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Posted: 9/19/2005 10:22:07 AM EDT
[#1]
I do believe the 82nd is more hardcore.
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Posted: 9/19/2005 10:23:04 AM EDT
[#2]
The Marines.
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Posted: 9/19/2005 10:23:08 AM EDT
[#3]
This should be entertaining...
SBG |
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Posted: 9/19/2005 10:23:40 AM EDT
[#4]
Yep. |
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Posted: 9/19/2005 10:23:47 AM EDT
[#5]
BOTH
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Posted: 9/19/2005 10:23:52 AM EDT
[#6]
US Army S.E.A.L.S
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Posted: 9/19/2005 10:24:16 AM EDT
[#7]
Here we go.
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Posted: 9/19/2005 10:24:52 AM EDT
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I thought SEALS were from the Navy National Guard? |
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Posted: 9/19/2005 10:25:27 AM EDT
[#9]
Nah, Air Force Coast Guard. |
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Posted: 9/19/2005 10:25:39 AM EDT
[#10]
82 is Airborne, 101 is air assault so different missions for different units.
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Posted: 9/19/2005 10:26:33 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/19/2005 10:26:39 AM EDT
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I thought they were sponsered by the Discovery channel. 101st has the 82nd beat on battle history, I have known plenty of people from both. I would say they are pretty equal. Most of the officers and senior NCOs have served in both. |
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Posted: 9/19/2005 10:28:30 AM EDT
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Better at what? Killing things? Insertions? Extractions? Not losing their colors to the enemy, twice? Macrame? Basket making?
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Posted: 9/19/2005 10:28:58 AM EDT
[#14]
If I were still in the Army and had orders for either unit, I'd consider myself lucky.
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Posted: 9/19/2005 10:29:56 AM EDT
[#15]
If someone hasn't jumped out of a plane, I don't think they are qualified to speak about either one. |
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Posted: 9/19/2005 10:31:39 AM EDT
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Does the parachute drop at 6 flags count? Uh, I mean, +1 |
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Posted: 9/19/2005 10:31:55 AM EDT
[#17]
The All-American Eighty-Deuce.
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Posted: 9/19/2005 10:36:00 AM EDT
[#18]
The wussiest 82nd or 101st Abn soldier is more hardcore than I have a prayer of being. That's all I know.
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Posted: 9/19/2005 10:36:22 AM EDT
[#19]
+1 |
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Posted: 9/19/2005 10:37:01 AM EDT
[#20]
LOL. |
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Posted: 9/19/2005 10:37:29 AM EDT
[#21]
I always get a kick when I see marines wearing ARMY jump wings.
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Posted: 9/19/2005 10:38:39 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/19/2005 10:49:44 AM EDT
[#23]
The 101st is 19 more than the 82nd.
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Posted: 9/19/2005 10:50:49 AM EDT
[#24]
My dad was an officer in the 101st. He told me a few tidbits and stories over the years before he passed. He said that the Wermarcht and SS were both scared shitless of the guys with eagles on their shoulderpatch and mohawks. They were told that the 101st would scalp and eat prisoners.
One nazi with all the hitler youth stuff apparently both pissed and shit himself standing when he realized he was the Prisoner of an American officer with the 101st who happened to be Jewish. |
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Posted: 9/19/2005 10:53:29 AM EDT
[#25]
Never heard of either one.
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Posted: 9/19/2005 10:54:59 AM EDT
[#26]
I think it's been established that they are the Air Force Coast Guard's Naval MP battalion. |
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Posted: 9/19/2005 10:55:47 AM EDT
[#27]
the difference? |
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Posted: 9/19/2005 10:56:49 AM EDT
[#28]
That's one of the "funnies" of WWII. Before we jumped on Normandy, the Germans told the French that the American soldiers would have mohawks and were coming to rape their women and steal their stuff. Lo and behold, the 101st decided it'd be fun to do mohawks before their jump. Total coincidence. |
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Posted: 9/19/2005 10:59:20 AM EDT
[#29]
Ft Bragg is much better duty than Ft Campbell.
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Posted: 9/19/2005 10:59:34 AM EDT
[#30]
I'm straining my brain here, but I think the birds are the C-130 for the 82nd and the UH-60 for the 101st, plus a handful of other helicopters in use by the 101st. |
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Posted: 9/19/2005 11:03:09 AM EDT
[#31]
I am friends with an elderly gentleman that was in the 82nd Airborne.
He jumped out of a plane over Normandy, France on D-Day so I'll ask him what he thinks.  I am glad they are both on my side!  BigDozer66 |
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Posted: 9/19/2005 11:03:13 AM EDT
[#32]
That's 19 MORE!! How can anyone argue with that. 101st wins by 19. This conversation, is over. 
