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Posted: 10/10/2007 7:39:33 AM EST
I want power in a small package for CCW and I prefer single action autos because I learned and competed with them. I think I'll be more accurate with that type.
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 7:40:58 AM EST
Look for a used Star or Llama. Also check out Taurus.
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 7:42:22 AM EST
Kimber makes a really small 1911.
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 7:44:21 AM EST
Kimber and Springfield make some tiny little 1911's now, smaller than an Colt Officer size.

Glock makes the G36, a single stack .45. A glock is a hybrid trigger, so it's better than a true DA but not as nice as a true SA; but for a defensive firearm I think it is optimal.

Link Posted: 10/10/2007 7:45:26 AM EST
IM sent
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 7:46:22 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/10/2007 7:48:25 AM EST by HardShell]
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 7:49:30 AM EST
Sprignfield makes an awesome little 9mm with a reduced 1911 frame. REALLY pricey though.
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 7:50:18 AM EST
Didn't Colt's make a .380 called a "Pony"?
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 7:50:19 AM EST
Didn't Colt's make a .380 called a "Pony"?
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 7:51:23 AM EST
I just saw an ad for SA's little 9mm 1911 they're coming out with. Dunno about the weight, but that thing looked tiny.
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 7:51:59 AM EST

Originally Posted By trwoprod:
Didn't Colt's make a .380 called a "Pony"?
The Mustang, and I'd like to have one but they're out of my price range. VERY curious to shoot one to see if I like it.
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 7:53:20 AM EST

Originally Posted By Yellowfin:

Originally Posted By trwoprod:
Didn't Colt's make a .380 called a "Pony"?
The Mustang, and I'd like to have one but they're out of my price range. VERY curious to shoot one to see if I like it.


You'll like it.
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 9:54:29 AM EST
James Bond used to carry one of these around. I currently do from time to time.

Up to .380 ACP:

Link Posted: 10/10/2007 11:49:10 AM EST
This is what u need,I carry it everyday

Link Posted: 10/10/2007 11:52:04 AM EST

Originally Posted By rogerdodger:
This is what u need,I carry it everyday

img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/rogerdodger11/163061_large.jpg


Yep, since that's a single action auto.

Link Posted: 10/10/2007 11:53:26 AM EST

Originally Posted By Cypher214:

Originally Posted By rogerdodger:
This is what u need,I carry it everyday

img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/rogerdodger11/163061_large.jpg


Yep, since that's a single action auto.



Link Posted: 10/10/2007 11:53:46 AM EST
Kahr makes the smallest up to .40 that I've seen.
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 11:56:24 AM EST
What ever happened to the Browning BDA .380?
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 11:58:14 AM EST
I actually shot a Mustang and a pony years ago and I was quite impressed with it. For its size it was very easy to handle and even easier to shoot. My wife at the time loved to shoot it too and she has smaller hands. She never complained about recoil and never had any problems using it. IMHO a nice little pistol. I understand that they are a bit tough to come by at a reasonable price these days. Wish I hadnt let her take that one though.
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 11:58:15 AM EST
Glock 36!!!
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 11:59:46 AM EST
I carry a Para-Ordinance Warthog in 9mm. It holds 12+1. It's very nice but kind of pricey and the grip is a little fat (since it's a double stack).
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 12:03:03 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/10/2007 12:06:21 PM EST by GOBLIN1]

Originally Posted By Blackmagic94:
Glock 36!!!


That's a possibility...I'm sure it will be that or the Taurus millinium pro which has a DA/SA action. I thought perhaps the other euro manfr's might have small S/A's, but I couldn't find any.
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 12:04:34 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/10/2007 12:08:33 PM EST by HardShell]
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 12:05:23 PM EST
How about a Makarov?
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 12:08:33 PM EST

Originally Posted By crurifragium:
How about a Makarov?


I'm not too hot on the 9x18.
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 12:11:51 PM EST

Originally Posted By HardShell:

Originally Posted By Bloencustoms:
What ever happened to the Browning BDA .380?


IIRC both it and its Beretta counterparts are OOP.


