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Posted: 9/19/2009 6:50:06 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/19/2009 6:58:45 PM EST by ArmyInfantryVet]
My question to the ARFCOM hive is which team is THE quintessential team of college football? When anyone mentions college football immediately come to mind?

Is it Notre Dame? Michigan? Ohio State? Nebraska? Alabama?

You OTHER fans of teams like Florida, do NOT mention your team that has only recently won it's FIRST national title in the last 20 years. We're talking about programs that are STEEPED in tradition.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 6:56:54 PM EST
In order:

Notre Dame
Alabama
USC
Oklahoma
Michigan
Ohio State
Minnesota
Miami
Nebraska
Pittsburgh
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:00:09 PM EST
Nebraska
Notre Dame
Penn State
Alabama
Ohio State
Michigan
Florida State
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:06:27 PM EST
Michigan
Notre Dame
Penn State
Alabama
Oregon
Harvard
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:09:43 PM EST
USC
Florida
Oklahoma
Texas
Penn State
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:10:45 PM EST
The top 5 programs in no particular order.

Notre Dame

Michigan

Texas

USC

Bama


There is no room to even argue here.


Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:11:06 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/19/2009 7:11:57 PM EST by ArmyInfantryVet]
Michigan
Notre Dame
Alabama
Ohio State
USC
Nebraska

These are not in order, BTW
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:11:36 PM EST
Originally Posted By VTHOKIESHOOTER:
Nebraska - Sorry, only 5
Notre Dame
Penn State - Only 2
Alabama
Ohio State
Michigan
Florida State - Only 2


Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:12:04 PM EST
It pains me to say this but Texas and Texas A&M have to be included in the list.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:12:34 PM EST

Originally Posted By VTHOKIESHOOTER:
Nebraska
Notre Dame
Penn State
Alabama
Florida State

I agree with this.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:12:40 PM EST
Originally Posted By krpind:
The top 5 programs in no particular order.

Notre Dame

Michigan

Texas - WRONG! Only three national championships

USC

Bama


There is no room to even argue here.




Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:13:33 PM EST
Army
Notre Dame
Penn State
Harvard
Alabama
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:14:54 PM EST
Oklahoma Sooners, Texas, Notre Dame, USC, Texas A&M
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:15:11 PM EST
Why are you guys putting Notre Dame on your lists?

Really? Notre Dame has sucked for a long time...
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:16:36 PM EST
Originally Posted By 20iner:
Why are you guys putting Notre Dame on your lists?

Really? Notre Dame has sucked for a long time...


The numbers dont lie. They have 12 championships. The last was in 1988
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:16:57 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/19/2009 7:17:12 PM EST by ArmyInfantryVet]

Originally Posted By 20iner:
Why are you guys putting Notre Dame on your lists?

Really? Notre Dame has sucked for a long time...

It's not about which has had alot of recent success. It's about programs that have the most prestige and tradition dating back a long time.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:16:57 PM EST
Originally Posted By 20iner:
Why are you guys putting Notre Dame on your lists?

Really? Notre Dame has sucked for a long time...


It might have to do with the "steeped in tradition thing"....

-Erik
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:17:12 PM EST

Originally Posted By 20iner:
Why are you guys putting Notre Dame on your lists?

Really? Notre Dame has sucked for a long time...

They had a longer time of being than being bad
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:17:44 PM EST

Originally Posted By 20iner:
Why are you guys putting Notre Dame on your lists?

Really? Notre Dame has sucked for a long time...

Did you miss this part?


Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet:
You OTHER fans of teams like Florida, do NOT mention your team that has only recently won it's FIRST national title in the last 20 years. We're talking about programs that are STEEPED in tradition.



The thread isn't about "which team has the most championships"....it's "steeped in tradition" and Notre Dame is JUST that.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:18:57 PM EST

Originally Posted By tyman:

Originally Posted By 20iner:
Why are you guys putting Notre Dame on your lists?

Really? Notre Dame has sucked for a long time...

Did you miss this part?


Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet:
YouOTHER fans of teams like Florida, do NOT mention your team that hasonly recently won it's FIRST national title in the last 20 years. We'retalking about programs that are STEEPED in tradition.



The thread isn't about "which team has the most championships"....it's "steeped in tradition" and Notre Dame is JUST that.

Fair enough. I just hate Notre Dame, and Brady Quinn.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:19:50 PM EST
Originally Posted By Jammer1:
Originally Posted By krpind:
The top 5 programs in no particular order.

Notre Dame

Michigan

Texas - WRONG! Only three national championships

USC

Bama


There is no room to even argue here.






