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Posted: 8/14/2005 4:21:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/14/2005 4:21:26 PM EDT by senorFrog]
Based on many negative comments re the Walther P22 I decided to go for a Ruger instead. This will be for plinking, target practice & having fun. I'm in the MEDIEVAL Commonwealth of MASS, so the guns which I may purchase is severly limited.

However the following Rugers just became available for legal sale here. Based on that which would you choose & why?

Ruger P45GCMKIII 22LR


Ruger P4MKIII 22LR 4


Ruger MKIII6 22LR


KMKIII678H 22LR


Ruger MKIII678 22LR


Ruger KP512MKIII 22LR


Ruger KMKIII678GC 22LR


Ruger 512MKIII 22LR
Link Posted: 8/14/2005 4:24:48 PM EDT
Ruger MKIII678 22LR
Link Posted: 8/14/2005 4:26:20 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Burley:
Ruger MKIII678 22LR


Agreed.
Link Posted: 8/14/2005 4:26:44 PM EDT
Why buy a Ruger at all?

Link Posted: 8/14/2005 4:26:47 PM EDT
I have the KMK678GC and the 5.5 inch blued bull barrel


I find the 678GC is more accurate. It has the target crown and the trigger is lighter.

The 5.5 bull balaces a little better and does not have the thumbrest which lefties don;t like.


If I had to buy just one for pure target shooting it would be the KMK678GC

Link Posted: 8/14/2005 4:27:50 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Burley:
Ruger MKIII678 22LR




+1
Link Posted: 8/14/2005 4:28:04 PM EDT

Originally Posted By motown_steve:
Why buy a Ruger at all?




My choices are severly limited. I'm in MASS. Only place worse is komiefornia.
Link Posted: 8/14/2005 4:29:02 PM EDT
Hey your last pic is incorrect. Thats a 22/45 not a mkIII

I prefer MKIIs also.
Link Posted: 8/14/2005 4:29:15 PM EDT
PS - Can anyon e comments re the WHY?
Link Posted: 8/14/2005 4:30:03 PM EDT
Ruger KMKIII678GC 22LR

HH
Link Posted: 8/14/2005 4:30:39 PM EDT

Originally Posted By FredM:
Hey your last pic is incorrect. Thats a 22/45 not a mkIII

I prefer MKIIs also.



Thanks I pulled from another a local dealers website. I must have screwed up the images. I got em from right click > view source, then weeded through the HTML.
Link Posted: 8/14/2005 4:30:45 PM EDT
I didn;t know your choices were limited. Out of those get the 6 7/8" slabside.

Low weight but has a thumbrest and its pretty. Also has a better trigger than the others.
Link Posted: 8/14/2005 4:31:19 PM EDT

Originally Posted By senorFrog:
PS - Can anyon e comments re the WHY?



Because it is a great pistola.

Quite accurate. Fun to shoot.
Link Posted: 8/14/2005 4:32:14 PM EDT
any the stainless steel ones would be my choice
Link Posted: 8/14/2005 4:33:26 PM EDT
Ruger KP512MKIII 22LR
Link Posted: 8/14/2005 4:35:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/14/2005 4:35:51 PM EDT by hapjack]
I have shot both the 4" & 5-1/2" 22-45 and I like the balance of the 4" that's what I will buy when I'm ready.

Link Posted: 8/14/2005 4:36:24 PM EDT

Originally Posted By FredM:
I didn;t know your choices were limited.



The other day my buddy and I joined a local gun club. I'm a long time MASS resident, but's he's a transplant from the south. Only here two years. The club president said, "Why the hell did you move here!? We're all trying to get out."
Link Posted: 8/14/2005 4:36:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/14/2005 4:38:11 PM EDT by Rustygun]
Ruger MKIII6 22LR

Unless you can get the same gun in 4". The newer guns seem to have really bad triggers but that can be cured. I never liked the Ruger autos until my daughter shot one. It was the first auto pistol she ever shot. She lectured me all the way home that she never wanted to shoot a gun "you had to cock with your thumb" again. I bought a used 4" from a guy at work. Since then I shoot it more than anybody else and really enjoy it. I bought a used 6" one the other day and it is dead on. So is the 4" for that matter. Both are older first models. Around here short is good, light is good. A 6" gun is good on the range but no good in the field for a companion gun. YMMV
Link Posted: 8/14/2005 4:39:03 PM EDT

Originally Posted By AssaultRifler:
any the stainless steel ones would be my choice


It looks nice but I prefer blued because it has more of a subdued appearance.
Link Posted: 8/14/2005 4:40:20 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Rustygun:
Ruger MKIII6 22LR

Unless you can get the same gun in 4". The newer guns seem to have really bad triggers but that can be cured. I never liked the Ruger autos until my daughter shot one. It was the first auto pistol she ever shot. She lectured me all the way home that she never wanted to shoot a gun "you had to cock with your thumb" again. I bought a used 4" from a guy at work. Since then I shoot it more than anybody else and really enjoy it. I bought a used 6" one the other day and it is dead on. So is the 4" for that matter. Both are older first models. Around here short is good, light is good. A 6" gun is good on the range but no good in the field for a companion gun. YMMV