EDITED: I still can't find the BDA listed anywhere, but the 84/85 Cheetahs are still listed on the Beretta USA website (although not anywhere on their international site ).

And, again, the OP isn't looking for a .380 (not that you didn't know that, necessarily).


I know, it's not about .380, but I remember seeing those little BDA's all over the places about a decade ago, and nowI haven't seen them anywhere. They really were a classy little gun. IIRC they held 13 rounds. The wood grips andall metal construction was nice too. I think Beretta made them for Browning.

I guess there isn't a market fr a large cap .380
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 12:13:07 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/10/2007 12:20:29 PM EST by HoustonHusker]

Originally Posted By C_Sly:
I carry a Para-Ordinance Warthog in 9mm. It holds 12+1. It's very nice but kind of pricey and the grip is a little fat (since it's a double stack).


I carry the .45 Warthog everyday and I like the fact I've got 11 rds in it.

HH
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 12:14:08 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/10/2007 12:15:04 PM EST by Chris_1522]
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 12:19:55 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/10/2007 12:23:35 PM EST by IDK]

Originally Posted By rogerdodger:
This is what u need,I carry it everyday

img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/rogerdodger11/163061_large.jpg


How many .357's do you put throught per range session? I have one of those and with full-power loads it is snappy; kind of holding a firecracker in my hand. I manage about 10 shots, just to convince myself I could actually fire the thing. My .44 mountain gun seems like a pussycat after that little monster.

For added fun, I let my friends try it with some old Pro-Load 180gr rounds... I figure the 2 boxes I have are a lifetime supply.
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 12:25:37 PM EST

Originally Posted By GOBLIN1:

Originally Posted By crurifragium:
How about a Makarov?


I'm not too hot on the 9x18.



But .380 is fine by you?



Link Posted: 10/10/2007 12:30:01 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/10/2007 12:30:33 PM EST by Bob1984]

Originally Posted By xinflt:

Originally Posted By GOBLIN1:

Originally Posted By crurifragium:
How about a Makarov?


I'm not too hot on the 9x18.



But .380 is fine by you?





Hell, 9x18 Mak is slightly superior to the .380 in ballistics. It's typically loaded hotter. Though I understand that .380 is much more common in the US, there's enough 9mm Mak floating around that it is a viable option.

Hornady makes a decent JHP in 9mm Mak.

www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot26_3.htm
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 12:30:28 PM EST

Originally Posted By GOBLIN1:

Originally Posted By Blackmagic94:
Glock 36!!!


That's a possibility...I'm sure it will be that or the Taurus millinium pro which has a DA/SA action. I thought perhaps the other euro manfr's might have small S/A's, but I couldn't find any.


The Taurus Millenium Pro is actually a single action unless you get a misfire and then it gives you a double action pull to give you another crack at the primer. I personally would just do a failure drill and dump that round.

I like my PT745, but I just shipped it back to Taurus since it was jamming when loading from a full magazine and using the slide release. It wouldn't do it if you slingshot the slide, but I need it to be 100% reliable.

It is much more ergonomic to me than the Glock 36. If Taurus can't get it to work right, I may get a Glock 36 and have a grip reduction done on it.

The PT745 shoots great. No jams when firing and it is a breeze to keep them center mass at 25 yards.
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 12:35:52 PM EST
The Colt New Agent is pretty small. I have one and no problems so far.
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 12:37:31 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/10/2007 12:38:01 PM EST by Archangel1177]
One of the guys that I used to work with used to carry a cz-52. He seemed to like it. I didnt see anyone mention it and there is probably a good reason, but i thought that I would toss that one out there.
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 12:39:38 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/10/2007 12:42:44 PM EST by HardShell]
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 12:40:06 PM EST
the warthog is slightly smaller than a glock 30, especially in the shape of the rear of the slide, where the warthog shaves 1/2 inch over the glock. Add the single action vs dao, and all you have to get over is the face that the warthog is twice the price . I've heard a number of compaints about reliability in the glock 36's.. esp. in relation to magazine extensions.
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 12:43:30 PM EST

Originally Posted By crurifragium:
How about a Makarov?


