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Posted: 12/7/2003 7:33:17 PM EDT
I have been thinking about getting a Mosin-Nagant. Excellent condition M91/30, M38, or M44s are going for around $70. SOG has M44s for $39.

Who all has one and what do you think of it? What are your opinions on the different models? What should I look for? Opinions on where to buy.
Link Posted: 12/7/2003 7:35:20 PM EDT
You will only get them for that price if you have a C&R. You will at least pay a transfer fee. The going price at shows are about $150. That said I have a 91/30 for sale for $85 plus shipping.
Link Posted: 12/7/2003 7:37:57 PM EDT
I've got an M44. Everyone that has shot it hands it back with a big shit eating grin on their face. Recoil is stout (to say the least) and the muzzle flash at night gives them the name "flame thrower" for good reason. Loud azzed guns too. I've had people come from the other side of the range asking "What the hell are you shooting?" Cheap thrill at the range and lots of fun to boot. [img]http://flymeaway.net/images/gman_m44_3.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 12/7/2003 7:38:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/7/2003 7:39:30 PM EDT by sherrick13]
Sorry I didn't answer all your questions. I have just about one of every kind from every country. They are a lot of fun to shoot. The carbines kick very hard. If you are only going to get one I suggest a Finnish M39. The Finns took a Ruskie reciever and put their own stuff on it. Much better sights, stock, barrel and trigger. Much more accurate. The ammo is also very cheap right now. However a warning, once you buy one you will not stop there.
Link Posted: 12/7/2003 7:38:37 PM EDT
A powerful,accurate,fun, nostalgic piece of history with readily available ammo for under $100? Nah! I'd rather buy some beer! [;)]
Link Posted: 12/7/2003 7:39:47 PM EDT
My dad had one, and it is an excellent rifle if you like that kind of gun. Good value for the $$. Just read your sig line. DON'T BUY ANY MORE GUNS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Link Posted: 12/7/2003 7:40:57 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/7/2003 9:30:18 PM EDT
My friend whom owns a pawn shop had several russian m-44 and was asking 89.00 per rifle! I say hey bubba I see where they are being sold to you for much less(you can say things like this to people that you have spent a couple of thousand that year at) ! He says if only you knew how much time was takin in cleaning all that cosmoline out of this crap! So my son-in-law says ask him how much for the rifles just as they are? Well he says 50.00 for one ninety for both! Well i say both! Thats 45.00 apiece! But damn what a greasy job! So I would say depending on how you can obtain it The 38 ususally is without bayonet,and the 44 is always with one! I can take my spanish modestly engraved 3& 1/2 mag 10 guage and the recoil is just about the same as the M-38 or M-44 Nagant! Which is good right? Bob [:D]
Link Posted: 12/7/2003 9:37:40 PM EDT
I have a 91/30 and M-44 carbine(both Russian)and I love them both.Good accurate rifles cheap.What more can you ask for?
Link Posted: 12/7/2003 9:46:16 PM EDT
Originally Posted By MAC-DADDY: I have a 91/30 and M-44 carbine(both Russian)and I love them both.Good accurate rifles cheap.What more can you ask for?
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I have that same combination. The real question is why not have one? Or two?
Link Posted: 12/7/2003 10:07:20 PM EDT
Great robust rifles, with lots of history. Also, consider an M39 Finnish Nagant - picked myself up a SAKO - real sweet shooters - the Finns tweaked these rifles to be top notch.
Link Posted: 12/7/2003 10:17:31 PM EDT
I have the Russian M44, it doesnt kick any more than a Mauser 98K once you get use to it. I always prefered the shorter handier carbine sized Mosin Nagants. Mosin Nagants are priced so low, they are a real bargain and a nice piece of history.
Link Posted: 12/7/2003 10:20:32 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Ratters:
Originally Posted By MAC-DADDY: I have a 91/30 and M-44 carbine(both Russian)and I love them both.Good accurate rifles cheap.What more can you ask for?
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I have that same combination. The real question is why not have one? Or two?
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Self-discipline is a motherf*cker.lol
Link Posted: 12/7/2003 10:45:30 PM EDT
SOG seems to have the best prices right now. I’m desperately trying to talk myself out of getting one of their M38’s just because the price is so good. While the recoil is stiff out of the carbine, it isn’t unbearable. However, I mount the buttplate high on my shoulder and the pointy toe really digs a hole in my shoulder! Also, while they’re certainly a blast to shoot, I have to admit they have the stiffest action I’ve ever seen. And the safety is just about unusable!
Link Posted: 12/7/2003 10:59:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/7/2003 11:00:12 PM EDT by chaos4570]
I have a M44....FLAMETHROWER.(Blinds you a bit when firing at night) Shoots about 6 inches High and 6 inches to the left at 100 yards. Groups as well as I can hold the weapon. I think it's on of the best values in a rifle out there at this time.
