

Posted: 8/23/2017 1:57:01 PM EST
If the Republican Party is the mainstream right, who is the alternative right?
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I am not sure what it represents, but it sounds like something I would join.
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OP is baiting you. Notice how he conveniently left out the KKK, Aryan Nation, Sovereignist, anarchists, and the other assorted nut balls? What a puke poll.
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Anyone that the leftists and GOP establishment don't like is "Alt Right".
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None; the alt-right is an apparition created by the MSM and leftists to demonize all opposition. Soon all opposition will be racist, homophobe etc.
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I still don't know who they're talking about when they say alt-right and white nationalist. These terms seem to have sprung up out of nowhere when Trump won the election.
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Sitting around debating how people label themselves is fucking retarded.
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I still don't know who they're talking about when they say alt-right ... View Quote |
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isnt it a slander term for all the real right leaning people?
an attempt to discredit, disparage, villainize.. or paint as fringe groups |
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Sitting around debating how people label themselves is fucking retarded. View Quote |
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It's just the current label that the left/media is using to dehumanize conservatives. During the Dubya years it was "neocon".
Media/left would cover Trump events full of people who were obviously middle class working folk with not a radical bone in their body, but would use denigrating terms like "alt right" and "white nationalist". These events were implied to be dangerous to civilization. At the same time, the rioters that disrupted every event were described as "peaceful protesters". It's all propaganda. |
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None. Each group is their own group. PERIOD. Each group would show up on a political compass in different areas.
https://www.politicalcompass.org/ |
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The Charlottesville Statement
August 11, 20171. Race: Race is real. Race matters. Race is the foundation of identity. “White” is shorthand for a worldwide constellation of peoples, each of which is derived from the Indo-European race, often called Aryan. “European” refers to a core stock—Celtic, Germanic, Hellenic, Latin, Nordic, and Slavic—from which related cultures and a shared civilization sprang. 2. Jews: Jews are an ethno-religious people distinct from Europeans. At various times, they have existed within European societies, without being of them. The preservation of their identity as Jews was and is contingent on resistance to assimilation, sometimes expressed as hostility towards their hosts. “Judeo-Christian values” might be a quaint political slogan, but it is a distortion of the historical and metaphysical reality of both Jews and Europeans. 3. The Ethno-State: Nations must secure their existence and uniqueness and promote their own development and flourishing. The state is an existential entity, and, at its best, a physical manifestation of a people’s being, order, and will to survive. Racially or ethnically defined states are legitimate and necessary. 4. Metapolitics: Spirit is the wellspring of culture, and politics is downstream of that. The Alt-Right wages a situational and ideological war on those deconstructing European history and identity. The decrepit values of Woodstock and Wall Street mean nothing to us. 5. White America: The founding population of the United States was primarily Anglo-Saxon and Protestant. By the Great War, a coherent American nation emerged that was European and Christian. Other races inhabited the continent and were often set in conflict or subservience to Whites. Whites alone defined America as a European society and political order. 6. Europe: Europe is our common home, and our ancestors’ bone and blood lie in its soil. European unity emerged at critical points in history, but so did fragmentation, rivalry, and betrayal. As brother nations, Europeans have competed with one another, and even hated and killed one another. We can no longer afford the luxury of intra-racial squabbling. “Brothers wars” gain us nothing, and directly lead to our collective downfall. Europeans must come together as a family. The so-called “refugee crisis” is an invasion, a war without bullets, taking place on the fields of race, religion, sex, and morality. At stake is Europe’s very identity—whether the continent will be the locus of our people’s shared story, or become just another Islamic outpost. 7. Family: The family—a man and woman in a loving relationship that produces offspring—is an essential, indispensable foundation for a healthy and functioning society. 8. Human Nature: Man is not a blank slate on which to be written, nor was he born a guileless, noble savage. Human nature—the reality of race, sex, heritability, and innate endowments—is the most powerful force shaping individuals, families, societies, and nations. 9. Women and Sex: Women, as mothers and caregivers, are key to the future of our race and civilization. We oppose feminism, deviancy, the futile denial of biological reality, and everything destructive to healthy relations between men and women. We must overcome today’s debased and lonely “porn culture” and return to a sexuality that is fruitful and erotic in the truest sense of the word. 10. Foreign Affairs: The foreign policies of European states (including immigration, diplomacy, and war) should be based on the safeguarding of its peoples—and not be beholden to special or foreign interests, nor to corporate profit motives, nor to the chimeras of globalism, humanitarianism, or the End of History. Insofar as “chauvinism” means attempting to transform non-Europeans into Europeans, we are not “Western chauvinists.” 11. Speech: American citizens should enjoy freedom of speech as guaranteed by the Constitution; we endorse this value for all European peoples. We oppose those who seek to suppress the speech of people with whom they disagree, whether through government censorship, corporate policy, digital platform denial, or intimidation. 12. Firearms: All U.S. citizens, and all Europeans, should have the right to bear arms, as a means of protecting themselves and their families and enjoying the manly sport of hunting. 13. Globalization: International trade and the good-faith exchange of ideas can be beneficial to all. Economic and political globalization, however, has been destructive to authentic cultures. Industrialized countries are being transformed into great “nothings” and “nowheres”: indistinguishable, concrete dumping grounds and shopping centers, divorced from culture, people, and history. Globalization threatens not just Europeans but every unique identity on Earth. 14. The Left: Leftism is an ideology of death and must be confronted and defeated. “Losing gracefully” will eventuate in the destruction of our people and civilization. 