Why don't you google all time wins and get back to me.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:20:30 PM EST

Originally Posted By Jammer1:
Originally Posted By krpind:
The top 5 programs in no particular order.

Notre Dame

Michigan

Texas - WRONG! Only three national championships Wrong! Texas has 4

USC

Bama


There is no room to even argue here.






Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:20:39 PM EST

#1. Michigan.

#2. Notre Dame.



Everyone else are just Johnny-come-latelys.


Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:20:54 PM EST

Originally Posted By krpind:
The top 5 programs in no particular order.

Notre Dame

Michigan

Texas

USC

Bama


There is no room to even argue here.



Very good list
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:21:31 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/19/2009 7:21:42 PM EST by tyman]

Originally Posted By 20iner:

Originally Posted By tyman:

Originally Posted By 20iner:
Why are you guys putting Notre Dame on your lists?

Really? Notre Dame has sucked for a long time...

Did you miss this part?


Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet:
YouOTHER fans of teams like Florida, do NOT mention your team that hasonly recently won it's FIRST national title in the last 20 years. We'retalking about programs that are STEEPED in tradition.



The thread isn't about "which team has the most championships"....it's "steeped in tradition" and Notre Dame is JUST that.

Fair enough. I just hate Notre Dame, and Brady Quinn.

How can you hate the team that let Rudy play.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:23:40 PM EST
Originally Posted By tyman:

Originally Posted By Jammer1:
Originally Posted By krpind:
The top 5 programs in no particular order.

Notre Dame

Michigan

Texas - WRONG! Only three national championships Wrong! Texas has 4

USC

Bama


There is no room to even argue here.








Upon closer inspection of the numbers, you are correct. But that is hardly impressive. Besides, their just a bunch of fuckin Texicans.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:25:54 PM EST
Originally Posted By Texaspyro21:
It pains me to say this but Texas and Texas A&M have to be included in the list.


I concur.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:27:31 PM EST
Alabama
Notre Dame
USC
Texas
Oklahoma

In that order.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:27:53 PM EST
Seriously though.. some of these teams listed are

Some of them, by the time they got their FIRST National title, Michigan already had 8 by then.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:30:18 PM EST
Top 10 Div. I Schools by # of Games Played

1 Rutgers 1227
2 Navy 1205
3 Michigan 1203
4t Nebraska 1194
4t Syracuse 1194
6 Virginia 1192
7 Penn State 1191
8 Texas 1182
9 North Carolina 1176
10 Pittsburgh 1170

Top 10 Div. I Schools by # of Games Won

1 Michigan 872
2 Texas 832
3 Notre Dame 831
4 Nebraska 817
5 Ohio State 808
6 Penn State 800
7 Alabama 799
8 Oklahoma 791
9 Tennessee 776
10 Southern Cal 766
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:30:39 PM EST

Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet:
Seriously though.. some of these teams listed are

Some of them, by the time they got their FIRST National title, Michigan already had 8 by then.

Meh, all but one of their titles are pre-1950.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:30:51 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/19/2009 7:43:44 PM EST by OleWild]
Total All-Time National Champions from Major Selectors
School Championships
Princeton 28
Yale 27
Michigan 22
Notre Dame 21
Oklahoma 17
USC 17
Alabama 16
Ohio State 13
Harvard 12
Nebraska 11
Pittsburgh 11
Miami 9
Texas 9
Florida State 7
LSU 7


1869-present
Below is a list of all of the CFBDW recognized national championships from 1869-present.

School Championships Seasons
Princeton 24 1869, 1870, 1872, 1873, 1875, 1877, 1878, 1879, 1880, 1881, 1884, 1885, 1886, 1889, 1893, 1896, 1899, 1903, 1906, 1911, 1920, 1922, 1933, 1935
Yale 19 1874, 1876, 1877, 1880, 1881, 1882, 1883, 1884, 1886, 1887, 1888, 1891, 1892, 1894, 1900, 1905, 1906, 1907, 1909
Notre Dame 12 1924, 1929, 1930, 1943, 1946, 1947, 1949, 1953, 1966, 1973, 1977, 1988
Alabama 11 1925, 1926, 1930, 1934, 1961, 1964, 1965, 1973, 1978, 1979, 1992
Harvard 10 1875, 1890, 1898, 1899, 1901, 1908, 1910, 1912, 1913, 1919
USC 10 1928, 1931, 1932, 1962, 1967, 1972, 1974, 1978, 2003, 2004
Michigan 7 1901, 1902, 1923, 1933, 1947, 1948, 1997
Oklahoma 7 1950, 1955, 1956, 1974, 1975, 1985, 2000
Minnesota 6 1934, 1935, 1936, 1940, 1941, 1960
Pittsburgh 6 1910, 1916, 1918, 1936, 1937, 1976
Miami 5 1983, 1987, 1989, 1991, 2001
Nebraska 5 1970, 1971, 1994, 1995, 1997
Ohio State 5 1942, 1954, 1957, 1968, 2002
Army 4 1914, 1944, 1945, 1946
Georgia Tech 4 1917, 1928, 1952, 1990
Illinois 4 1914, 1919, 1923, 1927
Pennsylvania 4 1895, 1897, 1904, 1908
Tennessee 4 1938, 1950, 1951, 1998
Texas 4 1963, 1969, 1970, 2005
California 3 1920, 1921, 1922
Florida 3 1996, 2006, 2008
LSU 3 1958, 2003, 2007