Yeah I bought my first one for my GF. I loved it so much I bought a few more. Steel plates + lots of mags + lots of ammo =
Link Posted: 8/14/2005 4:41:11 PM EDT

Originally Posted By HoustonHusker:
Ruger KMKIII678GC 22LR

HH



+1
Link Posted: 8/14/2005 4:41:31 PM EDT
A few years ago I too, was interested in a Ruger. Another member of this board posted a couple of .jpg's, which I found to be rather interesting. So, I opted to go along the same route, a couple of mods later and I have this abomination:



Ruger's are excellent little pea shooters. I have well over 45K through it and it is still very accurate.
Link Posted: 8/14/2005 4:45:12 PM EDT

Originally Posted By motown_steve:
Why buy a Ruger at all?




Why...affordable...reliable. Dont get me wrong, Bill was a sellout...but...


My personal why:
When I was a kid, at Christmas, my grandpa would take me out to shoot missletoe out of trees for grandma to decorate the house with. We used his ruger .22 pistol and a walther .22 rifle....The rifle proved more capable, but I always loved shooting that pistol.


-HS
Link Posted: 8/14/2005 4:45:55 PM EDT
Gun PORN!!!!!




My GF's arsenal.
Link Posted: 8/14/2005 4:46:46 PM EDT
It's one of the best .22LR pistols on the market.
Link Posted: 8/14/2005 4:50:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/14/2005 4:56:22 PM EDT by luger355]
if the ruger slabside is in your list of possibilitys.

may i suggest a S&W model 41


or the izh 35M?



IME both are capable of shooting circles around the slabside. Id be willing to bet that their both permited in your state too.
Link Posted: 8/14/2005 4:53:38 PM EDT

Originally Posted By adair_usmc:

Originally Posted By HoustonHusker:
Ruger KMKIII678GC 22LR

HH



+1



+2


Link Posted: 8/14/2005 5:00:50 PM EDT
Ruger 512MKIII 22LR
Link Posted: 8/14/2005 5:01:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/14/2005 5:04:50 PM EDT by NotMrWizard]
I went to purchase a Mark II 678, and ended up leaving with a Browning Buckmark. Just felt much more comfortable in my hand. Not sure if you are set on the Ruger expressly, but if not, you may want to look at one.

I've heard a lot of good about the Rugers, and almost nothing bad. About the only negative comment I hear is that reassembly is a bitch after tearing it down!

ETA: I'm really eyeballing the MKIII512 for my next .22 pistol. I gotta admit, they are a good-looking pistol!
Link Posted: 8/14/2005 5:02:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/14/2005 5:03:47 PM EDT by ScrubJ]

Originally Posted By HillBillySasquatch:

Originally Posted By motown_steve:
Why buy a Ruger at all?




Why...affordable...reliable. Dont get me wrong, Bill was a sellout...but...


My personal why:
When I was a kid, at Christmas, my grandpa would take me out to shoot missletoe out of trees for grandma to decorate the house with. We used his ruger .22 pistol and a walther .22 rifle....The rifle proved more capable, but I always loved shooting that pistol.

-HS



Wondered how long this would take. Bill was a sellout but Colt wasn't? Funny, ALL milspec parts fit MY AR15, how about your Colt?
Link Posted: 8/14/2005 5:03:27 PM EDT

Originally Posted By NotMrWizard:
I went to purchase a Mark II 678, and ended up leaving with a Browning Buckmark. Just felt much more comfortable in my hand. Not sure if you are set on the Ruger expressly, but if not, you may want to look at one.

I've heard a lot of good about the Rugers, and almost nothing bad. About the only negative comment I hear is that reassembly is a bitch after tearing it down!




They are not hard to field strip. You just have to know what you are doing.

I will agree the grip is a little different. So hold one before you decide.
Link Posted: 8/14/2005 5:13:22 PM EDT
10/22 FA trigger pack.
Link Posted: 8/14/2005 5:14:44 PM EDT

Originally Posted By luger355:
if the ruger slabside is in your list of possibilitys.
may i suggest a S&W model 41
www.muzzle.de/N2/CO2/Smith___Wesson_78_G___79_G/muzzle_SuW41_Vorbild.JPG

IME both are capable of shooting circles around the slabside. Id be willing to bet that their both permited in your state too.



I have a 41 too, both barrels, one with a red-dot. It seems I usually shoot one of the 2 Ruger slabsides I have more.

Never seriously tested either with dozens of different brands of ammo to see which would group best. But with bulk-box ammo, the Rugers shoot just as good as the 41, for me.
ymmv



Link Posted: 8/14/2005 5:15:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/14/2005 5:21:14 PM EDT by SatelliteMan]

Originally Posted By MachinegunManiac:

Originally Posted By Burley:
Ruger MKIII678 22LR


Agreed.



