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Posted: 8/9/2006 6:08:11 AM EDT
www.hideawayknife.com/main.php

I've been looking at them for the past few weeks and I was thinking of getting one. The size I need has to be made because I'm not going to spend $1,000 on a knife that they have in my size made by Strider. What I'd like to know is how long did it take to get yours?

Also I'm having a hard time choosing what one to get. The problem is do I want to spend $159 on a knife that I'm not sure 100% I'll like or get the $69 one and if I like it get the one I like better?


$69 one


Both are $159 each I only want one of these but these are the ones I really like


Link Posted: 8/9/2006 6:10:02 AM EDT
[#1]
I read an article on these in a recent gun rag.  I am interested in them also.  Please post a review when you get one.
Link Posted: 8/9/2006 6:11:18 AM EDT
[#2]
Jury's still out for me on them. I saw the article in the SureFire magazine (BTW NICE 'STACHE DORRRRRRK) and thought "that's a great way to cut the hell out of yourself accidentally"

I think they're neat, but not as a piece of tactical jewelry that you can really damage yourself with.
Link Posted: 8/9/2006 7:37:00 AM EDT
[#3]

Quoted:
Jury's still out for me on them. I saw the article in the SureFire magazine (BTW NICE 'STACHE DORRRRRRK) and thought "that's a great way to cut the hell out of yourself accidentally"

I think they're neat, but not as a piece of tactical jewelry that you can really damage yourself with.


I thought the same thing also then I had a guy in my unit who used his all the time when he was on patrol or doing M.O.U.T climbing things and he never got cut with it. He said you do have to be careful with it until you get use to it.
Link Posted: 8/9/2006 7:48:12 AM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Jury's still out for me on them. I saw the article in the SureFire magazine (BTW NICE 'STACHE DORRRRRRK) and thought "that's a great way to cut the hell out of yourself accidentally"

I think they're neat, but not as a piece of tactical jewelry that you can really damage yourself with.


I thought the same thing also then I had a guy in my unit who used his all the time when he was on patrol or doing M.O.U.T climbing things and he never got cut with it. He said you do have to be careful with it until you get use to it.


Interesting. I just had a differing opinion than the article writer ... He seemed to think they were something you could just wear all the time. I'd see them more as really cool backup knives you could wear in 2 or 3 locations on your body simultaneously.
Link Posted: 8/9/2006 7:59:13 AM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
Interesting. I just had a differing opinion than the article writer ... He seemed to think they were something you could just wear all the time. I'd see them more as really cool backup knives you could wear in 2 or 3 locations on your body simultaneously.


I think its more if a back up also! Your right it does not look like something you can wear on your hand all day long doing diffrent task and not cut yourself or something else I will agree with you on that.
Link Posted: 8/9/2006 8:08:30 AM EDT
[#6]
I got my Utility HAK about a year ago.  Took less than a month to receive it after I ordered.  I keep it attached to the shoulder strap on my hiking gear.  Very simple and well-made tool.
Link Posted: 8/9/2006 8:10:31 AM EDT
[#7]
Shown on the Bottom

Excellent Backup Knife

Link Posted: 8/9/2006 8:14:00 AM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
Jury's still out for me on them. I saw the article in the SureFire magazine (BTW NICE 'STACHE DORRRRRRK) and thought "that's a great way to cut the hell out of yourself accidentally"

I think they're neat, but not as a piece of tactical jewelry that you can really damage yourself with.


That is the magazine.  The dude writing the article (don't remember his name) sor of creeped me out.  I would like to have one to maybe carry in my watch pocket.  I did wonder about the way he was handling it in some of the pics.
Link Posted: 8/9/2006 8:28:57 AM EDT
[#9]
I just got my Utility HAK the other day. My size was in stock, but it took about two weeks to get it in hand.

It is quickly becoming my favorite knife. For those wondering, it is not meant to be worn as a ring or a piece of tactical jewelry all day long. It is meant as self defense knife to be used in a certain style of martial arts. It also works very well for all the chores you would normally use your everyday folder for.

