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Posted: 6/16/2009 7:32:49 AM EST
What is the tipping point? The takeover of banks, industry,a television network, food supplies?

Link Posted: 6/16/2009 7:34:31 AM EST
When enough average people are affected personally.
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 7:35:42 AM EST
Originally Posted By Lonestar45:
When enough average people are affected personally.


...and here's your answer. I don't what else to add.
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 7:36:30 AM EST
American Idol cancelled...



That happens look out!
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 7:37:22 AM EST
You can only watch state approved tv comrade .
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 7:38:34 AM EST
I think we have already passed the enough point. What we need now is a catalyst, we need to get into the streets, July 4th should be a national day of protests. Shut down the fireworks, disrupt government funded activities, be a pain in other words.

Do we need a militia forum, req. ARFCOM loadouts, physical conditioning, rally points?
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 7:39:47 AM EST

When FOX goes off the air.
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 7:47:38 AM EST
[Last Edit: 6/16/2009 7:49:42 AM EST by dazeke352]
He was taught by his preacher for 20 years that this America is bad and it needs to be ripped down and started again from the beginning.
There's your answer
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 7:53:27 AM EST
When they demand registration, surrender or of my firearms. That is when the civil disobedience begins for me.
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 7:55:08 AM EST
When they come knocking, kindly asking for your guns..
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 7:59:46 AM EST

When enough peoples' unemployment benefits run out?!
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 8:01:21 AM EST
Like mentioned above, only when the sheeple feel they are adversly effected. The sheeple can put up with alot more than most people think. they have been brainwashed for so long that as long as they can get to work, get thier starbucks and watch american idol, they have nothing to worry about. the sad part is that those of us that know better are labeled as domestic terrorists and painted in that light so the sheeple follow what the mass media tells them is correct and we (the non brain washed folk) are looked down upon as "those people".

The sheep will be so indoctrinated into the liberal policies that they wont even know that they are loosing everything until its to late.

The liberals are the king when it comes to boiling frogs.
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 8:08:33 AM EST
"Enough" is never going to happen.
The majority in this country like how things are going.
Look at the Holocaust. Most Jews, and Germans for that matter, didn't do jack. Hell, they went willingly to their deaths.
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 8:26:34 AM EST
when those that know nothing but the government teat are suddenly cut off, when the welfare checks don't arrive on time; or the EBT (food stamps) card isn't replenished, then it will begin. they will come looking for what I have, but they will not get it.
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 9:02:25 AM EST
Originally Posted By GRUMPY61:
when those that know nothing but the government teat are suddenly cut off, when the welfare checks don't arrive on time; or the EBT (food stamps) card isn't replenished, then it will begin. they will come looking for what I have, but they will not get it.


^ This is the answer.... Simple as that. I'm not a tinfoil type but I do know that when the natives get restless, bad things happen.
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 9:10:37 AM EST
We reached the tipping point over 40 years ago when they delared "War on Poverty" and there was no longer any incentive to work to better your condition.

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Link Posted: 6/16/2009 9:41:23 AM EST
Next big thing will be the .gov will try to do away with your 401K and stick in into a nationwide pension fund or just take your 401K and stick it in social security #2, trust me, .gov is pissed with how much money people have tied up in 401Ks that they can't get to...
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 9:45:03 AM EST
Three meals, my friend. Three meals.
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 9:47:12 AM EST
Originally Posted By Shooter42:
Next big thing will be the .gov will try to do away with your 401K and stick in into a nationwide pension fund or just take your 401K and stick it in social security #2, trust me, .gov is pissed with how much money people have tied up in 401Ks that they can't get to...


My mom called me up freaking out about this the other day, and I completly hear her point. She paid into it her whole life and now that she is getting close to retirement, it might not even be there. She normally is quiet and reserved but I think she was ready to choke slam someone about this. That leads me to believe that truly will be the tipping point.

