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Posted: 9/30/2005 11:11:31 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/30/2005 11:28:02 AM EDT by SigSaurP228]
A 9 mm that goes bang everytime you pull the trigger

or

A .45 that you have to worry is going to function in the moment of truth.


Here is my reason for asking. I have a co-worker who has found two guns to purchase I have personal expirience with both of these guns. The first is a .45 of questionable background that has has several FTF on factory ammo the second is a P226 that has ran like top for 5k rounds. The only reason this liberal bastard is buying the gun is because no all of a sudden he is afraid. His wife is being stalked. His words were if I have to shoot somebody then I want to know that I can put them down in one shot.
Link Posted: 9/30/2005 11:16:52 AM EDT
Duh!
Link Posted: 9/30/2005 11:17:45 AM EDT
I hear them Browning hi-Powers are nice pieces.
Link Posted: 9/30/2005 11:19:37 AM EDT
the .45 so i can sell it and get a 10-22 and a .38
Link Posted: 9/30/2005 11:21:27 AM EDT
I have a sig 226 that goes bang everytime.

I have a 70 series Colt .45 ACP that doesn't eject a case every 150 rounds or so.

Guess which one is in my night stand
Link Posted: 9/30/2005 11:22:07 AM EDT
both of course.
Link Posted: 9/30/2005 11:28:36 AM EDT
I added a little more info to my post.
Link Posted: 9/30/2005 11:30:59 AM EDT
Not gonna vote because anything I own - no matter what the caliber - will be reliable.
Link Posted: 9/30/2005 11:33:38 AM EDT
An ultra reliable .45

Gun goes bang everytime the trigger is pulled -Bad guy goes thud everytime the trigger is pulled.
Link Posted: 9/30/2005 11:35:03 AM EDT

Originally Posted By PinPointOne:
An ultra reliable .45

Gun goes bang everytime the trigger is pulled -Bad guy goes thud everytime the trigger is pulled.



You don't practice with it ever? Like, on paper or something?
Link Posted: 9/30/2005 11:36:42 AM EDT
The answer to the specific question I think is obivous - for any firearm that even has the most remote chance of being used in a defensive situation, relibility trumps everything! A "superior" round that never leaves the barrel is obviously worthless, and any firearm with reliability issues should never be used for anything other than range shooting.

As an aside - in general, I personally would prefer a super-reliable .45 to a super-reliable 9mm - if given the choice.
Link Posted: 9/30/2005 11:37:52 AM EDT

Originally Posted By PinPointOne:
An ultra reliable .45

Gun goes bang everytime the trigger is pulled -Bad guy goes thud everytime the trigger is pulled.



The only ones in existence would be a SIG P220 or a P245.
Link Posted: 9/30/2005 11:39:44 AM EDT
Does this question even really need to be asked?
Link Posted: 9/30/2005 11:39:51 AM EDT

Originally Posted By SigSaurP228:
... His words were if I have to shoot somebody then I want to know that I can put them down in one shot.



Tell him unless he's willing to drive around in an M1 and use that 120mm there is no such small arms round.

A 9mm in the right place will do the job, but can he put it in the right place - especially under stress? Whichever handgun he buys (and it better go bang) he WILL need some training.

'Having a gun and thinking you're armed, is like owning a piano and thinking you're a musician' - Jeff Cooper.
Link Posted: 9/30/2005 11:43:42 AM EDT

Originally Posted By SJSAMPLE:

Originally Posted By PinPointOne:
An ultra reliable .45

Gun goes bang everytime the trigger is pulled -Bad guy goes thud everytime the trigger is pulled.



The only ones in existence would be a SIG P220 or a P245.



You've shot every .45 in existence?

I'm no expert but I'm sure even Lorcin pinched off a reliable one every once in a while.
Link Posted: 9/30/2005 11:43:46 AM EDT

Originally Posted By SJSAMPLE:

Originally Posted By PinPointOne:
An ultra reliable .45

Gun goes bang everytime the trigger is pulled -Bad guy goes thud everytime the trigger is pulled.



The only ones in existence would be a SIG P220 or a P245.




Sig is not the only maker of ultra-reliable 45 caliber pistols .
Yes, i like Sig too, but there is more available than just them.
Link Posted: 9/30/2005 11:46:15 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/30/2005 11:48:39 AM EDT by napalm]

Originally Posted By SigSaurP228:
His words were if I have to shoot somebody then I want to know that I can put them down in one shot.




There's no such thing.


