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Posted: 8/10/2014 8:23:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/10/2014 8:32:47 PM EDT by Medicfrost]
Link Posted: 8/10/2014 8:42:31 PM EDT
I'll take when upfitters figure out battery isolators for $200.

Police cars are the most unreliable starting pieces of shit ever.

I learned many years ago working on heavy trucks that if it can be left on it will be left on so put it on an ignition activated relay or solenoid that turns it off when the ignition is off.

Police departments are opposed to this, and low bid upfitters refuse to do this, it doesn't take long for a camera system, a tracking system or two, two flashlight chargers, a laptop dock and harddrive, possibly a radio or two, random added interior lights, exterior lights, a cell phone or two, a radar gun, a GPS nav unit, and sometimes for no reason the ignition being left on with the engine off, to kill a battery, do it a handful of times and it won't hold a charge at all.
Link Posted: 8/10/2014 8:54:15 PM EDT
Don't know what the unit was ,most PV-1 s had a device to keep the the vehicle from being put into gear .
Link Posted: 8/10/2014 8:56:51 PM EDT
Never unless you want a dead battery
Link Posted: 8/10/2014 8:59:43 PM EDT


Never. I need 12 hour AC standing by and ready.

I also always use my clicker.







cheers,

Link Posted: 8/10/2014 9:00:14 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Itracc:
Don't know what the unit was ,most PV-1 s had a device to keep the the vehicle from being put into gear .
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This would make the most sense.

I understand why they leave them running, though.
Link Posted: 8/10/2014 9:06:48 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Itracc:
Don't know what the unit was ,most PV-1 s had a device to keep the the vehicle from being put into gear .
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It's an aftermarket accessory. I think it's called Park - kill or something. I always shut the car off if I'm away from it unless a dire situation. I don't want to be "that guy" that loses the car. Tard I work with though leaves it running all the time, even when he's in the station for an hour, AND leaves the parking lights on to advertise it's free for the taking.


Protip: a pair of handcuffs securing the steering wheel to the spotlight grip assembly in just the right way makes for a nice impromptu steering wheel lock.
Link Posted: 8/10/2014 9:06:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/10/2014 9:16:44 PM EDT by Tim_the_enchanter]
Link Posted: 8/10/2014 9:09:01 PM EDT
Ignition interlock button. Problem solved.
Link Posted: 8/11/2014 4:53:56 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/11/2014 4:54:17 AM EDT by Medicfrost]
reminds me of the opening scene of Mad Max.


Link Posted: 8/11/2014 4:54:57 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/11/2014 4:55:30 AM EDT by TacticalHeater]
When will criminals stop stealing and touching shit that isn't theirs? Why stop something that law abiding people do when you can rather punish and set an example out of the scumbags?


Besides, probably one of the worst cars to steal is a cop car... you will be found in minutes.
Link Posted: 8/11/2014 4:55:31 AM EDT
Link Posted: 8/11/2014 5:06:10 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By cruze5:
the same thing for ambulance drivers
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I agree. Lock the doors morons.
Link Posted: 8/11/2014 5:06:41 AM EDT
I am required to leave the key in the ignition at work depdning on where I go. Never had my truck stolen and nobody I know has either, but everyone around there is working which probably makes a huge difference.
Link Posted: 8/11/2014 5:10:27 AM EDT
This is ARFCOM GD where if you suggest that you should close your garage door at night to avoid thefts, you will be scoffed at with such statements as "I shouldn't have to close my doors or lock them. criminals shouldn't take what isn't theirs!!!"
Link Posted: 8/11/2014 5:12:25 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Alpha82:
I'll take when upfitters figure out battery isolators for $200.

Police cars are the most unreliable starting pieces of shit ever.

I learned many years ago working on heavy trucks that if it can be left on it will be left on so put it on an ignition activated relay or solenoid that turns it off when the ignition is off.

Police departments are opposed to this, and low bid upfitters refuse to do this, it doesn't take long for a camera system, a tracking system or two, two flashlight chargers, a laptop dock and harddrive, possibly a radio or two, random added interior lights, exterior lights, a cell phone or two, a radar gun, a GPS nav unit, and sometimes for no reason the ignition being left on with the engine off, to kill a battery, do it a handful of times and it won't hold a charge at all.
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But I don't like cops and I want to complain about them
Link Posted: 8/11/2014 5:14:31 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By ttushooter:
This is ARFCOM GD where if you suggest that you should close your garage door at night to avoid thefts, you will be scoffed at with such statements as "I shouldn't have to close my doors or lock them. criminals shouldn't take what isn't theirs!!!"
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I worked extra duty last night at a theater. I walked around the parking lot. Tons of purses and laptops on car seats everywhere. Thank god they got a window stopping crooks.
Link Posted: 8/11/2014 5:25:37 AM EDT
The anti-theft devices on our patrol vehicles are named after a certain officer after something similar happened.

