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Posted: 8/22/2017 3:19:13 PM EDT
Near the top? Bottom?
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 3:25:02 PM EDT
no poll? I'd say with 22T debt we're pretty high on the corruptness scale. That's not just the government and politicians either if there wasn't a certain high percentage of avarice in the general populace the politicians would never be able to buy votes with welfare handouts.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 3:27:17 PM EDT
tough question.

I'd say we're middle of the road.  Maybe towards the top with first world countries.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 3:27:51 PM EDT
India is the most corrupt democracy in the world.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 3:29:34 PM EDT
Depends on who you ask and how much is known or not known

Take Obama's government for instance...
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 3:30:05 PM EDT
Can't answer until they investigate Pizzagate.  
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 3:44:03 PM EDT
Honestly, we won't ever know.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 3:53:16 PM EDT
Right now I'd say we're not on the list. We own it.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 3:59:10 PM EDT
I don't have a computer monitor big enough to see how far down that list we are.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 4:04:06 PM EDT
Some of you need to get overseas more
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 4:07:31 PM EDT
The USA is the 6-7 least corrupt country.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 4:11:52 PM EDT
In $$ cost to citizens?


In "we murder you when you make us angry"?

Around 87.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 4:13:54 PM EDT
How obvious do you like your corruption? If you like really obvious corruption to the point of needing to keep cash on hand for bribes, we are pretty low on that list. If you like more discreet corruption then we start to climb that list.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 4:14:00 PM EDT
15th best according to this

Link Posted: 8/22/2017 4:15:16 PM EDT
Attachment Attached File

Just start with the tax code, and go from there.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 4:17:05 PM EDT
1. All government is corrupt. This is why limited government is best government.
2. People from other countries look at our government as naive because we can't hang in terms of corruption with their country.

Of course our government is a pit of snakes, but it's not even close to the scope of other countries. We're not even as corrupt as FIFA.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 4:17:06 PM EDT
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By what yardstick though? Are we talking local Sheriff's Deputy in Wyoming, or a Federal Senator?
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 4:21:16 PM EDT
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Right now I'd say we're not on the list. We own it.
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Link Posted: 8/22/2017 4:22:45 PM EDT
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 4:24:58 PM EDT
This is like asking how much AIDS somebody has compared to everyone else with AIDS.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 4:35:41 PM EDT
It depends on what you use to measure.

Retail corruption?  US is one of the least corrupt countries in the world. Almost everywhere else, except Canada and certain parts of western Europe, retail bribes of police and local bureaucrats are simply the way things are done.  Yes, it does happen here, and when people get caught, it makes news. South of the Rio Grande, South of the Alps, East of the Oder River, and west of the Sea of Japan? It's like speeding - technically a crime, but only enforced for reasons other than stopping the crime.

Influence peddling/corporate influence?  Much more prevalent than retail corruption, but the same caveat - EVERY OTHER COUNTRY works closely with, and has a tight relationship with, it's domestic corporations. Germany treats Siemens special because, well, Siemens is German. In the US we must treat all companies the same, so GE should get bupkiss.  When they don't, it makes news.

Foreign Corrupt Practices Act:  This ones a winner.  We are the only country that prosecutes people for actions that are *legal* in other countries.

One reason we seem corrupt when we look at ourselves is that we expect so much more from ourselves and our government. I think in general that's a good thing.  But the risk is that, with so many high horses being ridden, it only takes a few to fall beforer a moral panic ensues and we start making even more bad law.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 4:40:36 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/22/2017 4:47:49 PM EDT
Our politicians and our media are owned by the same people.  Free speech is demonized, and politicians don't speak without running their statements through a focus group.  Politicians openly and legally accept bribes and participate in insider trading.

You can have cash stolen from you on the highway under color of law in order to supposedly prevent others from possessing drugs. On the other hand, you can't bribe the police here, although they do play political favorites as seen recently.