Link Posted: 6/16/2009 9:59:39 AM EST
[Last Edit: 6/16/2009 10:04:47 AM EST by douglasmorris99]
Guns or AMMO taxes or lack of availibility, meah,,only 30% really cares, if that. rest are oblivious

churches getting closed for being out spoken against the Secular Messiah in DC.

a conservative voice being taken out or taken to jail or dying under mysterious circumstances, rush, hanity, beck etc.

any of the conservative talkers besides Savage, gets the IRS or HS or FBI on thier ass and up thier skirts, maybe,,

Shuting down of Fox News due to their UN TRUTH in reporting the news..

all obama all the time hits Non Cable news grandma cant watch her soaps with her rabbit ears but only gets Disinformaton more than half the day,,sort of like ABC shortly.

the taxation starts to hit and people realize just what all this bullshit costs. Remember many of these new things wont start until next year. by 2011, business will start to close, taxes on Joe Sixpack will start to rise,,cap and trade fees will hit EVERYONE with at least $150 a month in thier electric bills, Gas Bills and or FueL taxes in cars and trucks.

IF Govt Health care passes and becomes reality and Mrs Qpublic gets this from her Doctor..

sorry, your not gonna get heart meds anymore, you continue to smoke and drink, and you havnt lost any of the 20lbs I told you you have to lose 3 months ago.
so, we cant affored to enable your habits and keep you healthy, good bye..


someone speaking out, from "main street" then obviously being shut down or put under a microscope by A State entity or the MEDIA or the IRS, sort of like Joe the Plumber

some state government really begins to fail, like Mich or NY or CALI...AND some endangered minnow takes priorty to water over FOOD GROWERS in California,,,oh wait....
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 10:08:46 AM EST
Originally Posted By douglasmorris99:
churches getting closed

a conservative voice being taken out or taken to jail or dying under mysterious circumstances, rush, hanity, beck etc.

any of the conservative talkers besides Savage, gets the IRS or HS or FBI on thier ass and up thier skirts, maybe,,

Shuting down of Fox News due to their UN TRUTH in reporting the news..

all obama all the time hits Non Cable news grandma cant watch her soaps with her rabbit ears but only gets Disinformaton more than half the day,,sort of like ABC shortly.

the taxation starts to hit and people realize just what all this bullshit costs. Remember many of these new things wont start until next year. by 2011, business will start to close, taxes on Joe Sixpack will start to rise,,cap and trade fees will hit EVERYONE with at least $150 a month in thier electric bills, Gas Bills and or FueL taxes in cars and trucks.

IF Govt Health care passes and becomes reality and Mrs Qpublic gets this from her Doctor..

sorry, your gont gonna get heart meds anymore, you continue to smoke and drink, and you havnt lost any of the 20lbs I told you you have to lose 3 months ago.
so, we cant affored to enable your habits and keep you healthy, good bye..


someone speaking out, from "main street" then obviously being shut down or put under a microscope by the IRS
AMMO taxes or lack of availibility, meah,,only 30% really cares, it that. rest are oblivious

some state government really begins to fail, like Mich or NY or CALI...AND some endangered minnow takes priorty to water over FOOD GROWERS in California,,,oh wait....


While many/most of these SHOULD be tipping points, I'll bet that each and every one of them could happen simultaneously and we STILL will not get off our collective asses.

There will be a flash point - the question is will there be a critical mass that develops behind it and builds momentum regionally and even nationally?

You can bet that if things get out of hand here like in Iran now or France a couple years ago, the government will up the ante many times over to demonize the 'far right elements' - I would be surprised if we maintained uninterrupted access to internet/e-mail, GPS and/or cell phones. These technologies can be used to organize resistance and spread truth and as result they must be controlled in a government vs the people scenario.

I'm guessing that there will be several flash points in the months ahead - question is will the response be a rallying cry or a whimper?
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 10:10:58 AM EST
Probably registration / confiscation.
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 10:14:17 AM EST
I think we need to get a permit to rebel, or maybe a license. And we need to find a rebel leader with experience in rebelling too.
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 10:14:44 AM EST
Originally Posted By macman37:
Probably registration / confiscation.


Prolly this.


Link Posted: 6/16/2009 10:17:08 AM EST
how about this scenario


November 2 2010

an attack on a Major City or Port or Airport by al Quida

november 3 2010

Obama, fully supported by the democratic Congress anounces the cancelation of the Election under the War Powers Act for the duration of the continuing conflict with Radical Elements with in the MIDDLE EAST...



time to water the Liberty Tree?
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 10:17:45 AM EST
Originally Posted By Lacoochee:
I think we have already passed the enough point. What we need now is a catalyst, we need to get into the streets, July 4th should be a national day of protests. Shut down the fireworks, disrupt government funded activities, be a pain in other words.

Do we need a militia forum, req. ARFCOM loadouts, physical conditioning, rally points?


