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Posted: 10/27/2006 8:04:35 AM EST
I've been hunting hard for a job for about a month now. I put in for the position I really, really wanted about two weeks ago and haven't heard anything from the company. I've called their HR people twice, once a week after I submitted my package and again at the two week mark. Left messages both times, niether returned. The only thing making me want to call again is that I also called twice with questions on the position before I submitted my res, and no one ever returned my call.

So how long before you give up? A week after submitting your res and hearing nothing? Two? Not until someone actually tells you "NO!" and then answers your questions as to "Why not?"?
Link Posted: 10/27/2006 8:06:38 AM EST
depends on industry and size of company.

what kind of job?
Link Posted: 10/27/2006 8:14:04 AM EST
I have people calling me about jobs i put in for two months ago. Sorry already found a new job.
Link Posted: 10/27/2006 8:17:45 AM EST
Are you going to try companies one at a time? Or did you submit a resume to multiple companies? I would keep on looking and trying at as many other companies as possible, and if this one you want doesn't respond by the time you have another good offer, let it go.
Link Posted: 10/27/2006 8:20:49 AM EST
patience or persistence, your choice.
Link Posted: 10/27/2006 8:26:38 AM EST
I give up on them as soon as I submit the resume.

Should I hear back, nice surprise!
Link Posted: 10/27/2006 8:28:43 AM EST
You have to have more than one or even two prospects going at the same time. Consider each employment opportunity to be just like a sales call. You make the call and then move on to the next call. You check back in the few days if you haven't heard from them. Always have your eye on the "next" job even if you are employed. A job can end at any minute.
Link Posted: 10/27/2006 8:29:29 AM EST
I've gotten rejection letters months after my interview.

Oh really, no shit? They hired someone else? It's only been half a fuckin' year you dipshits. Thanks for letting me know though, really.
Link Posted: 10/27/2006 8:31:10 AM EST

Not until someone actually tells you "NO!" and then answers your questions as to "Why not?"


Never quit.
Link Posted: 10/27/2006 8:44:02 AM EST

Originally Posted By efpeter:

Not until someone actually tells you "NO!" and then answers your questions as to "Why not?"


Never quit.

I got a cease and desist letter from a big company.

I was perfectly qualified for the job. Sent in a resume.
Heard nothing.
Emailed, and heard nothing.
Called them, heard nothing.
Spoke to HR a few times, and was repeatedly told they were reviewing my resume.
I waited a week in between each call, so it wasn't as if I was being a huge ass.

Finally I got a letter from someone higher than human resources
telling me that I needed to stop contacting them, and any further
contact would result in me not being considered for any future position.

At that point, I realized I didn't want to work for a company like that.

Link Posted: 10/27/2006 11:56:23 PM EST
In a perfect world (from the HR point of view) you will never be told why not. Because that generally brings a whole bunch of but you never asked, I can do that, etc etc calls and hassles from a disappointed seeker. Some of those may be right but after the manager has finally made up their mind, not a whole lot HR can do about it. Also, most of the time a seeker may know why afer the interview.

that said, when I was consulting for one company, I had one manager that kept changing his mind about what he wanted, and then I'ld try to set-up interviews, and then he'ld go on trips, and then the candidates would be gone, and then it was my fault that all the guys he was trying to set up interviews with wre gone. And after interviews he took up to a month to make up his mind. And then he had a lower salary expectation for what he wanted to pay. I showed him all the surveys, noted that the guys who had worked for him all went for significant increases. I worked on him for 7 months and he never made a hire, I sw their in-house recruiter at job fairs after that and he finally filled the position a year and a half after it opened.

So the delay may or may not be anything about you, you might be running into a manager and system that is to slow. An old rule of thumb was that if you didn't get called within two weeks to a month after submitting on a advertisement, you probably weren't making the cut. This assumes that HR gets responses checked and submitted in a timely manner, the manager reviews in a timely manner and they get the word to HR to get the interview set up in a timely manner.

You factor in HR delays, Manager Delays, and over a month is not unusual.

If a person called me when I was a recruited and they were a definite non-fit, and didn't meet the ad requirements, I would tell them. "Not going to happen, you don't have xxx" If there was a chance that there might be future interest, I'ld let them know that we would keep them active, but the vagaries of an opening coming up were iffy. If they were a good potential fit, I'ld ask them to re-submit every 4-6 months, under that their current resume would be good enough in the system, after that getting a fresh one would move it to the top of the stack. (Depends on the retrieval system used).

If it was never going to happen, for example, a non-citizen sociology major was never going to get into Hughes. One, we were an engineering company, and as a non-citizen you couldn't get a clearance.

For example, if you are looking to be a CFO or CEO those openings come few and far between, looking for an entry engineer at Boeing, they probably have whole shitpot full most of the time somewhere.

So with respect to your specific situation, you need to examine it. Are they advertising, are they advertising alot, and are you a good fit? If yes, then hang in there, it's likely a slow system. We actually had a guy that submitted every week for two years at Hughes, and he was an engineer, but kind of over qualified, and he wanted to let usknow he was still available. Nice guy, a bit of a pain in the butt about it, but not annoying like some, we finally found a position and he got hired and we threw him a lunch. He was a specialist and the opening just took a long time to pop open.
Link Posted: 10/28/2006 6:24:28 PM EST
I used to call the general manager of one company every week, EXACTLY at 11:00 am on the same day.

Noone in the industry was hiring, but he finally hired me over the phone.

I never made it to work there, long story.

OK, short version. The guy they wanted to surprise replace was usually the guy who answered the phone when the GM and mill superintendant were out. I told him I was supposed to fly out there for this certain job, and heard "Who are you. Never heard of you. Go away." I heard that several times. Too bad, no local office away from the job site.

Years later, I told this story to a couple ex-employees, one that mill superintendant, and they put 2 and 2 together.

Bottom line, screw it and make a pest of yourself. Drop every name you can think of. That is how I got this job.
Link Posted: 10/28/2006 6:26:02 PM EST
I've gotten calls back from potential employers I don't even remember applying for. Job hunting is a full time job, 7 am till dinner time.
Link Posted: 10/28/2006 6:30:37 PM EST
The company I work for now waited FOUR weeks after my second interview to offer me the job.
Link Posted: 10/28/2006 8:51:56 PM EST
Keep looking and don't wait around not working thinking you are going to be called.

The job I have now, I was already hired in the interview, and then was sent over to a secretary to fill out an application. "This fellow is going to work for us. Give him and application and all of the new hire paperwork."
Link Posted: 10/28/2006 8:58:42 PM EST
Different companies have different schedules.... as do different hiring managers. Sometimes the position you applied for is funded - and sometimes it is a candidate search in advance. I would always be developing back-up employers and interviewing with them. Many things can go wrong in the hiring process - including you not being the candidate they are looking for at the time.
Link Posted: 10/28/2006 8:39:02 PM EST
Persistence and being seen. Find a name beside the HR paper mover.

Make a point of putting your resume in the hand of the person you will be supervised by. Meet them at a restaurant "accidentally" dressed one level up from the job you want, resume in a soft sided bag, with other papers, you are on your way to another interview.....etc, etc.

Some thing to stand out from the stack of 150 resumes that have been turned in for that job. Are you the MOST qualified? If you don't know for sure you need to do something, not being a pesky or strange just some sort of meeting face to face. Chamber of commerence meeting, golf course, fishing, trip, hard ware store. Do some recon find out who you need to know/ meet. And accidentally met them.

Good luck. Now go out and make some luck!!
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