For a quick review, the quality is great. The blade is very sharp. The Kydex sheath is well formed and high quality. It comes with a neck chain should you decide that to be your method of carry (that's how I've been wearing mine). It also comes with diferent colors of paracord so you can wrap the handle (blue, black, burgandy, grey and O.D. Green). It also comes with a couple of zip ties should you need to attach it to your gear. There are many other methods of carry available from the HAK site (clips, belt adapter, etc.).

Look, I'll be the first to admit, this knife may not be for everyone. That said, I love it. I mean where else can you get a custom knife made just for you hand by an awesome custom maker for $69? And if you want it special, you can choose your maker and get super duper titanium heat treated pieces of sharpened art. Who could ask for more?

Long story short, this is a well thought out, well designed piece of gear invented by a lady who saw a need and somehow miraculously got a bunch of awesome custom knife makers to ptich in and make a super idea a reality.

Check it...
The website is kind of hard to navigate, but you'll forget all about that when you get your sweet new knife (if you don't have to wait too long, that is.).

Link Posted: 8/9/2006 8:39:01 AM EDT
[#10]
You guys are talking about how much you love them makes me glad i'm going to get one now just to pick. I don't know if i should just go with the $69 one and see how I like it or just go all out and get the $159.
Link Posted: 8/9/2006 8:45:35 AM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:
You guys are talking about how much you love them makes me glad i'm going to get one now just to pick. I don't know if i should just go with the $69 one and see how I like it or just go all out and get the $159.


Get either one. Chances are, if you're like me, you'll end up with more than one anyway so it won't really matter which one you get first.

Oh, and a bit of hint to anyone planning on getting one. READ THE INSTRUCTIONS ON HOW TO MEASURE YOUR SIZE AND THEN MEASURE CAREFULLY AND THEN MEASURE AGAIN. If you measure as instructed, the fit will be perfect.
Link Posted: 8/9/2006 9:22:53 AM EDT
[#12]

Originally Posted By terdferguson

Get either one. Chances are, if you're like me, you'll end up with more than one anyway so it won't really matter which one you get first.

Oh, and a bit of hint to anyone planning on getting one. READ THE INSTRUCTIONS ON HOW TO MEASURE YOUR SIZE AND THEN MEASURE CAREFULLY AND THEN MEASURE AGAIN. If you measure as instructed, the fit will be perfect.


When you measured your fingers did you pull the paper tight or just let it be? I keep coming up with 4.35 to 4.45 I also want to make sure I can do the 550 cord wrap on it.
Link Posted: 8/9/2006 9:28:12 AM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:
Jury's still out for me on them. I saw the article in the SureFire magazine (BTW NICE 'STACHE DORRRRRRK) and thought "that's a great way to cut the hell out of yourself accidentally"

I think they're neat, but not as a piece of tactical jewelry that you can really damage yourself with.


I'm sorry, but how the hell can you cut yourself with it? It's much like a karambit, and I have never cut myself on mine.
Link Posted: 8/9/2006 9:37:18 AM EDT
[#14]
They should be banned for the children.
Link Posted: 8/9/2006 9:47:03 AM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Jury's still out for me on them. I saw the article in the SureFire magazine (BTW NICE 'STACHE DORRRRRRK) and thought "that's a great way to cut the hell out of yourself accidentally"

I think they're neat, but not as a piece of tactical jewelry that you can really damage yourself with.


I'm sorry, but how the hell can you cut yourself with it? It's much like a karambit, and I have never cut myself on mine.


Try not to be so condescending... geez.

Maybe you just needed to see the pics in the magazine with the article the guy wrote. He was wearing it like tactical jewelry, and suggested you could wear it while doing other activities, like shooting (and other activities that could get you sliced with your fancy-dancy HAK, like reloading with it on your hand).

My take on the use of knives is that you should only resort to knifework if there is no other option. Maybe for slitting throats commando-style but frankly, LEOs and civilians in a SHTF environment prolly aren't going to need that capability.

As I've stated in this thread, I think the little knives are cool... Just in a different capacity.
Link Posted: 8/9/2006 10:29:10 AM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:
They should be banned for the children.


