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Posted: 1/7/2006 7:42:45 AM EDT
I am a new recruit for a county agency. A dealer will be coming in next week with our choices of duty weapons. They are all sigs. The choices are P239, P229, and P226. I will probably go with the full size 226 due to the size of my hands. We also have the choice of getting the DAK trigger or the other triggers(not sure of the others). We can also choose to get the light rail or not.
So I should really ask if I want the DAK trigger and light rail or not?
Link Posted: 1/7/2006 8:23:03 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/7/2006 8:23:52 AM EDT by AZ-K9]
Why would you NOT choose the rail?

I prefer the 229R myself.....


AZ(stillamazedtherailisnotstandar­d)K9
Link Posted: 1/7/2006 8:24:11 AM EDT
DAK is on you, I prefer the SA/DA. And of course get the rail.

Also, a vote for the 226.
Link Posted: 1/7/2006 8:26:36 AM EDT
Well, I just got a P220 in blackened stainless, 45 ACP. It was done for LEO. Night sights & Hoage grips stock. Nice gun.

Get the P226 in 40 with rail, night sights and the Hoages. You will never look back. Make all the Glock shooters green with envy!
Link Posted: 1/7/2006 8:42:42 AM EDT
Get the 226 with the Rail.
Link Posted: 1/7/2006 8:52:38 AM EDT
Everyone around here hates the DAK (fron county SWAT guys to my Lt. armorer). Sig thinks its the greatest thing since sliced bread, and I agree with their thinking but shooting it is a different story. A rail is a must, and the 226 is what I have. Sweet shooter but would rather have it in .40. We are working on getting .40 cal. 229 with rails. The 239 is good for concealed carry but not for a daily duty weapon. Good luck, be safe.
Link Posted: 1/7/2006 8:53:51 AM EDT

Originally Posted By sniper1az:
Well, I just got a P220 in blackened stainless, 45 ACP. It was done for LEO. Night sights & Hoage grips stock.


Link Posted: 1/7/2006 11:14:05 AM EDT
What is the diffrence between the SA/DA and the DAK?
Link Posted: 1/7/2006 11:47:49 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/7/2006 10:21:08 PM EDT by ChrisLe]
My current duty weapon is a P229 in .357sig, and I can't say enough about it! I love it with a passion. Thousands of rounds through it and not one single failure! Its also a tack driver......

My only gripe, albeit a small one, is the fact that they are not conducive to lefties. Specifically decocking.
Link Posted: 1/7/2006 1:29:14 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/7/2006 1:33:59 PM EDT

Originally Posted By SHOOTIN4FUN:
What is the diffrence between the SA/DA and the DAK?



DAK is Sig's newer DAO type trigger. The idea is to lighten the DAO trigger enough to be more manageable and maintain a consistent trigger pull from round 1 till you're out. Basically, it's along the lines of competing with the Glock trigger and HK'S LEM trigger.
Link Posted: 1/7/2006 1:34:49 PM EDT
The way it was explained when I read about it the DAK gives you a surprise break every time to eliminate flinch.
Link Posted: 1/7/2006 3:03:50 PM EDT
I carry a 229R in 40S&W with night sights. It is an outstanding duty weapon. Also, mag capacity is the same in both the 226 and 229 in 40 cal.
Link Posted: 1/7/2006 3:08:22 PM EDT
Rail is a must, and night sites would be real nice. We have 229R in .40 cal.

We just went with Crimson Trace lasers, which are super comfortable. Nice gadget that has a distinctive compliance affect when strategically placed anywhere on a suspect.
Link Posted: 1/7/2006 4:34:14 PM EDT
SIG 229 in .40SW with the rail. Really don't see much of a disadvantage to getting a rail if it is available.
Might try out the DAK trigger because I like the HK LEM, but I'd want to try it before I'd say for sure. DA/SA works very well too.

The 229 is a very nice gun, if I were told I had to carry that weapon for duty I would have absolutely no problems with that.
Link Posted: 1/7/2006 4:45:16 PM EDT
226 with a rail.


Ask for a 220ST!
Link Posted: 1/7/2006 6:27:01 PM EDT
226R with DA/SA trigger. Get a 239 for off-duty.
Link Posted: 1/7/2006 9:39:16 PM EDT
My county issued gun is a P226R. I'm also allowed to carry my own P229R. Sigs are great guns.
Link Posted: 1/7/2006 10:27:34 PM EDT
229 in 357Sig
Link Posted: 1/8/2006 3:29:57 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Shrike9:
229 in 357Sig



+1
Link Posted: 1/8/2006 9:26:54 AM EDT
Duty - P226 .357 Sig, no rail, night sights, LaserMax, Hogue Wrap around grips - gun minus grips Dept issued.

Off-duty - P226R .40 S&W, night sights, CTC Grips - Personal
Concealed - P239 .357 Sig, night sights - Personal

All guns are DA/SA

239 is too small for duty - single stack mags, not enough ammo

I used a 9mm P229 in the academy and shot very well with it - I'm 6'4"/240 so the P226 w/Hogue grips fits my hand better.

Get a P226 with rails and night sights - end of story.

Brian
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 8:26:24 AM EDT

Originally Posted By sniper1az:
Well, I just got a P220 in blackened stainless, 45 ACP. It was done for LEO. Night sights & Hoage grips stock. Nice gun.

