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Posted: 5/6/2004 12:23:40 PM EST
[Last Edit: 5/6/2004 12:25:08 PM EST by SteyrAUG]
Link Posted: 5/6/2004 12:24:38 PM EST
me.
Link Posted: 5/6/2004 12:26:15 PM EST
cant afford. no need. it would be kinda cool, but eating is a bit more important
Link Posted: 5/6/2004 12:26:42 PM EST
i used to.
Link Posted: 5/6/2004 12:26:51 PM EST
I dont have one and dont intend to get one. First gen? We use newer ones in the Guard, and anything older wouldn't satisfy me. I just have no use for a NV scope for my personal rifle.I cannot justify that expense.
Link Posted: 5/6/2004 12:26:54 PM EST
Me. But my camcorder has night vision, and I've got a roll of duct tape that's ready to go if need be.
Link Posted: 5/6/2004 12:27:49 PM EST
Me, and is that a potential group buy I'm smelling?
Link Posted: 5/6/2004 12:28:18 PM EST
Can't afford GenIII, anything less is pointless to me.
Link Posted: 5/6/2004 12:28:56 PM EST
I don't Poor college student who can't afford one...
Link Posted: 5/6/2004 12:29:36 PM EST
I can't afford it. And don't see a pressing need.
Link Posted: 5/6/2004 12:30:10 PM EST
Same here. I hate to "settle" for a cheaper version of something because I can't afford the real deal. If I ever inherit some money or something I'd probably buy a decent Gen III.
Link Posted: 5/6/2004 12:30:44 PM EST
I don't have any. No need for it.
Link Posted: 5/6/2004 12:30:52 PM EST
Link Posted: 5/6/2004 12:30:59 PM EST
I don't. The streets around here are way too bright...
Link Posted: 5/6/2004 12:31:56 PM EST
I'd like a set of NVGs. Can't afford the ones I want, though.
Link Posted: 5/6/2004 12:34:43 PM EST
Don't have, do want. Can't justify cost.

Mike
Suburban Cowboy
Link Posted: 5/6/2004 12:35:26 PM EST
[Last Edit: 5/6/2004 12:35:47 PM EST by arowneragain]
Not I.


ETA: the ABC guys are making a list......
Link Posted: 5/6/2004 12:36:49 PM EST

Originally Posted By 223kid:
Same here. I hate to "settle" for a cheaper version of something because I can't afford the real deal. If I ever inherit some money or something I'd probably buy a decent Gen III.



Ditto. I'm an 'all or nothing' kind of guy.

I would like an NVD, but if I did get one I'd have to go PVS-14. I don't think it's worth $3000+ to get a PVS-14, because I would use for fun a couple times and then it would sit in my safe gathering dust until something newer and better came along in the NVD market.

And if I DID get a PVS-14, I would need to get a PAQ-4C or PEQ-2 to go with it. That's several thousand more down the drain.

IMHO NVDs are just toys for the guys that already have everything else...
Link Posted: 5/6/2004 12:40:15 PM EST

Originally Posted By Belfry_Express:
cant afford. no need. it would be kinda cool, but eating is a bit more important



That pretty much sums it up for me, too. I'd like some night vision stuff to work with, but there are too many of the basics to deal with first...
Link Posted: 5/6/2004 12:40:43 PM EST
I dun don't!
Link Posted: 5/6/2004 12:41:27 PM EST

Originally Posted By Cypher214:
Can't afford GenIII, anything less is pointless to me.



That's it.
Link Posted: 5/6/2004 12:41:42 PM EST

Originally Posted By Lockedon:
I don't Poor college student who can't afford one...



ditto id rather spend the money on more guns.
Link Posted: 5/6/2004 12:43:23 PM EST
[Last Edit: 5/6/2004 12:44:24 PM EST by THellURider]

Originally Posted By SteyrAUG:
I know some have Gen IIIs, etc. but who still does not have any form of night vision for their AR15?

Editted to add: And why? Can't see a need? Can't afford?



Me!

Its a lot of money for something that has relatively few uses. It would be great for the ranch but....

Besides the prices for ones that offer some kind of definetion etc are steep.
Link Posted: 5/6/2004 12:44:35 PM EST
I don't have one. I'm still waiting on a Thermal Imaging sight for less than $99.
Link Posted: 5/6/2004 12:46:32 PM EST
I don't.

Can't afford the Gen 3, and frankly I really don't have a need.

Any 'night fighting' I'm likely to do will be done with my Surefire & EOTech not NVG and an IR laser...
Link Posted: 5/6/2004 12:47:00 PM EST
I can already see in the dark, so I'm all set.
Link Posted: 5/6/2004 12:47:40 PM EST
Link Posted: 5/6/2004 12:49:57 PM EST
Link Posted: 5/6/2004 12:53:14 PM EST
don't have one. can't afford one, never needed one.

I could see just as well without them as my platoon mates WITH them....
Link Posted: 5/6/2004 12:54:56 PM EST
Summer is so light I dont need one

Winter is so cold the batteries run out quickly.
Link Posted: 5/6/2004 1:11:15 PM EST
Not been able to rationalize the $ for all of the other firearm necessities. Maybe in the next half dozen years I will end up with something. I've come to realize that good scopes could run the price of the rifle.
Link Posted: 5/6/2004 2:01:01 PM EST
So, what's a decent, LOW COST, Gen I or II scope (not monocular)? Links?
Link Posted: 5/6/2004 2:14:26 PM EST
I don't solely because I have absolutely no use for it.
Link Posted: 5/6/2004 2:16:00 PM EST
nope
I can't justify the cost for the little bit of use it would get. actually it'd get none. I don't have anyplace to go shoot at night. if I ever decide to spend money on NV it will be on some sort of goggle system or handheld unit since I might actually use that for non gun stuff too
Link Posted: 5/6/2004 2:18:43 PM EST
Night hunting is a possible good use for one. I can buy the more inexpensive quality guns (think Rock Island Armory, not Lorcin/Jennings/etc), but if you go higher than those, you outprice me.
Link Posted: 5/6/2004 2:29:51 PM EST
Don't have any, have no idea what kind of money we are talking here. I wouldn't know a good price for NV if it bit me on the ass.