Unless he can put one shot in the attacker's brain pan 100% of the time no matter what. Even then I'm sure there would be an exception.
Link Posted: 9/30/2005 11:49:21 AM EDT

Originally Posted By PinPointOne:

Originally Posted By SJSAMPLE:

Originally Posted By PinPointOne:
An ultra reliable .45

Gun goes bang everytime the trigger is pulled -Bad guy goes thud everytime the trigger is pulled.



The only ones in existence would be a SIG P220 or a P245.




Sig is not the only maker of ultra-reliable 45 caliber pistols .
Yes, i like Sig too, but there is more available than just them.



cough Glock cough
Link Posted: 9/30/2005 11:50:17 AM EDT
Are we talking Air5oft or real steel here?
Link Posted: 9/30/2005 11:50:20 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Dusty_C:

Originally Posted By PinPointOne:

Originally Posted By SJSAMPLE:

Originally Posted By PinPointOne:
An ultra reliable .45

Gun goes bang everytime the trigger is pulled -Bad guy goes thud everytime the trigger is pulled.



The only ones in existence would be a SIG P220 or a P245.




Sig is not the only maker of ultra-reliable 45 caliber pistols .
Yes, i like Sig too, but there is more available than just them.



cough Glock cough



Agreed and corrected.
Can't wait until somebody tries to bring the 1911 into this.
Link Posted: 9/30/2005 11:51:42 AM EDT

Originally Posted By SJSAMPLE:

Originally Posted By Dusty_C:

Originally Posted By PinPointOne:

Originally Posted By SJSAMPLE:

Originally Posted By PinPointOne:
An ultra reliable .45

Gun goes bang everytime the trigger is pulled -Bad guy goes thud everytime the trigger is pulled.



The only ones in existence would be a SIG P220 or a P245.




Sig is not the only maker of ultra-reliable 45 caliber pistols .
Yes, i like Sig too, but there is more available than just them.





Heckler & Kough

cough Glock cough



Agreed and corrected.
Can't wait until somebody tries to bring the 1911 into this.

Link Posted: 9/30/2005 11:53:18 AM EDT
Come to think of it I own a 1911 that has NEVER failed .

Key word being NEVER.
Link Posted: 9/30/2005 11:54:28 AM EDT
Is this a trick question?

The answer is obvious.
Link Posted: 9/30/2005 11:56:08 AM EDT
My 45's have no problems.

Specific to your question though, the 226 is a fine weapon and I would certainly not feel undergaunned with it, I simply prefer the .45.

Wish I hadn't sold my 226.
Link Posted: 9/30/2005 11:56:25 AM EDT
Link Posted: 9/30/2005 11:56:54 AM EDT
Fix the .45 acp
Link Posted: 9/30/2005 11:59:45 AM EDT

Originally Posted By PinPointOne:
Come to think of it I own a 1911 that has NEVER failed .

Key word being NEVER.




Of the four 1911's (and two 1911 clones) I own, only one of them has EVER had a failure of any kind.

Link Posted: 9/30/2005 12:00:29 PM EDT
Tell him to buy the 45 and have it worked.

If that isn't an option, tell him to buy the massively underpowered but reliable 9.
Link Posted: 9/30/2005 12:06:18 PM EDT
Tell him to buy a pump shotgun. Then he won't have to actually shoot someone, he can just rack it and the guy will run away with a trail of piss behind him.
Link Posted: 9/30/2005 12:24:59 PM EDT
A liberal wants to buy a gun?
Buy him a Loricin or a jennings.
That way he'll pull the gun, it wont work, then he'll be dead and his genes will no longer pollute the gene pool.

It will also make for a good segueway to nailing his wife.
Link Posted: 9/30/2005 12:32:07 PM EDT
When he said that he wanted to make sure that he only had to pull the trigger once I almost cried. There is no use in trying to talk sense into some people I was frustrated.
Link Posted: 9/30/2005 1:39:13 PM EDT

Originally Posted By napalm:

Originally Posted By SigSaurP228:
His words were if I have to shoot somebody then I want to know that I can put them down in one shot.




There's no such thing.


Unless he can put one shot in the attacker's brain pan 100% of the time no matter what. Even then I'm sure there would be an exception.




The 226s now come equiped with the Replay button - another Zorg invention - it's even easier.
Link Posted: 9/30/2005 1:45:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/30/2005 1:46:17 PM EDT by CeramicGod]
My main carry piece is a SW99 in 45 and it has fired over 5,000 rounds with no malfunctions.

I do clean it and such, I'm not saying 5,000 in one session - I mean during my ownership of it.
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