National Poll Championships (1936–present)
School Championships Seasons
Notre Dame 8 1943, 1946, 1947, 1949, 1966, 1973, 1977, 1988
USC 7 1962, 1967, 1972, 1974 (UPI), 1978 (UPI), 2003 (AP), 2004 (BCS/AP/USAT)
Oklahoma 7 1950, 1955, 1956, 1974, 1975, 1985, 2000 (BCS/AP/USAT)
Alabama 7 1961, 1964, 1965, 1973 (UPI), 1978, 1979, 1992
Ohio State 5 1942, 1954, 1957 (UPI), 1968, 2002 (BCS/AP/USAT)
Nebraska 5 1970, 1971, 1994, 1995, 1997 (USAT)
Miami 5 1983, 1987, 1989, 1991, 2001 (BCS/AP/USAT)
Texas 4 1963, 1969, 1970 (UPI), 2005 (BCS/AP/USAT)
Minnesota 4 1936, 1940, 1941, 1960
LSU 3 1958, 2003 (BCS/USAT), 2007 (BCS/AP/USAT)
Florida 3 1996, 2006 (BCS/AP/USAT), 2008 (BCS/AP/USAT
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:31:20 PM EST

Originally Posted By Jammer1:
Originally Posted By tyman:

Originally Posted By Jammer1:
Originally Posted By krpind:
The top 5 programs in no particular order.

Notre Dame

Michigan

Texas - WRONG! Only three national championships Wrong! Texas has 4

USC

Bama


There is no room to even argue here.








Upon closer inspection of the numbers, you are correct. But that is hardly impressive. Besides, their just a bunch of fuckin Texicans.

I concur. But again, this isn't about "most championships".
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:32:27 PM EST
Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet:

Originally Posted By krpind:
The top 5 programs in no particular order.

Notre Dame

Michigan

Texas

USC

Bama


There is no room to even argue here.



Very good list


Nebraska deserves to be in there too. So mine is now a Top 6
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:33:01 PM EST

Originally Posted By tyman:

Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet:
Seriously though.. some of these teams listed are

Some of them, by the time they got their FIRST National title, Michigan already had 8 by then.

Meh, all but one of their titles are pre-1950.

It doesn't matter, I said STEEPED in tradition. All these Johnny come lately picks are stupid. Shit, Florida won their FIRST national title in 1996. Sorry, but that is not even CLOSE to being "steeped in tradition".
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:33:04 PM EST
Michigan
Notre Dame
Penn State
Florida State
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:33:06 PM EST
Penn State
Ohio State
Texas
Oklahoma
Notre Dame
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:33:30 PM EST

Originally Posted By OleWild:
School Championships
Princeton 28
Yale 27
Michigan 22
Notre Dame 21
Oklahoma 17
USC 17
Alabama 16
Ohio State 13
Harvard 12
Nebraska 11
Pittsburgh 11
Miami 9
Texas 9
Florida State 7
LSU 7

Ah, someone who really knows what they're talking about.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:33:47 PM EST
Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet:
Seriously though.. some of these teams listed are

Some of them, by the time they got their FIRST National title, Michigan already had 8 by then.


Yeah and if you want to go by that. Princeton had 20 before Michigan had their FIRST!! Whats your point?
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:35:15 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/19/2009 7:46:34 PM EST by anekrel]

Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet:
Seriously though.. some of these teams listed are

Some of them, by the time they got their FIRST National title, Michigan already had 8 by then.