But the 4th of July was founded on beer, TV, cookouts, and fireworks wasn't it? Why would we do something like fight for freedom on this day.

-X
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 10:18:55 AM EST
When the military supports you.
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 10:24:25 AM EST
Originally Posted By Mcboogles:
Originally Posted By Shooter42:
Next big thing will be the .gov will try to do away with your 401K and stick in into a nationwide pension fund or just take your 401K and stick it in social security #2, trust me, .gov is pissed with how much money people have tied up in 401Ks that they can't get to...


My mom called me up freaking out about this the other day, and I completly hear her point. She paid into it her whole life and now that she is getting close to retirement, it might not even be there. She normally is quiet and reserved but I think she was ready to choke slam someone about this. That leads me to believe that truly will be the tipping point.



Your mom may be the exception but generally speaking the baby boomers ruined this country. They won't have the gall to reach any sort of tipping point.
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 10:25:52 AM EST
Originally Posted By yekimak:
I think we need to get a permit to rebel, or maybe a license. And we need to find a rebel leader with experience in rebelling too.


And this rebel leader needs to be union certified.

Link Posted: 6/16/2009 10:28:46 AM EST
Originally Posted By Lacoochee:
Do we need a militia forum, req. ARFCOM loadouts, physical conditioning, rally points?


That could never come back to bite us...
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 10:31:29 AM EST
Originally Posted By hubcityraider:
Originally Posted By Mcboogles:
Originally Posted By Shooter42:
Next big thing will be the .gov will try to do away with your 401K and stick in into a nationwide pension fund or just take your 401K and stick it in social security #2, trust me, .gov is pissed with how much money people have tied up in 401Ks that they can't get to...


My mom called me up freaking out about this the other day, and I completly hear her point. She paid into it her whole life and now that she is getting close to retirement, it might not even be there. She normally is quiet and reserved but I think she was ready to choke slam someone about this. That leads me to believe that truly will be the tipping point.



Your mom may be the exception but generally speaking the baby boomers ruined this country. They won't have the gall to reach any sort of tipping point.


Oh boy, now you've done it. So are you old as dirt or young and ignorant? I personally am young and ignorant but I know two things.

1. You take away my retirment I worked my whole life for, I'm going to be pissed to the point of ultimate destruction

2. There are baby boomers on this board



Link Posted: 6/16/2009 10:51:59 AM EST
Originally Posted By 1Bigdog:
When the military supports you.


Link Posted: 6/16/2009 10:53:01 AM EST
Originally Posted By Mcboogles:
Originally Posted By hubcityraider:
Originally Posted By Mcboogles:
Originally Posted By Shooter42:
Next big thing will be the .gov will try to do away with your 401K and stick in into a nationwide pension fund or just take your 401K and stick it in social security #2, trust me, .gov is pissed with how much money people have tied up in 401Ks that they can't get to...


My mom called me up freaking out about this the other day, and I completly hear her point. She paid into it her whole life and now that she is getting close to retirement, it might not even be there. She normally is quiet and reserved but I think she was ready to choke slam someone about this. That leads me to believe that truly will be the tipping point.



Your mom may be the exception but generally speaking the baby boomers ruined this country. They won't have the gall to reach any sort of tipping point.


Oh boy, now you've done it. So are you old as dirt or young and ignorant? I personally am young and ignorant but I know two things.

1. You take away my retirment I worked my whole life for, I'm going to be pissed to the point of ultimate destruction

2. There are baby boomers on this board





I'd like to speak up about #2.

The 60's-70's radical leftists now teaching kids in colleges, the ones in politics, the ones in the bureaucracy everywhere are a minority. I guess some of them actually worked for the communists or were trained by them secretly (how is that for McCarthy-era tinfoil?) sort of like some of the "manchurian candidates" we've seen popping up now.

However, there is a majority of those baby boomers who produced more innovations and advances in science, technology and did things like fought in Vietnam and other areas

––those baby boomers who by and large are all we have left of what little experience and knowledge is left from better days, those people who actually learned how to think in schools across this nation, those All American baby boomers, might be all that stand between us and total collapse (when things do indeed, collapse)

Those same baby boomers who like any group of people, are divided equally as any other age group is

–– some being sensible conservatives and others being hippies, or yuppies who are worthless.

–– I don't think it's fair to lump them all together is my point.

They might have not taken a stand but they will be the pillar upon which our country is rebuilt.