Another request for pricing info.


ByteTheBullet (-:
Link Posted: 5/6/2004 2:31:16 PM EST
I have a Gen I night vision monocular but not a scope. I can't rationalize spending that amount of money on one ACCESSORY when I could buy 2, 3 or 4 FIREARMS for that kinda jack.

OTOH, if I won the lottery, I'd have all the latest, greatest NVDs.

I don't use the monocular as often as I thought I would when I bought it, so a night vision scope for a firearm looks pretty unneeded.
Link Posted: 5/6/2004 2:31:33 PM EST
... Gen III here, (AN/PVS-7B)

Link Posted: 5/6/2004 2:36:40 PM EST

Originally Posted By Lurch:
Me, and is that a potential group buy I'm smelling?



IT'S A STEYRAUG THREAD... OF COURSE THERE'S GOING TO BE A GROUP BUY!!!

Depending upon the price, and my available finances, a discounted price, and the quality of the optics...I might be interested though. Can't pass up a good opportunity to get decent night vision.
Link Posted: 5/6/2004 2:37:07 PM EST
I've used a Gen1+ russian scope a few times. It works better than I expected. Much better than the older NV I 've tried years ago. It is commonly available in the ~$500 range.

My TA01 greatly outperformed it (dusk+) until it got REALLY dark (cloudy, no moon night). Then, NV rules.

A point to consider for you flashlight only guys- with NV, you can see the bad guy-a long ways off, especially with your IR burst. He probably won't be able to see you UNLESS he has NV. IR projected from another optic really stands out through your own NV. One use of your flashlight immediately lets a BG know where you are. I think I've also heard flashlights described as "bullet magnets."

Link Posted: 5/6/2004 2:37:50 PM EST
I want/need some decent NV capability. Even if its not weapons mountable, still like to have some. Just havent had the extra $$.
Link Posted: 5/6/2004 2:37:54 PM EST
[Last Edit: 5/6/2004 2:38:59 PM EST by SteyrAUG]
Link Posted: 5/6/2004 2:43:30 PM EST
[Last Edit: 5/6/2004 2:52:46 PM EST by jblachly]
I'm saving for a thermal (FLIR) camera.

Link Posted: 5/6/2004 2:56:37 PM EST
I don't have one. I want one someday.

Until then I just send out Greg3sgal out ahead of me about 100 yards with a flashlight.
Link Posted: 5/6/2004 2:58:28 PM EST

Originally Posted By SteyrAUG:

Originally Posted By ByteTheBullet:
Don't have any, have no idea what kind of money we are talking here. I wouldn't know a good price for NV if it bit me on the ass.

Another request for pricing info.


ByteTheBullet (-:



Basic Gen I weapon scopes that aren't complete crap, or won't blind you like Russian surplus, start around $600. I like the Aries 390 Paladin for my all purpose NV. The Gen III stuff can cost 3-4 times as much as the rifle. It is nice but I cannot justify it, Gen I actually covers my needs.



Thanks for the info. Looks like it is out of my 'discretionary funds' range right now. I did just send off for a CMP M1. Playing the waiting game now.


ByteTheBullet (-:
Link Posted: 5/6/2004 3:00:26 PM EST

Originally Posted By SteyrAUG:
Basic Gen I weapon scopes that aren't complete crap, or won't blind you like Russian surplus, start around $600. I like the Aries 390 Paladin for my all purpose NV. The Gen III stuff can cost 3-4 times as much as the rifle. It is nice but I cannot justify it, Gen I actually covers my needs.



That's exactly the reason I don't have NV. Most recommendations go along the lines of 'if it ain't Gen 3, it's shit'. Well, considering where I live, and the ranges I go to, I'd have maybe an avenue of about 20 minutes a week to use it. $3000+ for 20 minutes a week, when I can find the time, is economically unsound. Hell, 1400 for a Gen 2 for that amount of time isn't eactly logical. And I'd hate to drop 700 or so on a Gen I only to find it sucks, even though my shooting rarely goes beyond 100 yards, and never beyond 200.

Best thing that most NVG companies/sales don't seem to have is real comparison pics of the different models. Something where you can get a good objective view of what they will look like, to make a decision.

Link Posted: 5/6/2004 3:00:57 PM EST

Originally Posted By eswanson:
Me. But my camcorder has night vision, and I've got a roll of duct tape that's ready to go if need be.



Hmmm...do you have a girlfriend named "Paris", by any chance?
Link Posted: 5/6/2004 3:03:33 PM EST
Don't got. Lot's of other toys taking priority.
Link Posted: 5/6/2004 3:08:36 PM EST
How good are those digital night vision displays are?I know they only work with a ir light but you may be able to scan your area with the ir light off before turning yours on. Then you will light up like a christmas tree to those passive night devices.I am still thinking about getting one.
Link Posted: 5/6/2004 3:16:38 PM EST
After using a PVS-14 I couldn't go back. I did have a Gen II scope but I never used it. If I ever get the money to blow I will pick up a 14 with the weapons mount and run around the woods at night. But first is the A4gery, SPR, Barrett M82 ...
Link Posted: 5/6/2004 3:17:59 PM EST
I would LOVE to have one. But at this point, I can’t afford anything for myself right now.


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