Oregon made my list because they have an old program (1893), have a long history of Rose Bowl appearances (first in 1917), and PCC, PAC-8 and PAC-10 titles. As a kid, I can remember constantly seeing and hearing things about how great UofO's program is and this and that, and it seems to me they get more press coverage. When I think of college football, they are a team that comes to mind.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:35:32 PM EST

Originally Posted By dercot03:
Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet:
Seriously though.. some of these teams listed are

Some of them, by the time they got their FIRST National title, Michigan already had 8 by then.


Yeah and if you want to go by that. Princeton had 20 before Michigan had their FIRST!! Whats your point?

If your team's first national championship was attained in the middle of the 20th century. I hardly see how that can count as being "steeped in tradition".
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:35:48 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/19/2009 7:41:16 PM EST by texas_mustang_01]
Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet:

Originally Posted By krpind:
The top 5 programs in no particular order.

Notre Dame

Michigan

Texas

USC

Bama


There is no room to even argue here.



Very good list


Yep, good list. I'd add the rest of the top 10

Oklahoma

Ohio St.

Miami

Nebraska

Georgia OR Penn State


Those are the teams with the highest winning percentages and the most nation championships after the ivy league era.

Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:36:43 PM EST
Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet:

Originally Posted By dercot03:
Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet:
Seriously though.. some of these teams listed are

Some of them, by the time they got their FIRST National title, Michigan already had 8 by then.


Yeah and if you want to go by that. Princeton had 20 before Michigan had their FIRST!! Whats your point?

If your team's first national championship was attained in the middle of the 20th century. I hardly see how that can count as being "steeped in tradition".


Yes I agree.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:41:35 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/19/2009 7:41:58 PM EST by ArmyInfantryVet]

Originally Posted By dercot03:
Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet:

Originally Posted By dercot03:
Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet:
Seriously though.. some of these teams listed are

Some of them, by the time they got their FIRST National title, Michigan already had 8 by then.


Yeah and if you want to go by that. Princeton had 20 before Michigan had their FIRST!! Whats your point?

If your team's first national championship was attained in the middle of the 20th century. I hardly see how that can count as being "steeped in tradition".


Yes I agree.

I'll concede that having a long, storied history of winning lots and lots of games and championships doesn't constitute being "steeped in tradition" completely. But it certainly is a very large factor in it.

If my Detroit Lions win a Superbowl this year (they wont), I'm not going to list them in the same group as the Pittsburgh Steelers, Dallas Cowboys or the 49ers. Because those teams have a long storied history of winning.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:42:50 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/19/2009 7:43:30 PM EST by tyman]

Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet:

Originally Posted By tyman:

Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet:
Seriously though.. some of these teams listed are

Some of them, by the time they got their FIRST National title, Michigan already had 8 by then.

Meh, all but one of their titles are pre-1950.

It doesn't matter, I said STEEPED in tradition. All these Johnny come lately picks are stupid. Shit, Florida won their FIRST national title in 1996. Sorry, but that is not even CLOSE to being "steeped in tradition".

Meh...they haven't done dick since. *shrug*
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:44:19 PM EST

Originally Posted By tyman:

Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet:

Originally Posted By tyman:

Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet:
Seriously though.. some of these teams listed are

Some of them, by the time they got their FIRST National title, Michigan already had 8 by then.

Meh, all but one of their titles are pre-1950.

It doesn't matter, I said STEEPED in tradition. All these Johnny come lately picks are stupid. Shit, Florida won their FIRST national title in 1996. Sorry, but that is not even CLOSE to being "steeped in tradition".

Meh...they haven't done dick since. *shrug*


We're talking about programs that are STEEPED in tradition.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:51:55 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/19/2009 7:57:43 PM EST by OleWild]
Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet:

Originally Posted By tyman:

Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet:

Originally Posted By tyman:

Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet:
Seriously though.. some of these teams listed are

Some of them, by the time they got their FIRST National title, Michigan already had 8 by then.

Meh, all but one of their titles are pre-1950.

It doesn't matter, I said STEEPED in tradition. All these Johnny come lately picks are stupid. Shit, Florida won their FIRST national title in 1996. Sorry, but that is not even CLOSE to being "steeped in tradition".

Meh...they haven't done dick since. *shrug*



We're talking about programs that are STEEPED in tradition.


Well, where are you drawing your time line for the "steeped tradtion"? If you start in 1936, Michigan doesn't even make the top 10 in total National Championships and Notre Dame hasn't won one in 21 years.



Link Posted: 9/19/2009 7:57:15 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/19/2009 7:59:04 PM EST by ArmyInfantryVet]

Originally Posted By OleWild:
Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet:

Originally Posted By tyman:

Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet:

Originally Posted By tyman:

Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet:
Seriously though.. some of these teams listed are

Some of them, by the time they got their FIRST National title, Michigan already had 8 by then.