Thank You.




Link Posted: 6/16/2009 10:58:01 AM EST
[Last Edit: 6/16/2009 10:58:42 AM EST by tommo0]
When prices and taxes skyrocket there will be a negative reaction! Also the next major Islamic terror attack on U.S. soil.
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 10:58:35 AM EST
Originally Posted By Terminus:
Originally Posted By Mcboogles:
Originally Posted By hubcityraider:
Originally Posted By Mcboogles:
Originally Posted By Shooter42:
Next big thing will be the .gov will try to do away with your 401K and stick in into a nationwide pension fund or just take your 401K and stick it in social security #2, trust me, .gov is pissed with how much money people have tied up in 401Ks that they can't get to...


My mom called me up freaking out about this the other day, and I completly hear her point. She paid into it her whole life and now that she is getting close to retirement, it might not even be there. She normally is quiet and reserved but I think she was ready to choke slam someone about this. That leads me to believe that truly will be the tipping point.



Your mom may be the exception but generally speaking the baby boomers ruined this country. They won't have the gall to reach any sort of tipping point.


Oh boy, now you've done it. So are you old as dirt or young and ignorant? I personally am young and ignorant but I know two things.

1. You take away my retirment I worked my whole life for, I'm going to be pissed to the point of ultimate destruction

2. There are baby boomers on this board





I'd like to speak up about #2.

The 60's-70's radical leftists now teaching kids in colleges, the ones in politics, the ones in the bureaucracy everywhere are a minority. I guess some of them actually worked for the communists or were trained by them secretly (how is that for McCarthy-era tinfoil?) sort of like some of the "manchurian candidates" we've seen popping up now.

However, there is a majority of those baby boomers who produced more innovations and advances in science, technology and did things like fought in Vietnam and other areas

––those baby boomers who by and large are all we have left of what little experience and knowledge is left from better days, those people who actually learned how to think in schools across this nation, those All American baby boomers, might be all that stand between us and total collapse (when things do indeed, collapse)

Those same baby boomers who like any group of people, are divided equally as any other age group is

–– some being sensible conservatives and others being hippies, or yuppies who are worthless.

–– I don't think it's fair to lump them all together is my point.

They might have not taken a stand but they will be the pillar upon which our country is rebuilt.

Thank You.






Well said

Link Posted: 6/16/2009 11:01:00 AM EST
The "tipping point" defined as the point at which the American sheeple will no longer tolerate its own government is now irrelevant. Who knows when that could occur.

The FACT is, that there are too many mines waiting to sink this ship for us not to hit one (or many more). Whether it be foreign countries not carrying our debt load any longer or any one of the many socialist entitlement programs that we cannot afford to pay for, we are DOOMED. Doesn't matter when the people lose faith... this engine is about to throw a rod regardless...
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 11:02:14 AM EST
Originally Posted By Mcboogles:
Originally Posted By hubcityraider:
Originally Posted By Mcboogles:
Originally Posted By Shooter42:
Next big thing will be the .gov will try to do away with your 401K and stick in into a nationwide pension fund or just take your 401K and stick it in social security #2, trust me, .gov is pissed with how much money people have tied up in 401Ks that they can't get to...


My mom called me up freaking out about this the other day, and I completly hear her point. She paid into it her whole life and now that she is getting close to retirement, it might not even be there. She normally is quiet and reserved but I think she was ready to choke slam someone about this. That leads me to believe that truly will be the tipping point.



Your mom may be the exception but generally speaking the baby boomers ruined this country. They won't have the gall to reach any sort of tipping point.


Oh boy, now you've done it. So are you old as dirt or young and ignorant? I personally am young and ignorant but I know two things.

