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Posted: 5/22/2005 11:36:31 AM EDT
The last 2 vechicles I purchased at close to 100K miles. drove them both for another 75k with not too many problems.

When I went to sell them many people balked at the mileage even though they ran fine.

I've also been told by car dealers once a vehicle go over the magic 100k mark they are very difficult to sell.

So when do you consider a vehicle worn out?

Link Posted: 5/22/2005 11:38:21 AM EDT
when the wheel bearings are so shot that the little woman can't push it no more.
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 11:39:11 AM EDT
When it starts breaking down on a monthly basis, it's worn out.

Link Posted: 5/22/2005 11:39:57 AM EDT
Poll does not work
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 11:40:01 AM EDT
36 or 48K, whenever the bumper to bumper warranty expires.
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 11:41:17 AM EDT


Beats me. I never keep them long enough to find out.

Link Posted: 5/22/2005 11:48:07 AM EDT
It depends...

Mopar worn out

or


Toyota/Honda worn out...?
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 11:52:39 AM EDT
I consider it worn out when I spend more time under the hoot fixin shit than I do on the road.
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 11:57:10 AM EDT
When it burns a quart of oil every tank of gas. Or when the cost to keep it running exceeds the low blue book value. Then just take it out and shoot it up with the ol' AR.
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 11:58:56 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/22/2005 11:59:36 AM EDT by Wash-Ar15]

It depends...

Mopar worn out

or


Toyota/Honda worn out...?

in general
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 12:22:17 PM EDT
I don't go by mileage; for me its when the vehicle repair bills start mounting up and the vehicle is no longer fun to drive.
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 12:28:39 PM EDT
Where's the box for "Never."
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 12:31:10 PM EDT
Around me it's when it rusts to nothing. First thign to look at is price, mileage, considering the age HOW much rust deteriation.
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 12:32:16 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 12:34:30 PM EDT
When the floorboards rot out, the tranny is shifted with a vice-grip clamped to the tower, the exhaust pipes are rusted through, no windows are without a crack or daisy, and there is a pretty healthy rod-knock coming from the engine.

In short, never.
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 12:37:43 PM EDT
When it is no longer trustworthy enough to drive more than 6-8 hours from home.
(or when everyones laughing at you when you pull up to the gun club)

Which reminds me.............anyone want to buy a Chevette with 115K.....cheap?
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 12:43:31 PM EDT
Generally once the cost of repairs has exceeded the cost of the car when you bought it...
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 12:45:10 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Merrell:
when the wheel bearings are so shot that the little woman can't push it no more.



Link Posted: 5/22/2005 12:45:51 PM EDT
My best friends father has an chevy blazer with over 250k on it and no overhauls.

The man is a master of preventative maintenance. He is literally someone who can damn near speak to machines.
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 12:46:54 PM EDT
When it stops running, doesn't get me home that night and leaving it there is cheaper then calling a tow truck.

Sgtar15
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 12:48:28 PM EDT
I've only worn out one truck, my current one should last another 20 years.

The last one was rusted out, hinges broken, door handles did not work, maybe 1 week left on the clutch (slipping for 2 years), intermittant brakes with a good emergency brake, broken back window, a screwdriver in place of the shifter (stolen, WTF?), no bushings in the suspension, shocks going, no engine compression left.

I considered fixing it, but bought a new truck instead.
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 12:48:44 PM EDT
I was just asking myself the smae thing this morning. I have a 99 Lincoln Continental with 145,000 mile on it. Back in March I had to make an $850 repair, this month I had to make a $790 repair (that was due to me driving it down a BAD dirt road), and I'm going to need to make another $800 or so dollar repair next month. The problem is that I bought it used in 2001 and I'm not going to have it paid off until October.

By that time it'll be in great shape.
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 12:55:36 PM EDT
when its totaled

i got a friend who still uses his Z-71 with over 200,000 miles on it

re-built the engine once or twice so far

still going
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 1:03:16 PM EDT

Originally Posted By recoiljunky:
Where's the box for "Never."



When it becomes mechanically unsafe or unreliable and the cost to fix it is more than to replace. Now as a second car, the reliability issue isn't as important, I'd not drive my Mustang more farther from home than I can walk in a couple of hours but it does get me to the grocery and work.

mileage is a poor indicator
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 1:06:30 PM EDT
I kind of go both ways on this topic.