Meh, all but one of their titles are pre-1950.

It doesn't matter, I said STEEPED in tradition. All these Johnny come lately picks are stupid. Shit, Florida won their FIRST national title in 1996. Sorry, but that is not even CLOSE to being "steeped in tradition".

Meh...they haven't done dick since. *shrug*



We're talking about programs that are STEEPED in tradition.


Well, where are you drawing your time line for the "steeped tradtion"? If you start in 1936, Michigan doesn't even make the top 10 in total National Championships.




Teams that are still at least relevant today.

The Ivy league football teams DOMINATED in the late 19th and early 20th century, but they are not in the national spot light anymore.

Like Notre Dame, sure they haven't done much lately, but they are VERY much steeped in tradition, and are still very much in the national spotlight. South Bend is considered sacred ground to MANY college football enthusiasts, whether they are a fan or not.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 8:19:09 PM EST
Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet:

Originally Posted By OleWild:
Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet:

Originally Posted By tyman:

Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet:

Originally Posted By tyman:

Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet:
Seriously though.. some of these teams listed are

Some of them, by the time they got their FIRST National title, Michigan already had 8 by then.

Meh, all but one of their titles are pre-1950.

It doesn't matter, I said STEEPED in tradition. All these Johnny come lately picks are stupid. Shit, Florida won their FIRST national title in 1996. Sorry, but that is not even CLOSE to being "steeped in tradition".

Meh...they haven't done dick since. *shrug*



We're talking about programs that are STEEPED in tradition.


Well, where are you drawing your time line for the "steeped tradtion"? If you start in 1936, Michigan doesn't even make the top 10 in total National Championships.




Teams that are still at least relevant today.

The Ivy league football teams DOMINATED in the late 19th and early 20th century, but they are not in the national spot light anymore.

Like Notre Dame, sure they haven't done much lately, but they are VERY much steeped in tradition, and are still very much in the national spotlight. South Bend is considered sacred ground to MANY college football enthusiasts, whether they are a fan or not.


Well, if you include only schools who won a National Championship from 1936 to date, and exclude all schools that haven't won a championship in the last twenty years or only won their first National Championship within the last twenty years - I come up with:

USC
Oklahoma
Alabama
Ohio State
Nebraska
Miami
Texas
LSU
Tennessee
Michigan
Notre Dame (although their last championship was 21 years ago I agree they've got to be included)
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 8:22:47 PM EST

Originally Posted By OleWild:
Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet:

Originally Posted By OleWild:
Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet:

Originally Posted By tyman:

Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet:

Originally Posted By tyman:

Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet:
Seriously though.. some of these teams listed are

Some of them, by the time they got their FIRST National title, Michigan already had 8 by then.

Meh, all but one of their titles are pre-1950.

It doesn't matter, I said STEEPED in tradition. All these Johnny come lately picks are stupid. Shit, Florida won their FIRST national title in 1996. Sorry, but that is not even CLOSE to being "steeped in tradition".

Meh...they haven't done dick since. *shrug*



We're talking about programs that are STEEPED in tradition.


Well, where are you drawing your time line for the "steeped tradtion"? If you start in 1936, Michigan doesn't even make the top 10 in total National Championships.




Teams that are still at least relevant today.

The Ivy league football teams DOMINATED in the late 19th and early 20th century, but they are not in the national spot light anymore.

Like Notre Dame, sure they haven't done much lately, but they are VERY much steeped in tradition, and are still very much in the national spotlight. South Bend is considered sacred ground to MANY college football enthusiasts, whether they are a fan or not.


Well, if you include only schools who won a National Championship from 1936 to date, and exclude all schools that haven't won a championship in the last twenty years or only won their first National Championship within the last twenty years - I come up with:

USC
Oklahoma
Alabama
Ohio State
Nebraska
Miami
Texas
LSU
Tennessee
Michigan
Notre Dame (although their last championship was 21 years ago I agree they've got to be included)

Yeah. See, I agree with that list.
Link Posted: 9/19/2009 8:29:15 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/19/2009 8:31:42 PM EST by GoDrNo]
Being a Michigan State Spartan I hate to say this but 4 of the top 10 teams have to be Sparty's hated rivals of:

Michigan
Notre Dame
Ohio State
Penn State

other top 10 teams have to be

Nebraska
Oklahoma
USC
Texas
Alabama

Someone else can try to figure out who takes up the other spot in the top 10 (these are listed in no particular order). I really don't think any of these 9 teams can be left out of the top 10.

eta. Jo Pa and his 9 billion years as head coach put Penn State on the list.
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