If I remember right - wasn't our answer to Vietnam to send more troops, more guns, more bombs? You know - fight a war of attritition against people who fight useing maneuver warfare and unconventional means? Yea - makes a lot of sense - lets brain dump all the lessons we supposedly learned from previous conflicts and fight this thing like a UN peacekeeping mission..... Yes, I'd love to bomb the shit out of Iraq........... But fighting like Schwarzkof did in the first Gulf War will keep us there FOREVER. If we want to win this thing, they need to stop fighting this bullsht like its Bosnia for Christsakes. Which they are. Some thanks probably due to 1st Armored Division which I used to be a part of. But nothing will change - it never does when you have pampered generals running the show and spaced out politicians running diplomacy. Once we as a collective nation remove our collective head from our collective ass and start fighting a war without rules, without bullshit policies, without external politics to deal with - only THEN will we win. Throwing bodies at the fire is not a solution. And I don't think anyone here is in a position to offer up their neighbor's sons and daughters to join the carnage. As I said before, its not about raw numbers. We thought we were winning Vietnam based on body-count. No - we won parts of the Vietnam war based on using the right tactics for the right mission.