1. You take away my retirment I worked my whole life for, I'm going to be pissed to the point of ultimate destruction

2. There are baby boomers on this board





Obviously the baby boomers on this board are the good guys. And for that matter in a time of rebellion it's the people under 30 and over 50 that the government has to worry about. So clearly the leaders of any such thing would be baby boomers. That still doesn't change the fact that their generation ushered in the feel good welfare state policies of the past 30 years. Even the conservatives of that generation aren't very conservative. They're the Carl Rove neocons that think the answer is more moderation from the republican party. Times were great and thus they became progressives. And that's not even mentioning all the pure communists that are also baby boomers.
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 11:07:52 AM EST
When the .gov acually starts physically taking away our rights. It will start off slow, a few people taking a stand and getting arrested,and possibly executed, then more people will be outraged, then people will start forming a resistance. Like it or not there will be Americans who will be exeuted, arrested etc. before the shit truly hits the fan
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 11:08:17 AM EST
[Last Edit: 6/16/2009 11:12:47 AM EST by Rattle_Snake]
I was asked when will people wake up to the reality and I said it will be when the country can no longer afford to pay off the lobbyist, welfare leaches, and basically when people realize the government left them to starve and die. I was asked by my friend who is a police officer that will I obey the POTUS if he tells the military to take away peoples arms, I said NO. Our platoon and many others have talked about this, when the orders come down we will refuse to follow them and peel off the US army tape and walk away peacefully if possible. Many will have a copy of said order and we will upload it for all to see and maybe put major pressure on the Feds to back off. He said if any government official ordered us to give up our arms would we. I said I will, but it will bullets first and they can peel it out of my hands. For those who say that will never happen at all, look at the history books and compare it with to do. They are almost the exact same things being pushed.
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 11:09:53 AM EST
When it takes shopping cart full of money to buy bread. Germany during the 1930's is the example your looking for.
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 11:10:18 AM EST
That day came & went on January 20th.

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Link Posted: 6/16/2009 11:10:29 AM EST
Originally Posted By Hedonist:

When FOX goes off the air.


Nice lol.
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 11:13:06 AM EST
When Michelle Obama shows up in the nude at my door, in all her Wookieness, and asks for serial numbers of my guns, that's when the SHTF!
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 11:14:21 AM EST
Originally Posted By yekimak:
I think we need to get a permit to rebel, or maybe a license. And we need to find a rebel leader with experience in rebelling too.


Don't forget government approved classes in order to qualify for the license/permit and the upfront fees.
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 11:16:50 AM EST
[Last Edit: 6/16/2009 11:17:27 AM EST by Rattle_Snake]
Originally Posted By Strykewolf:
Originally Posted By yekimak:
I think we need to get a permit to rebel, or maybe a license. And we need to find a rebel leader with experience in rebelling too.


Don't forget government approved classes in order to qualify for the license/permit and the upfront fees.


as funny as is in hope of controlling the last of their sheep. They will likely pull stupid shit like it this. Just because we are the US does not make us invincible to a revolution.
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 11:20:26 AM EST
Soon....
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 11:20:51 AM EST
Originally Posted By yekimak:
I think we need to get a permit to rebel, or maybe a license. And we need to find a rebel leader with experience in rebelling too.




Don't forget the insurance! The fire coverage is gonna be a bitch to pay.
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 11:29:19 AM EST
Originally Posted By hubcityraider:
Originally Posted By Mcboogles:
Originally Posted By hubcityraider:
Originally Posted By Mcboogles:
Originally Posted By Shooter42:
Next big thing will be the .gov will try to do away with your 401K and stick in into a nationwide pension fund or just take your 401K and stick it in social security #2, trust me, .gov is pissed with how much money people have tied up in 401Ks that they can't get to...


My mom called me up freaking out about this the other day, and I completly hear her point. She paid into it her whole life and now that she is getting close to retirement, it might not even be there. She normally is quiet and reserved but I think she was ready to choke slam someone about this. That leads me to believe that truly will be the tipping point.



Your mom may be the exception but generally speaking the baby boomers ruined this country. They won't have the gall to reach any sort of tipping point.


Oh boy, now you've done it. So are you old as dirt or young and ignorant? I personally am young and ignorant but I know two things.

1. You take away my retirment I worked my whole life for, I'm going to be pissed to the point of ultimate destruction

2. There are baby boomers on this board





Obviously the baby boomers on this board are the good guys. And for that matter in a time of rebellion it's the people under 30 and over 50 that the government has to worry about. So clearly the leaders of any such thing would be baby boomers. That still doesn't change the fact that their generation ushered in the feel good welfare state policies of the past 30 years. Even the conservatives of that generation aren't very conservative. They're the Carl Rove neocons that think the answer is more moderation from the republican party. Times were great and thus they became progressives. And that's not even mentioning all the pure communists that are also baby boomers.


Also well said. Guess you didn't need your flame suit after all.

Link Posted: 6/16/2009 11:32:28 AM EST
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 11:37:57 AM EST
It's everyone's duty to pay more.
You know to help the less fortunate.
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 11:42:20 AM EST
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