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Posted: 10/3/2004 5:34:48 AM EST
As a do-it-all rifle, for plinking, SHTF, target shooting and home defense rifle, which set up do you like the most.

20" flat-top
20" A2 sights
16" flat-top
16" A2 sights
M-4 style?
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 5:36:12 AM EST
20" flat-top for me.
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 5:36:45 AM EST
16" flat top hbar.
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 5:37:47 AM EST
20" flat top with carrying handle attached.
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 5:44:40 AM EST
m4, then midlength, then dissipator...
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 5:45:41 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/3/2004 5:46:06 AM EST by BB]
16" Government Profile Flat-top with BUIS
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 5:46:10 AM EST
Needs a Poll


16" A2 and 20" SP1
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 5:47:43 AM EST
M4
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 5:49:40 AM EST
If I could only have one, it would be a 20" flat top.
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 5:50:43 AM EST

Originally Posted By BB:
16" Government Profile Flat-top with BUIS



+1

Link Posted: 10/3/2004 5:50:52 AM EST
20" A4 with a A2 carry handle
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 5:51:30 AM EST
Home Defense? 14.5" M4gery with Eotech.
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 5:57:36 AM EST
16" A2 with optic mounted of the FF rail.
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 5:59:23 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/3/2004 6:03:20 AM EST by vito113]
I've got a 20" AR15A2 withAimpoint CompM… but I'm getting it converted to a XM177/Commando Spec 12" barrel, and telestock.

Want it stumpy and compact like this one……



Andy
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 6:00:16 AM EST
A-2 Dissipator.
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 6:04:26 AM EST
M4...
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 6:17:56 AM EST
My AR originally came with a 20" A2 HBAR upper then I bought a flattop receiver which was going to get a 14 1/2" but ended up with a 20" gov. profile. Both are 1/7 twist.

The plan now is to get another lower,collapsible stock,and then either swap out the gov barrel for a M4 type or just ante up for another complete upper! I've seen a CAR type stock with a 20" barrel but it looks like it would be front heavy.
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 6:22:48 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 6:26:02 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/3/2004 9:28:48 AM EST by Dave_A]

Originally Posted By VTHOKIESHOOTER:
As a do-it-all rifle, for plinking, SHTF, target shooting and home defense rifle, which set up do you like the most.

20" flat-top
20" A2 sights
16" flat-top
16" A2 sights
M-4 style?



For personal use? 20" A2. I *cannot* justify spending what Trijicon wants for an ACOG on a scope, and I'm not a fan of red-dots for a rifle that allready has good sights...

What do I think is the ideal 'issue' military weapon? 20" A4 with ACOG

The M4 is great for tankers & other vehicle crews, SF, and the sort of rear-area folks who would have gotten a M1 carbine in WWII, but the full-length rifle is a better front-line weapon... There's no reason for a short barrel & collapsable stock anywhere else, and BOTH are detrimental to accuracy potential...

There is a REASON we have A2 sights, they are vastly improved over the old A1 variety when it comes to hitting targets at longer ranges...

Oh, and on a flattop, I'll take a carry handle over fancy flip-up 'BUIS' any day... Need that windage & elevation adjustment, a/o the crude adjustments on most 'flip-up' sights... Although I think they do make a standard A2 sight with W/E mounted on a rail-attatching 'pedastal' for BUIS use... That would work too...
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 6:29:12 AM EST
I've got both the 20" A2 and 16" A2 so that's what I currently prefer.
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 6:29:13 AM EST
SP-1 20"
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 6:29:22 AM EST

Originally Posted By gus:
If I could only have one, it would be a 20" flat top.



+1
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 6:33:53 AM EST
20" A2
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 6:36:32 AM EST
16" A1
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 6:39:00 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/3/2004 6:43:29 AM EST by GaryM]
20" Standard A2 rifle. longer range, solid reliable sights.
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 7:35:15 AM EST
M4 w/ACOG TAO1NSN
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 7:36:09 AM EST
M4
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 8:40:20 AM EST
20" flattop with carry handle...
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 8:41:30 AM EST
16", 1/9 HBAR, A1 sights and a CAR collapsible stock.

The HBAR maybe alittle heavier but it should take more abuse.

IMHO, I think that's the best all around useful combination.

Colt_SBR
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 8:49:53 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/3/2004 11:38:49 AM EST by EricE]
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 8:51:39 AM EST

Originally Posted By Colt_SBR:
16", 1/9 HBAR, A1 sights and a CAR collapsible stock.

The HBAR maybe alittle heavier but it should take more abuse.

IMHO, I think that's the best all around useful combination.

Colt_SBR



That's the setup I had. I traded the HBAR for a Bushy light weight bbl. I liked the HBAR, but I wanted "evil" features.
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 8:52:20 AM EST
M4
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 8:53:08 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 8:59:00 AM EST
16 or 20" a2
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 9:01:54 AM EST
If I could only have one, and no accesories, tele-stock on a 20" with and A2 upper.
Only one with accessories, make the above a flat-top and add an ACOG a rail system and a sure fire.
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 9:41:31 AM EST

Originally Posted By dport:

Originally Posted By Colt_SBR:
16", 1/9 HBAR, A1 sights and a CAR collapsible stock.

The HBAR maybe alittle heavier but it should take more abuse.

IMHO, I think that's the best all around useful combination.

Colt_SBR



That's the setup I had. I traded the HBAR for a Bushy light weight bbl. I liked the HBAR, but I wanted "evil" features.