I run my work rig until the wheels fall off...., then I put em' back on until somthing blows up!!

But I get a new pleasure rig...., for hunting fishing ect... every 2 or 3 years.

After all......, a guy has to have his priorities straight!!!



Link Posted: 5/22/2005 1:10:16 PM EDT

Originally Posted By motown_steve:
I was just asking myself the smae thing this morning. I have a 99 Lincoln Continental with 145,000 mile on it. Back in March I had to make an $850 repair, this month I had to make a $790 repair (that was due to me driving it down a BAD dirt road), and I'm going to need to make another $800 or so dollar repair next month. The problem is that I bought it used in 2001 and I'm not going to have it paid off until October.

By that time it'll be in great shape.



my Lincoln Town Cars an '88 and is about 500 miles short of hitting the big 100K. Hasn't had any serious problems if you don't mind the fact that the horn goes off randomly (which was fixed by pulling the fuse), strange smoke comes into the cab if the heat or AC is off, the exahaust pipe fell out of the muffler and it climbs up hills like a senior citizen in a lil rascal.
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 1:35:51 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Wash-Ar15:
The last 2 vechicles I purchased at close to 100K miles. drove them both for another 75k with not too many problems.

When I went to sell them many people balked at the mileage even though they ran fine.

I've also been told by car dealers once a vehicle go over the magic 100k mark they are very difficult to sell.

So when do you consider a vehicle worn out?


Just a few weeks ago, every vehicle we owned has over 100,000mi on them. But we knew the maintenance history and took good care of them.
Buying someone else's vehicle with such mileage is just not generally a wise thing to do - you never know how it's been treated.
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 3:41:37 PM EDT
Good for another 100k miles.

Link Posted: 5/22/2005 3:50:12 PM EDT
I plan on trading mine in at 200K. Its my opinion that any newer vehicle should go 200K without needing an engine or trans. Mine is at 153,000 and everything is still great. I will be retiring it most likely sometime in 07'
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 4:00:59 PM EDT
That depends so much on previous owner maintenance and treatment that it is impossible to say.

If you want to evaluate a used car, do a compression check, a leakdown check, pull the valve cover to look for oil deposits, run with an OBD-2 scanner and check for problems, and ask for service records.

I've seen completely worn-out cars at under 50,000 miles and I've seen cars that run like new at 150,000 miles.

Jim
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 4:02:05 PM EDT
got over 175K on my Silverado, 115K on my wife's Explorer. Both are regularly maintained (I'm a mechanic) and aren't abused....We're not even considering a new vehicle at this time. They both run like tops and still look good. We get rid of vehicles when it costs more to repair than to replace with something similar--that's how we afford our BRD
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 4:10:37 PM EDT
I don't keep cars after they reach the 30Ks. I love new cars. I get a new one every two years or so.

Link Posted: 5/22/2005 4:12:18 PM EDT
I personally do not buy a vehicle after about 80k. Just seems to me like someone else got the better mileage out of it.
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 4:18:46 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 4:46:41 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Wash-Ar15:
The last 2 vechicles I purchased at close to 100K miles. drove them both for another 75k with not too many problems.

When I went to sell them many people balked at the mileage even though they ran fine.

I've also been told by car dealers once a vehicle go over the magic 100k mark they are very difficult to sell.

So when do you consider a vehicle worn out?




When NO amount of "tinkering" will get it running. IMO, vehicles are ONLY good for getting from "point A" to "Point B" via LAND. It does that, it's all good. I bought a Ford Explorer, 91, CHEAP. Had around 175k on it, it's up to 190k, I had to replace the tires, but she's good.
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 4:59:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/22/2005 5:00:11 PM EDT by RichHolland]
When a vehicle is worn out you'll know . . . it won't fit the definition of "vehicle" any more.
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 5:10:05 PM EDT
When it will no longer pass it's smog test no matter what you do. It's not worth rebuilding an engine in a junk car. My oldest right now is a 93 Merc Grand Marquis with 165K, we drive it daily and I expect another 100K+ out of it. The electric mirrors dont work, and I replaced a water pump a couple months ago. That's pretty much it, we'll keep driving it. 25mpg Hwy and still comfy.
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 5:22:31 PM EDT
Well, at work we buy new pickups when they are paid off..2-3 years. Then someone lower on the food chain gets them.