15. Economics: Economic freedom is not an end in itself. All economic policies should serve the people of the nation; the interests of businessmen and global merchants should never take precedence over the well-being of workers, families, and the natural world. 16. Urban Life: The automobile, the highway system, and resultant “car culture” have contributed to the death of cities and towns. While not everyone will live in urban environments, cities are vital institutions of culture, community, learning, and the arts. They should never have been abandoned by American Whites of older generations and should be reestablished as jewels of our civilization. 17. The Natural World: We are a special part of the natural order, being in it and above it. We have the potential to become nature’s steward or its destroyer. Putting aside contentious matters like global warming and resource depletion, European countries should invest in national parks, wilderness preserves, and wildlife refuges, as well as productive and sustainable farms and ranches. The natural world—and our experience of it—is an end in itself. 18. The ‘68ers: The generation born between the years 1945 and 1964 abrogated its duty to safeguard and pass down a civilization to its children. The so-called “‘68ers” engage in childish narcissism of the most extreme kind; they bear responsibility for today’s lamentable state of affairs; and they are seemingly unable even to recognize their culpability. A new generation of leadership is desperately needed. 19. Education: Modern education—from preschool to the doctoral level—has become corrupted past the point of recognition. This industry (both public and private) serves leftist ideologues, loan financiers, and a new class of administrators far more than it serves students and parents. Children should not be indoctrinated in liberal dogma but given a foundation in language, mathematics, the arts, history, and science. Higher education—far from being a “right” or a “pathway to the middle class”—is only appropriate for a cognitive elite dedicated to truth; it is improper, even detrimental, for most. Practical education—trade schools and apprenticeships—should be revived as the norm for most citizens. 20. Personal Duties: A man distinguishes himself by his deeds. And every man, in his own way, must strive to be something more than a man: to be honored by his heirs; to be part of something greater than his self. View Quote source: https://altright.com/2017/08/11/what-it-means-to-be-alt-right/ |
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The only thing spanning all half-dozen identifiable factions is post-libertarianism. The alt right is the understanding that classical liberalism is incapable of preserving itself.
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If the Republican Party is the mainstream right, who is the alternative right? View Quote Depends ... do you mean "in reality" or "in the eyes of the left"? Cos in the eyes of the left anyone who's not a liberal is alt-right. |
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There are "alt right" Nazis and not racist conservatives (fed up with neocons) that innocently wear the "alt right" label.
I'm not posting a link, but search YouTube for "the alt light strikes back". Its offensive as hell. Be prepared. I believe the real "alt right" is an actual national socialist movement. It was accidentally co-opted by frustrated conservatives unaware of its origin. |
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There are "alt right" Nazis and not racist conservatives (fed up with neocons) that innocently wear the "alt right" label. I'm not posting a link, but search YouTube for "the alt light strikes back". Its offensive as hell. Be prepared. I believe the real "alt right" is an actual national socialist movement. It was accidentally co-opted by frustrated conservatives unaware of its origin. View Quote |
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I wish we had a like function on this board. Guess I should chip in for a membership so they could make it happen.
jekbrown:Everyone the communists disagree with. View Quote GrasshopperNOmore:I believe the real "alt right" is an actual national socialist movement. It was accidentally co-opted by frustrated conservatives unaware of its origin. View Quote GreyHat:The only thing spanning all half-dozen identifiable factions is post-libertarianism. The alt right is the understanding that classical liberalism is incapable of preserving itself. View Quote DstryrOfWrlds: Nationalistic Fiscal Socialist Social Liberals View Quote Caeser2001:None. Each group is their own group. PERIOD. Each group would show up on a political compass in different areas.
https://www.politicalcompass.org/ View Quote ![]() McGuy:It's just the current label that the left/media is using to dehumanize conservatives. During the Dubya years it was "neocon".
Media/left would cover Trump events full of people who were obviously middle class working folk with not a radical bone in their body, but would use denigrating terms like "alt right" and "white nationalist". These events were implied to be dangerous to civilization. At the same time, the rioters that disrupted every event were described as "peaceful protesters". It's all propaganda. View Quote StevenH:Its a self explanatory term, alternative right. Who is the alternative to the Republican party on the right of the political spectrum? It's not white supremacists. That's the media trying to demonize everyone more conservative than John McCain. View Quote Jmmoney:Sitting around debating how people label themselves is fucking retarded. View Quote FistPeso:I am not sure what it represents, but it sounds like something I would join. View Quote Maersk:Is that like adult contemporary? View Quote Notice me senpai! |
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According to the left, anyone who is not 100% in lockstep agreement with each and every aspect of the far leftist agenda is "alt-right" AKA a white supremacist Nazi.
Including black preachers, transgender gun owners, gay conservative jews who like black dudes and anti illegal immigrtion hispanics etc. All Nazis. |
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I still don't know who they're talking about when they say alt-right and white nationalist. These terms seem to have sprung up out of nowhere when Trump won the election. View Quote We're at a difficult place of having to distinguish our conservative/Constitutional/Capitalist values from the disgusting tiny population of legit neo-Nazis who keep rearing their ugly heads. While at the same time being pummeled by accusations of the Left's hateful projections, being called hateful, bigotted, etc., and yet these are diversionary tactics that take away from unifying over stuff that actually matters and getting policy passed. The Right is bogged down and eating it's own while the Left throw's the kitched sink at us and stupid Nazis show up and make thingd worse. Meanwhile the media coddles the violent, racist, fascist Antifa & BLM folks who are a real problem, and pushing absurd beliefs into the national realm and it's further dividing the country over asburd special interests. Agh, it's crazy. |
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I don't even know what Alt Right means, nor do I care. I'm tired of labels
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The Alt-right is nothing more than a Red Herring perpetrated by the MSM for propaganda purposes....
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