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Posted: 7/18/2008 1:01:50 PM EST
I am having trouble getting a quality enlargement to 20X30 from a slide. I don't understand what's so hard about this? I just got a lab that sent it blurry. It looked horrible. I asked and they said that they just can it.

Where can I get a good lab? St. Louis or anywere in North America. I just want this done.
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 1:20:33 PM EST

Originally Posted By Penguin_101:
I am having trouble getting a quality enlargement to 20X30 from a slide. I don't understand what's so hard about this? I just got a lab that sent it blurry. It looked horrible. I asked and they said that they just can it.

Where can I get a good lab? St. Louis or anywere in North America. I just want this done.


20x30 is a tall order from a 35mm slide. Yeah, but that's quite an enlargement from a small source.

Probably your best bet is westcoast imaging. I have had good luck with them previously.
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 2:00:51 PM EST
20x30 is an enormous enlargement from a 35mm slide.
What you are seeing is probably magnification of blur in the shot compounded by enlarged film grain.

My suggestion would be to settle for a smaller print or pony up big dough for a custom lab to do a print or digitaly enhance your slide.
It will be custom printed by a human and not machine processed.
You will pay for this personal attention.

A big city lab can handle this and yes we're talking L.A., NYC or a similar market.
You can also try calling Kodak.
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 3:34:18 PM EST

Originally Posted By ColonelHurtz:
20x30 is an enormous enlargement from a 35mm slide.
What you are seeing is probably magnification of blur in the shot compounded by enlarged film grain.

My suggestion would be to settle for a smaller print or pony up big dough for a custom lab to do a print or digitaly enhance your slide.
It will be custom printed by a human and not machine processed.
You will pay for this personal attention.

A big city lab can handle this and yes we're talking L.A., NYC or a similar market.
You can also try calling Kodak.


I think I will call Kodak. The print that they made was horrible. Even the manager said so when he saw it. I realize that it is a major enlargement, but I have seen it done better from a digital picture at the same size.
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 4:42:32 PM EST
Digital is a different game.
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 4:49:18 PM EST
[Last Edit: 7/18/2008 4:50:48 PM EST by Taffy223]
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 4:52:36 PM EST
[Last Edit: 7/18/2008 4:53:52 PM EST by ColonelHurtz]

Originally Posted By Taffy223:
www.zeek.net/i/dragon.jpg


Dolarhyde is that you?

(BTW he worked in a motion picture film lab)
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 6:08:23 PM EST
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 8:38:18 PM EST

Originally Posted By Phil_in_Seattle:
At 20"x30" print size from a 35mm if you can't see the film grain clearly on the enlargement edge to edge then it isn't as sharp as it could be.

I'd offer to do it for you but I'm not working at the lab anymore and the bag of special tricks that I had developed for using those scanners left with me. You can't stuff years of hands on experience into some hours of training.


The print that they made was horrible. Even the manager said so when he saw it. I realize that it is a major enlargement, but I have seen it done better from a digital picture at the same size.


If the manager agreed didn't they suggest doing it over or did they say that was as good as they do?



They said that is as good as it gets. At least they were honest and didn't string me along again.

I called Pacific Color today asking for you only to find out you left. Hopefully you moved on to bigger and better things! Would you suggest sending it there or is there another place you suggest?
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 9:19:39 PM EST
Link Posted: 7/19/2008 6:51:14 AM EST

Originally Posted By Phil_in_Seattle:
We'll have to see if I go somewhere bigger and better; I was laid off my last day was June 30th. www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=121&t=725251
I did sub contract there last week filling in while the guy who had to take over film processing was on vacation.

A couple of things I saw going on after the recent changes make me say do not send a one of a kind irreplaceable piece of film there until they get it straightened out. When/if they get squared away it should be fine.

If you can get a good scan made something around 4000x6000 (20x30@200DPI) you can send the file on CD or use online ordering like ROES to anyplace you'd like.

Depending on the dynamic range of your image you may want two or three scans made and use them to make a composite image for printing (One of those tricks that won't get done there anymore unless the customer pays for a huge upcharge and even then it will be done begrudgingly)


Wow - sorry to hear that. I will just keep searching for someone to do it.
Link Posted: 7/19/2008 8:42:05 AM EST
I would start by getting it digital and go from there

you should have no trouble getting to 20x30
Link Posted: 7/19/2008 9:59:29 AM EST

Originally Posted By ColonelHurtz:

Originally Posted By Taffy223:
www.zeek.net/i/dragon.jpg


Dolarhyde is that you?

(BTW he worked in a motion picture film lab)


I thought he did both....
Link Posted: 7/19/2008 11:16:57 AM EST

Originally Posted By NoVaGator:
I would start by getting it digital and go from there

you should have no trouble getting to 20x30


Well I have the picture that I took digitally. I just always thought that slide was better because it held more detail. Here is the digital picture that I took with the Canon 30D 17-40L @17

Link Posted: 7/19/2008 1:00:44 PM EST
is 1600 x 1066 the original size?
Link Posted: 7/19/2008 4:10:22 PM EST

Originally Posted By NoVaGator:
is 1600 x 1066 the original size?


No I put it in TinyPic because I am lazy.
Link Posted: 7/19/2008 4:17:29 PM EST
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