Get the P226 in 40 with rail, night sights and the Hoages. You will never look back. Make all the Glock shooters green with envy!



+1
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 8:35:14 AM EDT
Out of the choices available, I'd say either a 226 or 229 with rail. My personal pick would be a 220, but that's not available. I'm not sure if the 226 had short or long mainsprings like the 220. If it's got a short one, I would change it out to a long one. The reason I say this is because with short mainsprings you'll have a lighter pull in DA, but it'll stack up and have a sharper (slightly harder) break. The long mainspring has a heavier DA pull but it's consistent with a very crisp break. To me, it's more controllable and predictable. I shoot better with it, but your results may vary. MJD
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 10:01:53 AM EDT
My department issues the P229 and P226R in .40 S&W. The problem we had with the P229R (R = rails) is that there are very few duty holsters available and nearly non for the gun with the light attached. Our P229's are going to be slowly removed from patrol and given to admin / plain clothed officers. The P226R will ride patrol.
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 11:19:52 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/9/2006 11:20:23 AM EDT by justice23]
Love my 229 DA/SA with night sights. Very reliable. My agency won't order rails


Edit for spelling
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 4:37:43 PM EDT
Vote for P226 with the rail. See if you can't get night sights also. I personally like standard SA/DA. But for a Sig you deffinetly have to get a trigger job to lighten and smooth it up bit.
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 5:35:16 PM EDT
P226R in .357sig if they will let you use that round. SA/DA trigger. Anyway I have to carry a glock for duty but when I go to the range I love to shoot my Sig. If only they would let me carry it.
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 5:44:52 PM EDT


220, 226, 239 (left to right)

I say teh 220
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 12:34:20 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Shrike9:
229 in 357Sig



That's my duty gun (with a rail) by choice.
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 12:46:12 PM EDT
229 with rail for me
The 226 didn't fit my hand nearly as well
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 1:43:06 PM EDT
Thanks for all your input guys. I think I will go with the 226 with rail. I still dont know what trigger to get. I doubt they will let us fire them first and see how they feel.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 4:47:33 PM EDT
Don't get the DAK. Hell, I'm a tupperware shooter and even I prefer the SIG DA/SA to the DAK.

Is there a local rental type range you can go to and rent a few SIGs to try them out?

aa
Link Posted: 1/12/2006 1:48:48 PM EDT
There probably is but I dont have a bit of spare time to go. Being in the academy and all.
Link Posted: 1/12/2006 2:33:59 PM EDT
I'll throw in a vote for the standard DA/SA. I despise the DAK.
Link Posted: 1/13/2006 1:01:14 PM EDT
For the people who dont like the DAK. Why dont you like it? Why do you prefer the DA/SA.
And vice versa for those who like the DAK.
Link Posted: 1/13/2006 5:24:09 PM EDT
IMHO:

Sig double-action pull: pretty much what you'd expect for a double-action pull.

Sig DAK pull: very long, very "busy" with a "funny" reset and a higher force than a Glock (sorry for the lousy qualitative description but without one in front of me I can't be more detailed than that)

Glock pull: somewhere between a DAK and single-action

Sig single-action: pretty much what you'd expect for a single-action pull

In the grand scheme of things one of the stated advantages of a self-decocking trigger like the Glock or DAK is that you get the same trigger pull every time so training to accomodate the transition between DA and SA modes isn't necessary. The trade-off between the same DAK pull every time and having to transition between Sig DA to Sig SA isn't worth it given the feel of the DAK trigger.
Link Posted: 1/16/2006 5:27:19 AM EDT
So do you think a person with no experience with either sig trigger would notice a diffrence if I picked the DAK. Remember I would be training from the ground up with this weapon. The reason being I dont think I can get the 226R without the DAK.
Link Posted: 1/16/2006 7:42:37 AM EDT
I don't think if you've used either that you will know what is better for you until you get a chance to try them.
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 10:08:27 PM EDT
Demand a Sig GSR



Link Posted: 1/17/2006 10:37:27 PM EDT
da/sa for sure for duty use, forget the stupid dak trigger.
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 8:24:32 AM EDT
We carry the 229DAK. I like it alot.
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 10:14:57 AM EDT

Originally Posted By AWACER:
Everyone around here hates the DAK (fron county SWAT guys to my Lt. armorer). Sig thinks its the greatest thing since sliced bread, and I agree with their thinking but shooting it is a different story.



Our department did an extensive T&E of a 229R DAK. Everyone loved the trigger. Even some of our worst shooters did better with the DAK.

Mike
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 4:51:12 PM EDT
Sig Sauer P226R .40 cal
Link Posted: 1/29/2006 6:57:08 AM EDT
Thanks for all your input guys. The dealer was in on friday to measure us for our vests and brought in some sample Sigs. Our instructor (who is a Sig armorer among others) was really pushing for the DAK unless we had alot of experience with a DA/SA. Since I have very little handgun exp. I went with the DAK. Oh and its in a P226R .40 cal. The 229 was too short for my hand, my whole pinky hung over the bottom of the grip. The 239 was out of the question for duty. Now I have to decide what to get for off duty. I can have any of the 3 previous Sigs or a Glock 27. The 226 will probably be a little big for a good conceal.
Link Posted: 2/3/2006 8:51:21 AM EDT
Go with the 229 in 40cal for off duty/ concealed. im relitivly sure you can get a mag extender for it to deal with it being short for your hand.
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