For a carry weapon?



Please, when it comes to your life, don't buy the absolute cheapest POS you can find!
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 12:45:04 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/10/2007 12:46:01 PM EST by xinflt]

Originally Posted By HardShell:

Originally Posted By xinflt:

Originally Posted By GOBLIN1:

Originally Posted By crurifragium:
How about a Makarov?


I'm not too hot on the 9x18.



But .380 is fine by you?



i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/HardShell/RWB%20-%20Jokes%20and%20Icons/RIFLogo.jpg

Per the OP, he's looking for a compact 9mmP or .45ACP, not a .380.


i stand corrected
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 12:46:38 PM EST

Originally Posted By Mxpatriot51:

Originally Posted By crurifragium:
How about a Makarov?


For a carry weapon?



Please, when it comes to your life, don't buy the absolute cheapest POS you can find!


What are you talking about?
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 12:47:07 PM EST
Colt Combat Commander in 45, or FN FNP9 SAO in 9mm.
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 12:47:23 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 12:50:34 PM EST
CZ makes a very nice, small 9mm. It is a compact Browning Highpower variant. It is not SA only though. Also it is small, not tiny.
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 12:54:51 PM EST
Springfield EMP?
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 12:59:40 PM EST

Originally Posted By Bloencustoms:
What ever happened to the Browning BDA .380?
I have one.

Great Piece!
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 1:02:25 PM EST
I looked at that review of the Springfield EMP. MIKEY WANTS!!! I'm going to keep that pistol in mind when I have the funds to afford another carry piece (for now, I have a P7).

I'll probably also end up picking up a PPK/s for something a little more concealable.

The Colt Mustang is a nice little gun. I had one for a while. It's easy to shoot, and since it is actually a locked breech design, it eats up recoil very well. I wish there were more small locked breech .380s out there. (I firmly believe that a .380 I'll will actually carry is immensely better than the .45 Whizbang I leave at home)

I also have a couple Star BM pistols. They are very neat pistols, basically a scaled down 1911 in 9mm. Sadly, Star is out of business. They'd make good carry guns, but they are HEAVY, since they are ALL STEEL. If I could find a great condition BKM (BM with an alloy frame), I'd consider getting it for carry, but only after thorough range testing.

Link Posted: 10/10/2007 1:02:31 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/10/2007 1:03:54 PM EST by 1911greg]
I just dont see a need for a carry pistol thats any smaller than a Colt Officers model...

unless its a BUG?
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 1:06:46 PM EST

Originally Posted By 1911greg:
I just dont see a need for a carry pistol thats any smaller than a Colt Officers model...

unless its a BUG?


Some of us skinny people like smaller pistols... they're easier to conceal when we don't have a lot of overhang, or don't want to look stupid wearing really baggy clothes.
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 1:11:07 PM EST

Originally Posted By HoustonHusker:

Originally Posted By C_Sly:
I carry a Para-Ordinance Warthog in 9mm. It holds 12+1. It's very nice but kind of pricey and the grip is a little fat (since it's a double stack).


I carry the .45 Warthog everyday and I like the fact I've got 11 rds in it.

HH
.I also have a Para Ordnance , Mine is the Lite Hawg in .45 I think they make a single stack version called a SlimHawg..........not sure if it is 9mm or .45 ACP....I really like my Nite Hawg.......I got rid of my Glock 30 and purchased the Para..............
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 1:15:40 PM EST

Originally Posted By 1911greg:
I just dont see a need for a carry pistol thats any smaller than a Colt Officers model...

unless its a BUG?


Link Posted: 10/10/2007 1:18:35 PM EST

Originally Posted By mousehunter:
CZ makes a very nice, small 9mm. It is a compact Browning Highpower variant. It is not SA only though. Also it is small, not tiny.


The CZ looks good. Dealers are rare around here. Only 1 listed in Dallas. MSRP is a little steep $525. The Taurus is a little cheaper. I might go for that!
Link Posted: 10/10/2007 1:20:06 PM EST
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