Always lock your door.
Link Posted: 8/11/2014 5:26:11 AM EDT
The cops in a nearby city started an awereness program earlier this year to help people remember to lock thier car. They stuck giant warnings under thier windshield wiper at the mall etc...that the car was unlocked. You know what's worse than an unlocked car. An unlocked car at a shopping area with a giant sticker on the windshield pointing out from several hundred yards away that the car is unlocked.
Link Posted: 8/11/2014 5:37:15 AM EDT
We always turned ours off.
If it didn't start when we got back we'd just have another car push us back to the precinct.
Link Posted: 8/11/2014 5:42:18 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By milkman110:
I always shut the car off if I'm away from it unless a dire situation.
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This. I never left the keys in the car.
Link Posted: 8/11/2014 5:48:50 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/11/2014 5:50:56 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Medicfrost:



I agree. Lock the doors morons.
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Originally Posted By Medicfrost:
Originally Posted By cruze5:
the same thing for ambulance drivers



I agree. Lock the doors morons.

Our policy calls for someone to stay in sight of the vehicles on a call and the medic units have power locks that secure all of the doors and compartments. They get used regularly.
Link Posted: 8/11/2014 6:14:26 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Medicfrost:
When will cops stop leaving their keys in the ignition
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As soon as they get rid of all the equipment like cameras, light bars, computers, etc.
Link Posted: 8/11/2014 6:15:50 AM EDT
How about an APU?
Link Posted: 8/11/2014 6:21:11 AM EDT
Cops should secure their shit.

Hopefully the car will be in evidence until the trial, and that cop will just have to walk a beat in the meantime.
Link Posted: 8/11/2014 6:36:48 AM EDT
Originally Posted By pokey074:
Originally Posted By Medicfrost:
When will cops stop leaving their keys in the ignition
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As soon as they get rid of all the equipment like cameras, light bars, computers, etc.
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I had a light bar, a computer, and a plate camera system and I turned my car off all the time.
Link Posted: 8/11/2014 6:37:21 AM EDT
When donut shops have drive thru windows?
Link Posted: 8/11/2014 6:37:42 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By efpeter:
Cops should secure their shit.

Hopefully the car will be in evidence until the trial, and that cop will just have to walk a beat in the meantime.
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That car is totaled.
Link Posted: 8/11/2014 6:42:44 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Extorris:

I had a light bar, a computer, and a plate camera system and I turned my car off all the time.
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Originally Posted By Extorris:
Originally Posted By pokey074:
Originally Posted By Medicfrost:
When will cops stop leaving their keys in the ignition

As soon as they get rid of all the equipment like cameras, light bars, computers, etc.

I had a light bar, a computer, and a plate camera system and I turned my car off all the time.

Well you ARE from NYC and eleventy billion backup cars.
Link Posted: 8/11/2014 6:46:04 AM EDT
That's why you have two keys.



As for the APU, You have an admin that wants you to re-use the seat cushions and window glass from wrecked cars. . APU's are not even in the same universe.


War story time. There have been more city buses stolen than cop or ambulance vehicles here. Ever been in a (kinda sorta) pursuit with a city bus? It's the most boring thing you have ever done.
Link Posted: 8/11/2014 6:47:44 AM EDT
Push button ignition start and keyfob that stays in the pocket.
Lock the door on the way out and come back to the nice A/C
Link Posted: 8/11/2014 6:47:47 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By John-in-austin:
War story time. There have been more city buses stolen than cop or ambulance vehicles here. Ever been in a (kinda sorta) pursuit with a city bus? It's the most boring thing you have ever done.
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They had a 16 year old take a suway train here. They didn't know he wasn't a motorman for hours. He only got caught because he tripped the emergency brakes taking a curve too fast. Keron Thomas
Link Posted: 8/11/2014 6:54:48 AM EDT
So I got home from work one day, and there is a sheriffs deputy car in my driveway, door open and engine running.