What they said, if you must buy Ruger.

Does Taxxachusetts not allow Browning Buckmarks? I like my Ruger' (bought before I got edumacated on Bill's politics) , But love my Buckmark's.

Mags for the Browning cost more, about $28 vs. about $18 for the Ruger MKII's. Don't know if the MkIII's use the same mag's or not.
Link Posted: 8/14/2005 5:18:47 PM EDT
IMHO, Browning Buckmark Bullseye. You wont want ot shoot another ruger again.
CH
Link Posted: 8/14/2005 5:21:16 PM EDT

Originally Posted By SatelliteMan:

Originally Posted By MachinegunManiac:

Originally Posted By Burley:
Ruger MKIII678 22LR


Agreed.



What they said, if you must buy Ruger.

Does Taxxachusetts not allow Browning Buckmarks?




Don't think so. I'll ask.

This state SUCKS! My senior senator is an alcoholic drunk driving murderer and my junior senator is an effing kommie who gave mouth-to-mouth to a hampster.
Link Posted: 8/14/2005 5:37:37 PM EDT
Ruger MKIII678 22LR
Link Posted: 8/14/2005 5:42:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/14/2005 5:43:21 PM EDT by Max_Mike]

Originally Posted By RSF45:

Originally Posted By adair_usmc:

Originally Posted By HoustonHusker:
Ruger KMKIII678GC 22LR

HH



+1



+2





+3

I had a MKII like it and got rid of it... I don't know why I loved the pistol.
Link Posted: 8/14/2005 5:48:13 PM EDT
KMKIII678H 22LR... Rugers are very good pistols.......You will be happy with your purchase.. WarDawg
Link Posted: 8/14/2005 5:55:16 PM EDT
"No honest person needs no more than a 10 round magazine" I wonder who said that just to get better sales for his mini-14. Dont get a Ruger.
Link Posted: 8/14/2005 6:18:51 PM EDT
I have a 22/45 with 4" bull barrel (round, not the "slab side"), target model with adjustable sights. It's perfect for all around use, suprisingly accurate even though it's a 4" barrel. MUST use CCI mini-mag ammo though, otherwise it will stovepipe every now and then. I've got 1000's of mini-mag rounds through it and never had a single misfeed, stovepipe, etc.
Link Posted: 8/14/2005 6:28:35 PM EDT
Ruger KMKIII678GC 22LR

just 'cause it looks the nicest.
~Dg84
Link Posted: 8/14/2005 6:41:52 PM EDT
I can +1 the Ruger KMKIII678GC 22LR - sweet shooting, very accurate out of the box, but a bit heavy.

If you want to work one over you can get very, very good performance without spending too much. If I were to do that, I'd go with the 4 to 5 1/2 in. barrels. Length is really unecessary to obtain good accuracy with the right barrel and trigger combo...

Try here for more info: Rimfire Central

Whatever you do, don't look at the 10/22 pics!
Link Posted: 8/14/2005 8:37:43 PM EDT
My Ruger, late 80's vintage:

Link Posted: 8/14/2005 8:58:14 PM EDT
+1 Buckmark.
Link Posted: 8/14/2005 10:39:26 PM EDT
If I was to be in the market for a 22 pistol and I couldn't talk my brother out of his High Standard, and if I got a Ruger I'ld look at the ones that match up the 1911 handle geometry. I happen to like that over the more angled pistol handle geometry.

I would get the Ruger P45GCMKIII 22LR, preferrably a stainless version if they made it, but that's because I have access to a really nice High Standard if I wanted to do some serious targetting, if I wanted it for the equivalent of a kit gun to throw in my fishing bag or day pack or ?? this one has the less snaggy sights etc.
Link Posted: 8/14/2005 10:49:20 PM EDT
Do they make any without the magazine disconnects? MkIII series?
Link Posted: 8/14/2005 10:52:09 PM EDT
Ruger KMKIII678GC 22LR
Link Posted: 8/14/2005 10:52:40 PM EDT

Originally Posted By leelaw:
Do they make any without the magazine disconnects? MkIII series?



MKII do not have it. You can still get them.
Link Posted: 8/15/2005 12:55:54 AM EDT

Originally Posted By BillofRights:
+1 Buckmark.



+2
Link Posted: 8/15/2005 11:18:49 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/15/2005 11:20:59 AM EDT by Jon3]
I had a KMKII678H 22LR.

A couple of points about the rugers:

Bitch to takedown and clean (not that .22 needs a huge amount of that).
The holes for the grip screws are extremely easy to strip. They really should have been reinforced.
It sure is one heavy pistol.

I have a Sig Trailside (I got before they dropped the hammer) that I love, one of the few in MA.

I've been considering awarding ruger a few dollars for coming up with an MA compliant version though.

Might try that fluted version.

BTW, you can get new S&W Model 41s now here legally too.
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