We had a Tundra go over 200,000. It was fine, but the boss' son destroyed it. Just because he could. Probably could have gotten 250-300,000 out of it.

Ours usually get real close to 200,000 when they become to much $$$ to keep out of the shop.

These are Chevy 2500 HDs, 4WD.
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 5:34:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/22/2005 5:34:43 PM EDT by cmjohnson]
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 5:55:00 PM EDT
It depends on whether I'm buying the vehicle or if I already own it.

As far as buying a vehicle is concerned I usually won't consider anything with more than 60K miles unless I can bring it into the shop and take a very close look at it on the rack.


Owning a vehicle is ifferent because you know the condition of it. My car has 225K miles, and my wifes 4x4 truck has 160K miles on it.

My personal vehicles are all in very good shape with high mileage. I don't consider them worn out, they both run and feel like new vehicles but I would probably pass on them if someone was selling them for more than a few hundred dollars each.
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 6:26:56 PM EDT
When it needs new tires, and the price of the tires exceeds the value of the vehicle. Then I'm done. My '94 Jeep GC with 194,000 miles is getting close.............
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 6:32:03 PM EDT
When the transmission starts smoking.

The Bonneville made it to 200k+ miles before it bit the dust.
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 7:06:18 PM EDT
My '89 Dodge Dakota turned over 205,000 miles today. I have 1 rust spot on it under the stainless rocker panel on the driver side about the size of your fist. Last year I replace valve cover gaskets and plugs and plug wires. After that I unhooked all of the polution control junk and ditched the catalitic ( however you spell it) converter. Never any major work on the motor and the 5 speed transmission and clutch have never been touched. She still hauls lumber and shingles and tools,ect..... to work and hasn't hicupped yet. Knock on wood.
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 7:19:16 PM EDT

Originally Posted By submoa1:
When it is no longer trustworthy enough to drive more than 6-8 hours from home.
(or when everyones laughing at you when you pull up to the gun club)

Which reminds me.............anyone want to buy a Chevette with 115K.....cheap?



Or you goto a shoot and they have the same make/model as yours but in better condition than yours as a target down range.


wganz

Link Posted: 5/22/2005 8:10:15 PM EDT
30 thousand miles before i buy it!!! bought the Galant for $100 and the full size blazer for $300, Blazer had holes in the floor that you could stick your head through . I havent paid more than $500 for a car of truck since before i was 20
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 8:16:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/22/2005 8:20:00 PM EDT by California_Kid]
I care only about maintenance costs and how much inconvenience I'm experiencing due to the vehicle wearing out.

I kept my 1985 Nissan pickup until it had over 235 K miles. It started becoming smog-test challenged because of stricter standards more than a worn engine. In 2002 it cost me $800 to get it to pass the smog test, so I ditched it. Prior to that it had always passed the bienniel test with minimal adjustments at worst.

Nothing gets your attention quite like an unexpected $800 vehicle repair.
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 8:18:45 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ALPHAGHOST:
when its totaled...



My '85 Nissan truck was totalled TWICE while I owned it. I put almost 100 K miles on it after the second totalling. When I sold it, for $300, the rear part of the passenger's side of the cab had half an inch of Bondo. I'd replaced the entire bed with ones from scrap yards both times. The frame had to be straightened only once.

Getting your vehicle totalled really sucks. but it doesn't always mean you shouldn't keep it.
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 8:19:49 PM EDT
My volvo stationwagon recently passed 100k, and I'm HOPING that it will at least make it to 200k. It's the best car I have ever owned (the inside is like a freakin' TARDIS - nerd joke ).

However, when I do finally NEED to get a new car, I think it'll be a Honda/Toyota/Nissan (or their corresponding luxury divisions) that I turn to. I definitely want a car to last 250k - but I'm not sure the Volvo will make it that far.

Link Posted: 5/22/2005 8:19:53 PM EDT
I was at DEQ and the employee said the guy in front of me had 986k miles on his 1977 datsun. I would consider that worn out but it still ran with no smoke.
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 8:20:04 PM EDT
anything close to 200 K is worn out in my opinion, not something I would depend on to go on a long trip
Link Posted: 5/22/2005 8:21:15 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DienBienPhu54:
anything close to 200 K is worn out in my opinion, not something I would depend on to go on a long trip



The standard test here in San Diego is "Would you drive it to Phoenix?" If you wouldn' trust it to go that far, it's time to get rid of it.
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