The wife is at the door and says the officer is next door about 75 yards away, talking to the neighbors about a stolen bike that our daughter and their daughter had seen, and they knew who stole it.

So since the door was open I took a inside. Nice 12 ga pump mounted in a quick release bracket up above the windshield.

Reckless Endangerment comes to mind.





Link Posted: 8/11/2014 6:56:48 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By MSC:
So I got home from work one day, and there is a sheriffs deputy car in my driveway, door open and engine running.

The wife is at the door and says the officer is next door about 75 yards away, talking to the neighbors about a stolen bike that our daughter and their daughter had seen, and they knew who stole it.

So since the door was open I took a inside. Nice 12 ga pump mounted in a quick release bracket up above the windshield.

Reckless Endangerment comes to mind.





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Try and figure out the button combination for that quick release bracket.
Link Posted: 8/11/2014 6:59:12 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Extorris:

They had a 16 year old take a suway train here. They didn't know he wasn't a motorman for hours. He only got caught because he tripped the emergency brakes taking a curve too fast. Keron Thomas
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Originally Posted By Extorris:
Originally Posted By John-in-austin:
War story time. There have been more city buses stolen than cop or ambulance vehicles here. Ever been in a (kinda sorta) pursuit with a city bus? It's the most boring thing you have ever done.

They had a 16 year old take a suway train here. They didn't know he wasn't a motorman for hours. He only got caught because he tripped the emergency brakes taking a curve too fast. Keron Thomas



One enterprising homeless guy here was collecting fares and picking up passengers. Then there is the guy that stole a metro shuttle. (think a little streetcar type of sort bus) and was entertaining hookers in the back.
Link Posted: 8/11/2014 7:35:53 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By John-in-austin:



Try and figure out the button combination for that quick release bracket.
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Originally Posted By John-in-austin:
Originally Posted By MSC:
So I got home from work one day, and there is a sheriffs deputy car in my driveway, door open and engine running.

The wife is at the door and says the officer is next door about 75 yards away, talking to the neighbors about a stolen bike that our daughter and their daughter had seen, and they knew who stole it.

So since the door was open I took a inside. Nice 12 ga pump mounted in a quick release bracket up above the windshield.

Reckless Endangerment comes to mind.








Try and figure out the button combination for that quick release bracket.


Well, I guess a popo would never even consider that leaving a vehicle running, with the door open, around children, could be dangerous.


Link Posted: 8/11/2014 7:43:51 AM EDT
When I was on patrol, my car stayed on for the entire shift. Just had my clicker. Also had an extra door key in my pocket. Never had any problems in 90,000 miles
Link Posted: 8/11/2014 9:24:22 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By MSC:


Well, I guess a popo would never even consider that leaving a vehicle running, with the door open, around children, could be dangerous.


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Originally Posted By MSC:
Originally Posted By John-in-austin:
Originally Posted By MSC:
So I got home from work one day, and there is a sheriffs deputy car in my driveway, door open and engine running.

The wife is at the door and says the officer is next door about 75 yards away, talking to the neighbors about a stolen bike that our daughter and their daughter had seen, and they knew who stole it.

So since the door was open I took a inside. Nice 12 ga pump mounted in a quick release bracket up above the windshield.

Reckless Endangerment comes to mind.








Try and figure out the button combination for that quick release bracket.


Well, I guess a popo would never even consider that leaving a vehicle running, with the door open, around children, could be dangerous.



There is a law against that?
Link Posted: 8/11/2014 9:40:03 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Extorris:

They had a 16 year old take a suway train here. They didn't know he wasn't a motorman for hours. He only got caught because he tripped the emergency brakes taking a curve too fast. Keron Thomas
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Originally Posted By Extorris:
Originally Posted By John-in-austin:
War story time. There have been more city buses stolen than cop or ambulance vehicles here. Ever been in a (kinda sorta) pursuit with a city bus? It's the most boring thing you have ever done.

They had a 16 year old take a suway train here. They didn't know he wasn't a motorman for hours. He only got caught because he tripped the emergency brakes taking a curve too fast. Keron Thomas

I'd be more worried about the subway union than the cops if I was him.
Link Posted: 8/11/2014 9:41:46 AM EDT
I do because in some cars if you turn the car off your MDT goes down because the batteries are shot
That's what spare keys are for, so you can lock a door and leave the car running
Link Posted: 8/11/2014 9:44:57 AM EDT
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