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Posted: 3/12/2005 3:32:46 PM EDT
Poll coming!

Link Posted: 3/12/2005 3:34:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/12/2005 3:34:39 PM EDT by TheRedHorseman]
ibtp

ETA: certainly not Arizona with our liberal uberdyke governor
Link Posted: 3/12/2005 3:34:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/12/2005 3:38:11 PM EDT by SubnetMask]
Wyoming for sure. And fix your thread title.


ETA: Oops. Now I see why you titled it that way. They're not aboloshing concealed carry, just the permits.
Link Posted: 3/12/2005 3:38:02 PM EDT
Of those on the list, I would guess Wyoming
Link Posted: 3/12/2005 3:39:23 PM EDT
Wyoming got close this year.



But the bill faltered.

CRC
Link Posted: 3/12/2005 4:17:48 PM EDT
Definitely not AZ - the bill that's in process is one that will allow a CCW permit for life and reduce the required 16 hours for the permit to 8 hours.
Link Posted: 3/12/2005 4:25:35 PM EDT
I haven't heard about such a bill in Virginia so I guess I'll vote for Wyoming.
Link Posted: 3/12/2005 4:31:44 PM EDT
NH was close.
Link Posted: 3/12/2005 5:44:49 PM EDT
Don't see it happening in Virginia- too close to the Capital. Montana or Wyoming would be my unqualified guess.
Link Posted: 3/12/2005 5:51:42 PM EDT
Wyoming would probably be the best guess for me
Link Posted: 3/12/2005 6:07:27 PM EDT
Happy to see VA had a well enough reputation to make it on the list... and it's well deserved for the most... we are a gun owner friendly state. However, we still have a large enough Northern VA liberals (although a minority) that tries to resist. We don't, for example, allow CCW in establishment that serve alcohol for on-premises consumption... although one may open carry in these establishments.

Without knowing any better, my vote went to WY.
Link Posted: 3/12/2005 6:07:56 PM EDT
Virginia just overturned many gun laws, hell we are more free now than most states.
Link Posted: 3/12/2005 6:09:38 PM EDT
Hmmm, are you saying that there's actually a state that abolished CCW? If so what state or states have done this?
Link Posted: 3/12/2005 6:14:32 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Yojimbo:
Hmmm, are you saying that there's actually a state that abolished CCW? If so what state or states have done this?


Mn. is making a go at retracting the "privledge"
Link Posted: 3/12/2005 6:17:51 PM EDT

Originally Posted By m-dc:
Mn. is making a go at retracting the "privledge"





I hope they fail big time!
Link Posted: 3/12/2005 6:22:56 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Yojimbo:

Hmmm, are you saying that there's actually a state that abolished CCW? If so what state or states have done this?




Alaska dumped it's CCW and went to Vermont style legal carry
Link Posted: 3/12/2005 6:24:37 PM EDT
SC might be next. Our pro-gun governor wasn't reelected, and the state police and a couple of the larger police departments are pushing hard to put an end to it. There are a couple of other things going on here that also make me worry.z
Link Posted: 3/12/2005 7:41:55 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Yojimbo:
Hmmm, are you saying that there's actually a state that abolished CCW? If so what state or states have done this?



You might be confused. They didn't abolish CCW, they abolished the permit. IE: No permit necessary. Alaska and Vermont are currently like this. If you're over 21, you can carry concealed.
Link Posted: 3/12/2005 7:43:49 PM EDT
This is the first I've heard of Virginia considering it.
Link Posted: 3/12/2005 7:45:37 PM EDT
Isn't the title the opposite of the poll question?
Link Posted: 3/12/2005 7:45:55 PM EDT
You scared me with that thread title.

Alacka abolished the need for a CCW but they still issue them for citizens traveling to other states.

I would guess Wyoming.
Link Posted: 3/12/2005 7:53:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/12/2005 7:55:22 PM EDT by rayra]

Originally Posted By CRC:
Poll coming!


I swear, sometimes we are our own worst enemy.





Watch that animated gif (and if anyone has an updated one, I'd like to know about it)
See how rapidly CCW has EXPANDED. Then wonder why folks like CRC are always posting negatives.



ETA - I see I read it wrong just like several others. Please unfuck the topic title.
Link Posted: 3/12/2005 7:54:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/12/2005 8:00:35 PM EDT by m-dc]

Originally Posted By Yojimbo:

Originally Posted By m-dc:
Mn. is making a go at retracting the "privledge"





I hope they fail big time!


Me too, those that have them now are OK for 5 years but those who didnt get them before this %$#@& judges injunction went through are stuck for now. Guess we will find out soon enough. Sorry dont have all the details.
Link Posted: 3/12/2005 7:58:44 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Yojimbo:
Hmmm, are you saying that there's actually a state that abolished CCW? If so what state or states have done this?



I too would like some more info on this -- once a right is granted it should be quite difficult to take it away
Link Posted: 3/12/2005 8:02:53 PM EDT
The only State I would see Abolishing CCW permits are those that somehow get paid for crimes.

CCW's Prevent crimes more than the police can even imagine doing so on their own.
Intresting little tidbit, Those with CCW's are les likely to commit crimes.

(RANT­)
I think my mayor is in conjuction with the mob.


He has so much corruption under him that the result cause deaths and injuries in multiple areas.

The mayor spends MILLIONS of tax dollars on public viewing crap.

He's a serous crime loving mayor, homosides are so rampid it's a daily news occurance. Gun related are atleast once a week.
He has laws enacted that prevent honist citizens from defending themselves.



---------------
Sory for my misspelled words
Link Posted: 3/12/2005 8:13:40 PM EDT

Originally Posted By rayra:

Originally Posted By CRC:
Poll coming!


I swear, sometimes we are our own worst enemy.


img.photobucket.com/albums/v95/rayra/politics/firearmsrighttocarrystates.gif


Watch that animated gif (and if anyone has an updated one, I'd like to know about it)
See how rapidly CCW has EXPANDED. Then wonder why folks like CRC are always posting negatives.



ETA - I see I read it wrong just like several others. Please unfuck the topic title.


thats even outdated Mo has CCW
Link Posted: 3/12/2005 8:27:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/12/2005 8:30:24 PM EDT by jeager001]
I don't see "shall issue" going away anytime soon in Montana. Either for good or bad.
Link Posted: 3/12/2005 8:40:44 PM EDT
Mi if GranHOLE is still allowed to be the govonor.
Link Posted: 3/14/2005 12:12:56 AM EDT

Originally Posted By fight4yourrights:

Originally Posted By Yojimbo:

Hmmm, are you saying that there's actually a state that abolished CCW? If so what state or states have done this?




Alaska dumped it's CCW and went to Vermont style legal carry

Stat wide true , but each county /city can over ride that by ordnance . Like what is maybe happeneing here . The only person that doess CCW classes is the biggest pusher for makeing it happen .
Link Posted: 3/14/2005 12:36:42 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/14/2005 12:38:33 AM EDT by TomJefferson]
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