Thats why you need to get one now
Link Posted: 8/9/2006 10:40:48 AM EDT
[#17]
How is it "hideaway?"
Link Posted: 8/9/2006 10:44:11 AM EDT
[#18]

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How is it "hideaway?"


check this out it's only one of the few ways to hide it

www.hideawayknife.com/behindcover.php
Link Posted: 8/9/2006 11:01:57 AM EDT
[#19]
height=8
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Shown on the Bottom

Excellent Backup Knife

home.houston.rr.com/quijanos/DSCF4666.JPG


quijanos

Who makes the third knife down ?
Link Posted: 8/9/2006 11:10:02 AM EDT
[#20]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Shown on the Bottom

Excellent Backup Knife

home.houston.rr.com/quijanos/DSCF4666.JPG


quijanos

Who makes the third knife down ?


It's a Strider SLCC.
Link Posted: 8/9/2006 11:10:14 AM EDT
[#21]
Strider Knives.  Its called the SLCC and run around $300 bucks.  Very sharp and concealable.
Link Posted: 8/9/2006 11:28:44 AM EDT
[#22]
Thanks Overlord
Link Posted: 8/9/2006 11:29:50 AM EDT
[#23]
Thanks quijanos Looks like an very fun knife
Link Posted: 8/9/2006 11:31:57 AM EDT
[#24]

Quoted:
Strider Knives.  Its called the SLCC and run around $300 bucks.  Very sharp and concealable.


They will cost ya for a Strider but you get what you pay for with his knives. I wish I would have bought one of his fix blade's a few years ago. I saw a guy in Iraq abuse the hell out of his just trying to brake it so he could take it back and show Mike Strider that his knife could not hold up. Well he never broke it and when he got back he bought a folder from them and thanked them for making such a great knife
Link Posted: 8/9/2006 11:33:05 AM EDT
[#25]

Quoted:
Try not to be so condescending... geez.


I wasn't being condescending, just wondering how one could do so.



My take on the use of knives is that you should only resort to knifework if there is no other option. Maybe for slitting throats commando-style but frankly, LEOs and civilians in a SHTF environment prolly aren't going to need that capability.


I prefer to agree to disagree. You weapon can malufunction, it could be grabbed, ect... and sometimes cold steel is a life saver.

And, after seeing some karambit take-downs, I want to start seeing if I can get some training with it. I am a firm believer if you know how to use your weaponry, you can be deadly with it. That goes for firearms and knives.
Link Posted: 8/9/2006 11:35:20 AM EDT
[#26]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Strider Knives.  Its called the SLCC and run around $300 bucks.  Very sharp and concealable.


They will cost ya for a Strider but you get what you pay for with his knives.


Honestly, once you get past blade steel and knife construction, honestly, it's all the same (quality wise). I fail to see how a Strider knife made out of the same steel and same construction as another knife is somehow superior. It's basically like AR15 lowers... as long as they are made properly and with the right materials - they are quiet honestly pretty much the same.
Link Posted: 8/9/2006 11:46:35 AM EDT
[#27]

Quoted:
How is it "hideaway?"


Her original design was centered around being able to have an easily accesible knife that was able to be covered/attached to a work badge.
Link Posted: 8/9/2006 11:48:30 AM EDT
[#28]

Quoted:
Honestly, once you get past blade steel and knife construction, honestly, it's all the same (quality wise). I fail to see how a Strider knife made out of the same steel and same construction as another knife is somehow superior. It's basically like AR15 lowers... as long as they are made properly and with the right materials - they are quiet honestly pretty much the same.


I agree 100% But most company don't know how to properly make knives any more they just make quantity not quality. Strider knives are quality made a lot of the time you have to wait for your knife to be made and it may take from 1-3 months to get that done.
Link Posted: 8/9/2006 11:52:06 AM EDT
[#29]
I have owned one and I'll be getting another, albeit a $69 one.  For what I was using it for, cutting open boxes, tape, etc..., I don't see the need to spend more than $69 for such a knife anymore.
Link Posted: 8/9/2006 12:02:13 PM EDT
[#30]
Get one
Link Posted: 8/9/2006 12:10:23 PM EDT
[#31]
Link Posted: 8/9/2006 12:27:59 PM EDT
[#32]
I wonder if you could conceal one under one of those wide leather watch bands?Trashcan
Link Posted: 8/9/2006 12:30:22 PM EDT
[#33]
If you deploy it wrong, you could do serious damage and lose the use of a finger or two.  Yes, I have seen this happen.  Nothing like two cops explaining why they are in the emergency room after fucking around with one of those little toys of the day.