Link Posted: 12/8/2003 1:48:10 AM EDT
Pros: Cheap Cheap to shoot Rugged Simple Fun Cons: Sometimes inaccurate (lots were counterbored) Clunky action Crappy trigger Limited sights Can be really twitchy with ammo Great pieces of history, but never designed to be tack drivers. Rugged and made to last, they are great combat rifles and should be owned by everyone at least once! :D
Link Posted: 12/8/2003 3:37:10 AM EDT
I ordered 2 from SOG and they looked like they had been dragged behind a tank for 100 miles. I sent'em both back and bought a M38 from Lois at centerfire. Be careful with SOG, the M38's were listed as VG-G and they showed up as VB-B
Link Posted: 12/8/2003 4:58:40 AM EDT
Bought a Polish M44 last year. Just received a Russian 91/30 dated 1942 and a Russian M38 dated 1941 from AIM. The 91/30 was VG to Excellent and the M38 looked brand new. These were random pick rifles. Mosins are awesome rifles.
Link Posted: 12/8/2003 5:04:05 AM EDT
I've got two Russian m44's and just ordered two 91-30's. Should be here this week. I've ordered one of the $39 M44's. It had a very battered stock and missing much of the finish. It was fun fixing it up though. I would get an M44 in excellent condition. It's worth the price for what you get.
Link Posted: 12/8/2003 5:22:55 AM EDT
Yes you should, my M91/30 is the cats ass
Link Posted: 12/8/2003 5:38:12 AM EDT
Like most military rifles, "designed by geniuses, to be run by idiots"- drunken, unwashed, peasant ones, that is [:D].. Get 'em all- they're fun guns! I love my m91/30. Before you know it, you'll be singing the Soviet national anthem and quoting Lenin[img]http://www.newgenevacenter.org/portrait/lennon.jpg[/img] and Marx [img]http://home.att.net/~doctordialtone/grauchomarx.jpg[/img]....[%|] Cleaning cosmo is easy with lots of brake cleaner- the stuff just comes off like melting ice.
Link Posted: 12/8/2003 6:05:52 AM EDT
I find my mosin well worth the money.
Link Posted: 12/8/2003 6:09:46 AM EDT
I have a Russian 1943 Mosin 38 and it's a great condition from FAC in Fridley, MN. Less than a hundred bucks and love it. The only problem is Wolf sticks after firing so I shoot only surplus.
Link Posted: 12/8/2003 7:04:41 AM EDT
Link Posted: 12/8/2003 7:15:26 AM EDT
Yes! Heck yeah..bought 2 more M-44's at the gunshow this past weekend. The commy guns are just plain fun to shoot. The Mauser 8mm's are head turning to say the least...the whole range will come over to see whats up.
Link Posted: 12/8/2003 7:40:20 AM EDT
Get your MN from Aztec Guns. great folks to deal with, nice guns at all price points. Already cleaned, complete with accessories, even better prices if you buy more than one, and you'll need an M91, M91/30, M38, and M44, just so you can say you have one of each! [;)] http://www.aztecguns.com/
Link Posted: 12/8/2003 7:45:06 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/8/2003 7:45:38 AM EDT by DriftPunch]
Originally Posted By chaos4570: Shoots about 6 inches High and 6 inches to the left at 100 yards. Groups as well as I can hold the weapon.
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If you haven't already done this, the solution to your problem is to shoot with the bayonet extended. The measurements you state sound like the typical impact vs aiming point difference on a properly sighted in gun shot without the bayonet extended. The sights were set up intending for the rifle to be used with the bayonet out. Very few Mosins are in excellent shape. The exceptions are the unissued Intrac import Polish M44s, and any rearsenaled ones. Guns with damage/wear/neglect are common. Do not buy one without seeing it first. Some see a personality in a beat up rifle, but I don't, and want one as perfect as possible. Always clean with methods appropriate for corrosive ammo.
Link Posted: 12/8/2003 7:46:02 AM EDT
I have a bunch of M-N's. I have used most of the above listed distributors with my C&R. WELL worth the $30 investment for 3 years. The first thing to do when you bring home any M-N is to get yourself a tie on or slip on butt pad, and use it every time you go out with your M-N. They kick like mules and are no fun to shoot if it hurts when you do! Accurate as heck too!
Link Posted: 12/8/2003 9:13:57 AM EDT
Originally Posted By DavidC: and you'll need an M91, M91/30, M38, and M44, just so you can say you have one of each! [;)]
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This is what I was afraid of! I haven't seen any 1891/10s for sell. Anyone have one of those?
Link Posted: 12/8/2003 12:14:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/8/2003 12:16:00 PM EDT by Lumpy223]
I have to second the recommendation for Aztec. They seem to have great condition guns at good prices. The customer service is excellent.
Link Posted: 12/8/2003 12:17:27 PM EDT
Good, I had Aztec saved as a possible place to order from.
Link Posted: 12/8/2003 3:47:49 PM EDT
Lots of Fun and Cheap to shoot. I bought my at: [url=]http://www.floridaammotraders.com/[/url] M44 $70 still new in the Mummy Wrap.
Link Posted: 12/8/2003 4:21:50 PM EDT
Originally Posted By davidenorth: I have a Russian 1943 Mosin 38 and it's a great condition from FAC in Fridley, MN. Less than a hundred bucks and love it. The only problem is Wolf sticks after firing so I shoot only surplus.
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Another 1943 dated M38 Mosin here.....though unfortunately mine had been attacked by 'bubba' before I got it [rolleyes][>(][stick]. No handguard, forearm wood roughly sawed off, etc . Someday I'll find a replacement military stock & restore her to her proper fascist killing/defending the Motherland glory. M38 Mosins are abusive enuff, try one that has been lightened even more...[BD]
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