR trying to goad the Japanese into attacking us so he could go to war. The guy was a full blown schmuck, but he didn't make Japan attack us by putting onerous and unjust sanctions on them while they were peacefully minding their own business and having haiku contests.
Link Posted: 4/24/2014 7:04:12 PM EDT
Wilson, hands down.
Link Posted: 4/24/2014 7:05:06 PM EDT
Those of you who didn't answer Lincolnn have been successfully brainwashed by the public schools.

He shut down newspapers, killed Americans, set federal power in concrete, and sent Sherman on a war crimes spree.

Fuck Lincoln.
Link Posted: 4/24/2014 7:05:46 PM EDT

What about the Peanut guy?

Fucking Carter was a Douchebag Commie.
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What about the Peanut guy?

Fucking Carter was a Douchebag Commie.
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Inept, and he did expand certain wings of the .gov, but nothing that hadn't already been done by those before him.
Link Posted: 4/24/2014 7:20:46 PM EDT
Fail no Obama x 2
Link Posted: 4/24/2014 7:24:37 PM EDT
If not Obama, then FDR
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Originally Posted By WISCONSIN13:
Those of you who didn't answer Lincolnn have been successfully brainwashed by the public schools.

He shut down newspapers, killed Americans, set federal power in concrete, and sent Sherman on a war crimes spree.

Fuck Lincoln.
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Wild guess, lives in the South
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Originally Posted By WISCONSIN13:
Those of you who didn't answer Lincolnn have been successfully brainwashed by the public schools.

He shut down newspapers, killed Americans, set federal power in concrete, and sent Sherman on a war crimes spree.

Fuck Lincoln.
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Link Posted: 4/24/2014 7:33:38 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By WISCONSIN13:
Those of you who didn't answer Lincolnn have been successfully brainwashed by the public schools.

He shut down newspapers, killed Americans, set federal power in concrete, and sent Sherman on a war crimes spree.

Fuck Lincoln.
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Get over it. The Yankees kicked your asses.

Seriously, FDR was the worst. Then Wilson.

Bush and Obama ain't got shit on those tyrants.
Link Posted: 4/24/2014 7:35:50 PM EDT
Lincoln.
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Originally Posted By cavedog:
Wilson. He was a full blown jack booted thug.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeff-taylor/wilson-the-worst_b_4259999.html (link left cold because it's the fucking Huff Post).
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interesting quote from the article, fitting our present time:
"When presidents seemingly come out of nowhere, with little experience and no big accomplishments, something is afoot. There are powerful men behind the scenes who discreetly sponsor the fresh-faced dark horse who will embody more of the same while promising change."

hmmm...
Link Posted: 4/24/2014 7:37:40 PM EDT
Andrew Jackson. And it's not even close.
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Originally Posted By WISCONSIN13:
Those of you who didn't answer Lincolnn have been successfully brainwashed by the public schools.

He shut down newspapers, killed Americans, set federal power in concrete, and sent Sherman on a war crimes spree.

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In other words, he did pretty much the same things that Jeff Davis did. Except for the "fighting a war to keep 1 million slaves in chains" part.
Link Posted: 4/24/2014 7:41:37 PM EDT
Lincoln suspended Habeas Corpus, tried US citizens living in the Union who were critical of his Civil War policies in front of Military Tribunals.
News paper Editors who opposed Lincoln were frequently thrown in prison without trial, charges.
Lincoln's personal secretary ordered a secret arrest of US Supreme Court Justice Roger Taney see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taney_Arrest_Warrant

for suspension of Habeas Corpus see: http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/president-lincoln-suspends-the-writ-of-habeas-corpus-during-the-civil-war

Lincoln's Executive Order for arresting Journalists and Newspaper Editors see: http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=70018

Lincoln even spent money without congressional approval

Lincoln was far worse than FDR
Link Posted: 4/24/2014 7:44:17 PM EDT
As much as I hate Roosevelt and loathe Lincoln, Wilson's the top shitbag.
Link Posted: 4/24/2014 7:50:58 PM EDT
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Some of you need to put away the hatred for Lincoln.....

FDR's tyrannical accomplishments include:
* seizing gold from private citizens
* signing the NFA
* Social Security
* National Labor Relations Act
* marrying the original Femi-nazi

WW's include:
* Prohibition
* Sedition Act criminalizing criticism of WWI
* Selective Service Act
* Direct election of Senators
****** THE WORST FUCKING CRIME OF THEM ALL - CREATION OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE **********


You guys are delusional if you think Lincoln fucked over this country.

We are STILL, to this day, paying for the acts of FDR and WW. Their tyrannical regimes have lead to the downfall of the United States.


What lasting damage did Lincoln do that we're still paying for? (Please don't say freeing the slaves )

And yes, WW and FDR are both worse than Obama.
Link Posted: 4/24/2014 7:55:43 PM EDT
*cough* Roosevelt, since Lincoln pre-dates fascism.

Wilson's kind of on the line there (with regards to time).
Link Posted: 4/24/2014 7:55:44 PM EDT
What did Theodore Roosevelt do wrong?
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WW's include:
* Prohibition
* Sedition Act criminalizing criticism of WWI
* Selective Service Act
* Direct election of Senators
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You mentioned Federal Reserve, but let's spell it out for people as INCOME TAX ;)
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Sidestepping the three branches of government to do his own thing?
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Sidestepping the three branches of government to do his own thing?
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Originally Posted By Mindfreak:
What did Theodore Roosevelt do wrong?

Sidestepping the three branches of government to do his own thing?


Ah, was unaware. Thanks
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His biggest thing was trust busting

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Originally Posted By Shazbat:

Sidestepping the three branches of government to do his own thing?
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Originally Posted By Shazbat:
Originally Posted By Mindfreak:
What did Theodore Roosevelt do wrong?

Sidestepping the three branches of government to do his own thing?


His cousin has him beat by a mile.
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interesting quote from the article, fitting our present time:
"When presidents seemingly come out of nowhere, with little experience and no big accomplishments, something is afoot. There are powerful men behind the scenes who discreetly sponsor the fresh-faced dark horse who will embody more of the same while promising change."

hmmm...
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Originally Posted By generalissimo:
Originally Posted By cavedog:
Wilson. He was a full blown jack booted thug.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeff-taylor/wilson-the-worst_b_4259999.html (link left cold because it's the fucking Huff Post).



interesting quote from the article, fitting our present time:
"When presidents seemingly come out of nowhere, with little experience and no big accomplishments, something is afoot. There are powerful men behind the scenes who discreetly sponsor the fresh-faced dark horse who will embody more of the same while promising change."

hmmm...

Yeah, I had the same thought. Seems that things don't really change, no matter how hard people hope.
Link Posted: 4/24/2014 8:07:20 PM EDT
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Andrew Jackson. And it's not even close.
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Jackson is a hero to some here in Florida. I think I understand where you are coming from, but the invasion of another country and the execution of another citizens pales in comparison to the establishment of the Federal Reserve Act.
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This needs to be edited for multiple answers both FDR and Wilson are the correct choices. Obama will be the worst for this century, i seriously can't imagine anyone being any worse, from his abuses of power, to ignoring laws, to just outright corruption, and if we try to impeach you know he will just pull the race card like the bitch dick holder does.

Obama makes Nixon look like a choir boy.
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His cousin has him beat by a mile.
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Originally Posted By MotorMouth:
Originally Posted By Shazbat:
Originally Posted By Mindfreak:
What did Theodore Roosevelt do wrong?

Sidestepping the three branches of government to do his own thing?


His cousin has him beat by a mile.

Yes, quite.
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