I've got a Post-ban Bushmaster 16" HBAR, A1 upper with an A1 stock.

I'm looking around for a collapsible stock to make it right. Been looking around for a "name brand" CAR stock without alot of luck. Alot of cheep stocks out there but I can't put a cheep stock on a fine carbine. I'm also going to have the barrel threaded for a three prong FH.

Then it’ll be finished. I really don’t need a bayonet lug (although I would like one).

Colt_SBR

Link Posted: 10/3/2004 9:43:52 AM EST

Originally Posted By -Duke-Nukem-:

Originally Posted By BB:
16" Government Profile Flat-top with BUIS



+1

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+2

But, I also have an EO-Tech on mine...
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 9:49:51 AM EST
M4
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 9:50:45 AM EST

Which AR platform to you prefer?


A4, 14 - 16" in the 7.62 x 51 variety.
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 9:54:43 AM EST
M4

I have no use for longer range shots from a puny round like the 5.56. If I want/need longer range punch I'll use a rifle that fires a real bullet. The 5.56 is good for up close IMHO. At distance I'll take a battle rifle like the FAL or M14.
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 11:27:34 AM EST

Originally Posted By Colt_SBR:

Originally Posted By dport:

Originally Posted By Colt_SBR:
16", 1/9 HBAR, A1 sights and a CAR collapsible stock.

The HBAR maybe alittle heavier but it should take more abuse.

IMHO, I think that's the best all around useful combination.

Colt_SBR



That's the setup I had. I traded the HBAR for a Bushy light weight bbl. I liked the HBAR, but I wanted "evil" features.



I've got a Post-ban Bushmaster 16" HBAR, A1 upper with an A1 stock.

I'm looking around for a collapsible stock to make it right. Been looking around for a "name brand" CAR stock without alot of luck. Alot of cheep stocks out there but I can't put a cheep stock on a fine carbine. I'm also going to have the barrel threaded for a three prong FH.

Then it’ll be finished. I really don’t need a bayonet lug (although I would like one).

Colt_SBR



I got a 4 pos. RRA stock from Adco for my XM15E2S, that I'm pleased with.
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 11:34:22 AM EST

Originally Posted By Strats:
20" flat-top for me.



thats what i have
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 11:38:44 AM EST

Originally Posted By EricE:
20" flattop with carry handle & collapsible stock. Looks a little different, but it is the shiznit!


I have to agree. Put a VLTOR on my 20" after the ban just for the time being, got to say I like it a lot.

Canadians knew what they were doing...
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 11:43:00 AM EST
I'd have to say my 20" A2.
Course, It has a match trigger, sights, and a free float tube, and weights a ton, but It is reliable and extremely accurate.
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 11:43:28 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 11:47:23 AM EST
There is no such thing as a do it all. Get 2 of each.
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 12:34:23 PM EST

Originally Posted By mejames:
There is no such thing as a do it all. Get 2 of each.



Actually I disagree.

In my opinion the ideal jack-of-all-trades AR would be as follows

18" govt profile barrel w/ M4 feedramps
Gem Tech bi-lock flash suppressor
mid-length gas system
Larue 12" free float tube
ACOG TA31
Larue ACOG QD mount
Troy rail mount front sight
ARMS #40L rear sight
Magpul 93A stock
Magpul Modular pistol grip
Tango Down vert foregrip
PRI gasbuster charging handle
standard Colt bolt/carrier

Surefire Millenium M96

Unfortunately the barrel is not made to my knowledge. But I think that would just about do it if you were only to have one rifle.
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 1:12:16 PM EST

Originally Posted By norman74:

Originally Posted By mejames:
There is no such thing as a do it all. Get 2 of each.



Actually I disagree.

In my opinion the ideal jack-of-all-trades AR would be as follows

18" govt profile barrel w/ M4 feedramps

Unfortunately the barrel is not made to my knowledge. But I think that would just about do it if you were only to have one rifle.


Mongo posted a pick in another thread of a colt 20" bbl with M4 feedramps that had not yet been drilled for a gas port, and had an odd profile, but was still heavy.
A little lathe time, and you'd be there.
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 1:47:48 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/3/2004 1:48:26 PM EST by norman74]

Originally Posted By Stryfe:

Mongo posted a pick in another thread of a colt 20" bbl with M4 feedramps that had not yet been drilled for a gas port, and had an odd profile, but was still heavy.
A little lathe time, and you'd be there.



I think there are companies that will custom make what I want. Unfortunately I think it'd also be rather expensive. However, with all the other high dollar parts in my list, I'm not sure that it'd be the killer.

18" govt profile barrel w/ M4 feedramps
mid-length gas system
Gem Tech bi-lock flash suppressor $85
Larue 12" free float tube $300
ACOG TA31 $1000
Larue ACOG QD mount $125
Troy rail mount front sight $120
ARMS #40L rear sight $110
Magpul 93A stock $225
Magpul Modular pistol grip $100
Tango Down vert foregrip $60
PRI gasbuster charging handle $90
standard Colt bolt/carrier $180

That's $2400, plus you still need a lower, and upper, and the internals for each, so figure another $300 on top of that. Now you've got yourself a $2700 rifle.
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 3:16:58 PM EST
24" SS bull barrel, harris bipod, scope.

I'll hide in the closet when the SHTF.
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 3:29:48 PM EST
See my signature line....
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