Our high-level non elected politicians are also often corrupt, as SOS Hillary Clinton sold some of our strategic uranium to the Russians.  Literally sold them in exchange for payment made to her "charity."

They sneak illegals into the country and encourage them to vote in elections.  They take your money by force and give it to those same illegals, as well as our own domestic shitbirds.

Our politicians don't commit pogroms or try to assassinate one another either.  This may be more due to the fact that they all play for the same team, but it may be a sign we aren't as corrupt as we could be.

So let's look at corruption on a scale, starting with the least corrupt:

1. Camelot (King Arthur)
2.  Sealand (assuming it's even still a nation)
5.  Colonial British America
8.  Modern America
10. Mexico, Honduras, etc.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 5:02:56 PM EDT
It's a different type of corruption here than in countries without elected officials.  Here, politicians mask their illegal and unethical practices as much as possible so they can continue their insider trading and influence peddling.  They learn to be skilled liars and talk a good game to curry favor with the voters while they have an agenda to profit from their position. That agenda often results in actions that are not in the best interest with what's best for this country and it's people.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 5:10:34 PM EDT
We're corrupt. We just sweep it under the table.

In some countries you flat out know how much of bribe it is. In the US you have to do campaign donations, donate to charities, 3rd Party groups, etc.... makes accounting hard. Plus paying the lobbyists. 

In Latin America you just pay the local strong man and get one with your life. 
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 5:14:54 PM EDT
Ask that prosecutor that just washed up suicided.....
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 5:40:51 PM EDT
I'm convinced that half the population (democrats), our education system and our media are corrupt as hell.

I don't know where that corruption ranks in world but it ranks pretty high in my mind.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 5:41:34 PM EDT
There are third world countries in which the brutality of corruption is unsurpassed, that being said it is a whole lot easier to be corrupt in a third world country.

Being corrupt in a top tier first world nation is a whole other ball game and the US federal government on a corruption monetary scale is off the freaking charts, on a political power scale off the freaking charts, virtually every department in every branch is oozing with it; from the buying and selling of congressmen who the will of the people has no meaning, to corporate welfare, to the mass importation of third world migrants for political gain and cheap labor, to our welfare system that is designed be feeding tube of tax dollars for corporate America to gorge on while intentionally oppressing a segment of society for political gain, to our justice system that would rather pervert law that adjudicate it, and rule using case law rather then the constitution, to our public school system that is a full blown mind control operation, to a NSA that spies on everyone, and a political party that uses that classified data, vote fraud and a sundry of other means to rig elections at every level, I could go on and on!

The US government, and not just at the federal level has to be without a doubt the worlds most corrupt.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 5:45:32 PM EDT
Growing closer to the top on a daily basis .
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 6:39:53 PM EDT
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 6:53:27 PM EDT
Pay to play courtesy of Herr Hitlery
Backscanner machines at airport courtesy of Michael Chertoff
Who gives orders to the FDA?
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 6:54:22 PM EDT
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We are so corrupt as a country that there are legal ways to funnel money into the bank accounts of politicians and their families. You can't give money to a politician for favors but you can give all the money you want to a politician's foundation and the money goes to the same place as if you dropped a bag of cash on their desk.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 7:14:43 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/22/2017 7:24:28 PM EDT
The whole world is depraved and irredeemably corrupt the USA is one of the better countries in the world regardless of what the media wants everyone to believe...
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 7:30:33 PM EDT
NY beats the nation at this game, think Chicago on a grander scale. As I'll Duce has stated to his advisors and close confidants " there will be no APPEARANCE of impropriety"

I.e. Don't get caught
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 7:31:16 PM EDT
We are more advanced.  Crony capitalists steal legally. Politicians exempt themselves from insider trading.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 7:32:23 PM EDT
The ridiculous amount of power the president wields means he can achieve ridiculous amounts of corruption, therefore we are number one.

Look what the dicksucker Obama did for Hillary, for example.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 7:38:22 PM EDT
We have the most laws and the most monitoring.  I would be willing to get that other countries get away with a lot worse.
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