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Posted: 1/5/2006 9:25:30 AM EDT
and or caliber .....under 1500....
Link Posted: 1/5/2006 9:28:36 AM EDT
What distance are you talking and what kind of shooting? Want a semi, bolt, what? To what end is it going to be used and in what kind of weather?
Link Posted: 1/5/2006 9:28:57 AM EDT
.50 BMG
6.5 Grendel (Anything 6.5 really)

30-30

.22LR

What do you consider "loooong range" and what do you want to do at that "loooong range"? Put a hole in paper? Drop a man? Drop a deer? Elk? Stop a freight train?
Link Posted: 1/5/2006 9:29:29 AM EDT

Originally Posted By fxntime:
What distance are you talking and what kind of shooting? Want a semi, bolt, what? To what end is it going to be used and in what kind of weather?



Beat by 20 seconds.

Link Posted: 1/5/2006 9:30:39 AM EDT
The media told me you can shoot the moon out of the sky with a .50 BMG.
Link Posted: 1/5/2006 9:31:41 AM EDT

Originally Posted By fxntime:
What distance are you talking and what kind of shooting? Want a semi, bolt, what? To what end is it going to be used and in what kind of weather?

bolt action would be fine ....I would like to be able to drop an animal ........1000-1200 yds....least I think thats long
Link Posted: 1/5/2006 9:31:57 AM EDT

Originally Posted By BarnStormer:
The media told me you can shoot the moon out of the sky with a .50 BMG.



You dont shoot it out of the sky, you just deflate it. Its just filled with air you know......Like a balloon.....
Link Posted: 1/5/2006 9:32:49 AM EDT

Originally Posted By BarnStormer:
The media told me you can shoot the moon out of the sky with a .50 BMG.

I would like to stay away from .50 if possible
Link Posted: 1/5/2006 9:34:24 AM EDT
.
Link Posted: 1/5/2006 9:34:41 AM EDT
For real reach-out-and-touch-something lethality, you absolutely can't go wrond with a .338 Lapua. I must warn you, however, that this particular round hes been known to be almost as lethal from behind as it is in front. CO
Link Posted: 1/5/2006 9:35:37 AM EDT


.300 Remington Ultra Magnum

BigDozer66
Link Posted: 1/5/2006 9:36:11 AM EDT
338-378 Weatherby or 338 Lapua
Link Posted: 1/5/2006 9:36:24 AM EDT

Originally Posted By CasualObserver:
For real reach-out-and-touch-something lethality, you absolutely can't go wrond with a .338 Lapua. I must warn you, however, that this particular round hes been known to be almost as lethal from behind as it is in front.

CO

I don't get it ................................Kaboom?
Link Posted: 1/5/2006 9:36:27 AM EDT
what about .300 winmag?
Link Posted: 1/5/2006 9:38:02 AM EDT

Originally Posted By CoonazzLRRP:
338-378 Weatherby or 338 Lapua



Yeah, .338 lapua is fine.


IMO, these are better:

.408 and .50bmg
Link Posted: 1/5/2006 9:38:33 AM EDT
Another good choice is the .338 Remington Ultra Mag. BC of the 250 - 300 grain bullets for the .338's is well over .5 with some approaching .6 and the SD's are very high as well. Just out of curiosity, what the hell do you need to shoot from that far away? You find a guided hunt for T-rex or something?
Link Posted: 1/5/2006 9:39:47 AM EDT


HARP range 180km
Link Posted: 1/5/2006 9:39:59 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/5/2006 9:40:47 AM EDT by CasualObserver]

Originally Posted By BiggyD:

Originally Posted By CasualObserver:
For real reach-out-and-touch-something lethality, you absolutely can't go wrond with a .338 Lapua. I must warn you, however, that this particular round hes been known to be almost as lethal from behind as it is in front. hr
I don't get it ................................Kaboom?



No, without a good muzzle brake they kick like a freaking sledge hammer to the shoulder.
Link Posted: 1/5/2006 9:40:57 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/5/2006 9:41:44 AM EDT by ixy]
if you don't want a .50

Link Posted: 1/5/2006 9:42:25 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/5/2006 9:44:50 AM EDT

Originally Posted By BiggyD:

Originally Posted By fxntime:
What distance are you talking and what kind of shooting? Want a semi, bolt, what? To what end is it going to be used and in what kind of weather?

bolt action would be fine ....I would like to be able to drop an animal ........1000-1200 yds....least I think thats long



Drop a praire dog or drop a moose?
Link Posted: 1/5/2006 9:46:04 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Specop_007:

Originally Posted By BarnStormer:
The media told me you can shoot the moon out of the sky with a .50 BMG.