Don't take a knife to a gunfight.  Take a real knife to a knife fight.
Link Posted: 8/9/2006 1:09:03 PM EDT
[#34]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Try not to be so condescending... geez.


I wasn't being condescending, just wondering how one could do so.



My take on the use of knives is that you should only resort to knifework if there is no other option. Maybe for slitting throats commando-style but frankly, LEOs and civilians in a SHTF environment prolly aren't going to need that capability.


I prefer to agree to disagree. You weapon can malufunction, it could be grabbed, ect... and sometimes cold steel is a life saver.

And, after seeing some karambit take-downs, I want to start seeing if I can get some training with it. I am a firm believer if you know how to use your weaponry, you can be deadly with it. That goes for firearms and knives.


Noted. I must have misread your tone.

Agreed on the weapon malfunction etc... but that's the role I think it should be used for ... Not wearing like the guy in the article did.
Link Posted: 8/9/2006 3:19:27 PM EDT
[#35]

Quoted:

Originally Posted By terdferguson

Get either one. Chances are, if you're like me, you'll end up with more than one anyway so it won't really matter which one you get first.

Oh, and a bit of hint to anyone planning on getting one. READ THE INSTRUCTIONS ON HOW TO MEASURE YOUR SIZE AND THEN MEASURE CAREFULLY AND THEN MEASURE AGAIN. If you measure as instructed, the fit will be perfect.


When you measured your fingers did you pull the paper tight or just let it be? I keep coming up with 4.35 to 4.45 I also want to make sure I can do the 550 cord wrap on it.


You don't need to pull it tight, unless you want it to fit tight. If you choose to wrap it, you should probably go with 4.45 just to be safe. I measured mine at 4.25 and with the paracord wrap, it is exactly perfect.

You're only talking about a tenth of an inch difference between the two measurements you got which is not much in the scheme of things. I'm pretty sure the paracord on the two sides will be more than a tenth of an inch.
Link Posted: 8/9/2006 3:22:09 PM EDT
[#36]
I have a Utility HAK and like it a lot.  The sheath system gives a lot of options for how to carry it.

I wouldn't pay a lot extra for one of the "designer" models, as I think the basic one works fine for my purposes.  I bought it as a last-ditch save my ass kind of thing, not as a collector's item.
Link Posted: 8/9/2006 3:30:35 PM EDT
[#37]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Jury's still out for me on them. I saw the article in the SureFire magazine (BTW NICE 'STACHE DORRRRRRK) and thought "that's a great way to cut the hell out of yourself accidentally"

I think they're neat, but not as a piece of tactical jewelry that you can really damage yourself with.


I thought the same thing also then I had a guy in my unit who used his all the time when he was on patrol or doing M.O.U.T climbing things and he never got cut with it. He said you do have to be careful with it until you get use to it.



Is this a third line type of thing?  If you are looking for a good cheap defensive weapon that is fairly low profile I would reccomend something like this:

Its pretty low profile, well made, cheap, and has a 3" law loophole @ 2.94"
Link Posted: 8/9/2006 3:30:51 PM EDT
[#38]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
Jury's still out for me on them. I saw the article in the SureFire magazine (BTW NICE 'STACHE DORRRRRRK) and thought "that's a great way to cut the hell out of yourself accidentally"

I think they're neat, but not as a piece of tactical jewelry that you can really damage yourself with.


I'm sorry, but how the hell can you cut yourself with it? It's much like a karambit, and I have never cut myself on mine.


Try not to be so condescending... geez.

Maybe you just needed to see the pics in the magazine with the article the guy wrote. He was wearing it like tactical jewelry, and suggested you could wear it while doing other activities, like shooting (and other activities that could get you sliced with your fancy-dancy HAK, like reloading with it on your hand).

My take on the use of knives is that you should only resort to knifework if there is no other option. Maybe for slitting throats commando-style but frankly, LEOs and civilians in a SHTF environment prolly aren't going to need that capability.