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Posted: 9/19/2005 11:03:34 AM EDT
[#33]
Depends on mission and what you want to do.
The 82nd jumps out of planes- gets there via planes. The 101st rappels out of helicopters and lands on landing zones etc. They are both good units. One is Airborne, one is Air Assault- do both, go 82nd then after that go 101st. Go to Airborne school then go to an Airborne unit, do good and get an Air assault slot. |
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Posted: 9/19/2005 11:05:48 AM EDT
[#34]
101 really doas not jump out of helicopters-
Far and few in between. |
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Posted: 9/19/2005 11:08:14 AM EDT
[#35]
Having worked with both, I see little difference except 82nd guys are a little more arrogant.
I guess when your 19 less you have a chip on your shoulder........... 
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Posted: 9/19/2005 11:20:12 AM EDT
[#36]
When did you see Marines wearing Army jump wings? I was USAF and wore Army jump wings, but Marines wear these! 
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Posted: 9/19/2005 11:25:31 AM EDT
[#37]
Both are outstanding units. They are both equally good at what they do. But since we are picking favorites and since the 101st has a bit more history, I'll have to go with the in-state based 101st.
BTW, the 101st jumped outta planes too up until about 1968 when they assumed the organization and equipment of an air assault division. It's not that they were too good to jump outta planes anymore, it's just that they discovered helicopter insertion worked better. They are still plenty hard core. |
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Posted: 9/19/2005 11:27:34 AM EDT
[#38]
82nd has been around much longer but 101 has done some incredible things since its birth. They are two entirely different units. ! is Airborne he other is Both equally good IMHO. |
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Posted: 9/19/2005 11:27:45 AM EDT
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Tag for later. Gonna need popcorn and a sixpack for this one.
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Posted: 9/19/2005 11:30:11 AM EDT
[#40]
"Curahee"
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Posted: 9/19/2005 11:30:45 AM EDT
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No, Marines do wear silver wings as I recall in some circumstances. Recon guys wear the gold wings with the dive bubble, but having less than 10 jumps means you only rate the silver wings, something like that. Some Recon, ANGLICO or rigger guy help me out here... |
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Posted: 9/19/2005 11:30:59 AM EDT
[#42]
first rule of the 82nd and 101st is there is no 82nbd and 101st!
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Posted: 9/19/2005 11:31:22 AM EDT
[#43]
the 101st has more history? What did they do in WWI? Even though the 82nd wasnt airborne in WWI they were still the All Americans. |
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Posted: 9/19/2005 11:33:32 AM EDT
[#44]
The 101 has Bastogne and the Bulge. Tough to beat. |
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Posted: 9/19/2005 11:36:30 AM EDT
[#45]
Yeah, sometimes we go slumming. |
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Posted: 9/19/2005 11:38:08 AM EDT
[#46]
Yeah but we still get to claim Sgt York. ETA the only thing I would have had a problem with being stationed in the 101 is losing jump status. I did actually consider PCSing to their scout unit though. I can remember which one but I heard good things about it and they actually jumped still. |
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Posted: 9/19/2005 11:39:32 AM EDT
[#47]
That's not quite fair considering the 101st wasn't even activated until 1942. It's kinda hard to do something when you don't exist. I compare them from WWII to present. Afterall, the 82nd wasn't an airborne unit in WWI anyway. So comparing them from WWII on seems the best. Both divisions performed remarkably well in WW2, but I'd give the nod to the 101st. Afterall, it was the 101st's commanding general who gave the historic reply "Nuts!". That's gotta count for extra points. In Vietnam, the 101st was there for years, fighting in some of the most intense battles, such as at Hill 937 in the A Shau Valley. The 82nd only had one brigade in-country for a rather short period of time. So if everything is factored in, I would say the 101st does have a bit more history on their side if you view them both from WWII to present. That's not to say one is better than the other, just that the 101st had the more colorful history since their creation. |
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Posted: 9/19/2005 11:39:50 AM EDT
[#48]
I stand corrected. Thank you. After all, I got out of the service in 1968. Things have probably changed since then! |
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Posted: 9/19/2005 11:40:33 AM EDT
[#49]
Puking Buzzard +1 My Father retired from the 4-186th Does the 82nd have an Attack Helicopter BN. ? |
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Posted: 9/19/2005 11:41:09 AM EDT
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+1 I don't care if you're screamin' Eagle or 82nd...you jump? You have my respect AND admiration. Not everyone (incl. yours truly) is brave enuf to make that leap. Those who do ROCK regardless of which patch they wear! |
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