As I've stated in this thread, I think the little knives are cool... Just in a different capacity.


macman37, here in NC, there are certain places you are not allowed to legally carry a concealed weapon (banks, federal buildings, PLACES THAT SERVE ALCOHOL like restaurants w/bars, places where an admission is charged like sporting events, etc.).

It always makes me feel better having a couple of folders and my Surefire E2D than just being naked, so to speak. If one was to happen into some sort of armed confrontation (like being robbed or whatever) when one is not allowed to legally carry a gun, I'll take my Utility HAK or my CRKT folder and my aforementioned flashlight any day over being empty handed.

In short, knives have their place in a well rounded defense plan. I'll be the first to admit their role for me is somewhat limited, but I won't be without them if I can help it. It's like insurance, which as Chris Rock said should be called "in case shit happens".

One other thing, and I'm not trying to sound condescending here (honestly), but you would have to be an idiot to cut yourself with a HAK. The ergonomics don't easily allow for that to happen. Obviously, getting cut while in the knife fight of your life may produce different results (regardless of the style of knife). And yes, the little knives are indeed cool.
Link Posted: 8/9/2006 3:33:05 PM EDT
[#39]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
Strider Knives.  Its called the SLCC and run around $300 bucks.  Very sharp and concealable.


They will cost ya for a Strider but you get what you pay for with his knives.


Honestly, once you get past blade steel and knife construction, honestly, it's all the same (quality wise). I fail to see how a Strider knife made out of the same steel and same construction as another knife is somehow superior. It's basically like AR15 lowers... as long as they are made properly and with the right materials - they are quiet honestly pretty much the same.


Tell that to the Colt crowd, lol.
Link Posted: 8/9/2006 3:33:15 PM EDT
[#40]
I saw the same article and was thinking about getting one.  I'm curious how someone could cut themselves by pulling it out of the sheath.  If it can be done, I can do it...I'm just trying to avoid a trip to the ER.  

Blake
Link Posted: 8/9/2006 4:59:32 PM EDT
[#41]

Quoted:
I saw the same article and was thinking about getting one.  I'm curious how someone could cut themselves by pulling it out of the sheath.  If it can be done, I can do it...I'm just trying to avoid a trip to the ER.  

Blake


I'm personally more concerned about after it's out of the sheath, but maybe it's unfounded.

I've got the issue here in front of me and the author (Darryl "I sat a diarrheic raccoon on my face but all I got was this horrible looking moustache" Boike) notes that they're for clearing space so he can grab his gun. This use makes total sense to me.

I suppose my concern comes from the knives' utility and reason for existence: The finger loops that make it such a handy knife that is nearly impossible to lose, put the blade at such an angle that I think one could accidentally cut himself.

All that said... I really dig that little curvy Yurko on page 55.
Link Posted: 8/9/2006 5:06:23 PM EDT
[#42]

Quoted:
I saw the same article and was thinking about getting one.  I'm curious how someone could cut themselves by pulling it out of the sheath.  If it can be done, I can do it...I'm just trying to avoid a trip to the ER.  

Blake


When I get mine I'll tell you all about it myself. The good thing is I've got a RN as a wife
Link Posted: 8/9/2006 5:13:22 PM EDT
[#43]
I have one and wear it regularly with the neck sheath.  Mine is the utility version.    I don't ever expect to get into a knife fight, that's what guns are for.  You really don't need anything bigger.

With its small size and the fact that you can wear it around your neck, this is a great knife to have.  I can throw it on and use the pocket I'd normally keep a knife in to carry a gun, which beats any Strider knife any day.
Link Posted: 8/10/2006 3:52:09 AM EDT
[#44]

Quoted:
I have one and wear it regularly with the neck sheath.  Mine is the utility version.    I don't ever expect to get into a knife fight, that's what guns are for.  You really don't need anything bigger.

With its small size and the fact that you can wear it around your neck, this is a great knife to have.  I can throw it on and use the pocket I'd normally keep a knife in to carry a gun, which beats any Strider knife any day.


I'm looking at getting the belt holster for mine. I will not be able to get to the neck one because of what I ware I have my shirt tucked in my pants.
Link Posted: 8/10/2006 3:54:11 AM EDT
[#45]

Quoted:

I suppose my concern comes from the knives' utility and reason for existence: The finger loops that make it such a handy knife that is nearly impossible to lose, put the blade at such an angle that I think one could accidentally cut himself.

All that said... I really dig that little curvy Yurko on page 55.


This knife is not any more inherently dangerous than any other knife. It is not easier to cut yourself with this knife than any folder you may be carrying right now. The angle of the blade actually makes it harder to cut yourself.

I realize the pictures don't suggest this (I thought the same things as you upon first seeing this design), but the ergonomics of it make it nearly impossible unless you were to intentionally try to cut yourself.

Link Posted: 8/10/2006 3:57:30 AM EDT
[#46]
Handled one at a knife forum gathering... didn't seem very comfortable to hold IMHO.

I prefer the Steel Snail made by Munroe Designs. Not exactly the same concept but pretty similar.



ps... there's a whole forum on this site dedicated to knife stuff...
Link Posted: 8/10/2006 4:09:03 AM EDT
[#47]

Quoted:

I'm looking at getting the belt holster for mine. I will not be able to get to the neck one because of what I ware I have my shirt tucked in my pants.


It's very small, and the little kydex holster it has can be attached to pretty much anything.  If you wear it on your belt you won't even notice it's there.

Also, for the poster who said he'd tried one and found it uncomfortable:  The hide away knives are ordered custom based on the sizing of your first two fingers.  If the one you tried was sized for someone else's hand it would have been very uncomfortable.
Link Posted: 8/10/2006 4:11:44 AM EDT
[#48]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I saw the same article and was thinking about getting one.  I'm curious how someone could cut themselves by pulling it out of the sheath.  If it can be done, I can do it...I'm just trying to avoid a trip to the ER.  

Blake


I'm personally more concerned about after it's out of the sheath, but maybe it's unfounded.

I've got the issue here in front of me and the author (Darryl "I sat a diarrheic raccoon on my face but all I got was this horrible looking moustache" Boike) notes that they're for clearing space so he can grab his gun. This use makes total sense to me.

I suppose my concern comes from the knives' utility and reason for existence: The finger loops that make it such a handy knife that is nearly impossible to lose, put the blade at such an angle that I think one could accidentally cut himself.

All that said... I really dig that little curvy Yurko on page 55.


Yeah, I like the Yurkos also.  It does look like a wicked little velociraptor claw.  Maybe the sheer fact that I'm wondering how I could cut myself should be a warning flag for me NOT to get one...I'll probably get one anyway.  See you guys in the ER.  

Blake
Link Posted: 8/10/2006 4:51:48 AM EDT
[#49]

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It's very small, and the little kydex holster it has can be attached to pretty much anything.  If you wear it on your belt you won't even notice it's there.


Thats what I want! Something that I don't know its there and no one else knows it there.
Link Posted: 8/10/2006 6:50:27 AM EDT
[#50]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
I saw the same article and was thinking about getting one.  I'm curious how someone could cut themselves by pulling it out of the sheath.  If it can be done, I can do it...I'm just trying to avoid a trip to the ER.  

Blake


I'm personally more concerned about after it's out of the sheath, but maybe it's unfounded.

I've got the issue here in front of me and the author (Darryl "I sat a diarrheic raccoon on my face but all I got was this horrible looking moustache" Boike) notes that they're for clearing space so he can grab his gun. This use makes total sense to me.

I suppose my concern comes from the knives' utility and reason for existence: The finger loops that make it such a handy knife that is nearly impossible to lose, put the blade at such an angle that I think one could accidentally cut himself.

All that said... I really dig that little curvy Yurko on page 55.


Yeah, I like the Yurkos also.  It does look like a wicked little velociraptor claw.  Maybe the sheer fact that I'm wondering how I could cut myself should be a warning flag for me NOT to get one...I'll probably get one anyway.  See you guys in the ER.  

Blake


It is my belief and personal experience that if you don't at least nick yourself with a new blade, you're not practicing opening it enough... <---- no stitches from practicing yet but have sliced myself pretty good before!
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