You dont shoot it out of the sky, you just deflate it. Its just filled with air you know......Like a balloon.....



Wait..if it is full of air, then where do they hide all the cheese?
Link Posted: 1/5/2006 9:48:24 AM EDT

Originally Posted By ixy:
if you don't want a .50

upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/8c/M24_SWS.jpg



Lol, that scope alone eats up 90% of his budget

For long range why not try a Remington 700 PSS either in .308 or .300WM pending how far you want to get out. Top it with a Super Sniper 10x scope. That should get you going.
Link Posted: 1/5/2006 9:49:15 AM EDT

Originally Posted By CasualObserver:

Originally Posted By BiggyD:

Originally Posted By CasualObserver:
For real reach-out-and-touch-something lethality, you absolutely can't go wrond with a .338 Lapua. I must warn you, however, that this particular round hes been known to be almost as lethal from behind as it is in front.

CO

I don't get it ................................Kaboom?



No, without a good muzzle brake they kick like a freaking sledge hammer to the shoulder.



I tried my Accumark 338-378 just once without the brake attached for shits and grins. after the trigger was pulled, I wasn't grinning at all. I'll NEVER do that again.

Link Posted: 1/5/2006 9:49:17 AM EDT
The honest truth is that you, me nor anyone else outside of war should be shooting at an animal at 1000-1200 yards. Were talking FEET [yards] of bullet drop, with a living thing that, if we are shooting at, should be killed humanely. I'm no bunny hugger but I think that you are asking a bit much. Have you done any hunting before? At a 1000 yards a deer looks like a pinpoint and even looking thru a scope, the kill zone will be smaller then the best damn shooters in the world can hit consistantly especially with a target that is moving, with a less then optimal position, and without near perfect conditions.

In truth, 300yds is a long shot hunting and most of the deer I have taken have been 50 to 75 yards away. And I got 4 this year so it ain't that hard.
Link Posted: 1/5/2006 9:50:53 AM EDT
.460 Wby Mag.. With a 500 Gr bullet..
Link Posted: 1/5/2006 9:52:26 AM EDT

Originally Posted By fxntime:
The honest truth is that you, me nor anyone else outside of war should be shooting at an animal at 1000-1200 yards. Were talking FEET [yards] of bullet drop, with a living thing that, if we are shooting at, should be killed humanely. I'm no bunny hugger but I think that you are asking a bit much. Have you done any hunting before? At a 1000 yards a deer looks like a pinpoint and even looking thru a scope, the kill zone will be smaller then the best damn shooters in the world can hit consistantly especially with a target that is moving, with a less then optimal position, and without near perfect conditions.

In truth, 300yds is a long shot hunting and most of the deer I have taken have been 50 to 75 yards away. And I got 4 this year so it ain't that hard.



+1. Truer words have not been spoken. I would hate to know that I had to take a shot at a game animal at that distance.
Link Posted: 1/5/2006 9:52:38 AM EDT
You're huntin' them thar two legged varmints, aint ya?
Link Posted: 1/5/2006 9:52:43 AM EDT
+1 on .338 Lapua for the range you are talking about.
Link Posted: 1/5/2006 9:55:20 AM EDT
If you want to learn to hunt animals at long range, say 1000 to 1500 yards, learn how to hunt them up close to 300 yards or so first, and master that skill. Then move out to say 600 yards.

After a few years of building expertise, then you might be personally equipped to make 1200 yard shots on animals.

Otherwise, it's unethical at best.
Link Posted: 1/6/2006 12:38:44 AM EDT

Originally Posted By AeroE:
If you want to learn to hunt animals at long range, say 1000 to 1500 yards, learn how to hunt them up close to 300 yards or so first, and master that skill. Then move out to say 600 yards.

After a few years of building expertise, then you might be personally equipped to make 1200 yard shots on animals.

Otherwise, it's unethical at best.

Jumping the gun a bit here ...We have a true 800 -1100 yd. range set up at a friends house ....so ,obviously there would be LOTS of practice before any attempt at a live animal would be made....but,thanks for the input..
Link Posted: 1/6/2006 1:01:51 AM EDT
408 Chey Tac
Please notice that the stock is collapsed in the picture.


If you are going to do it, DO IT!
Link Posted: 1/6/2006 1:05:13 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/6/2006 1:08:03 AM EDT by Disco_Stu_TX]
Easiest - 300 win mag (might be a bit far for 1200 yds)

One of the Best - Laupa

However it seems like optics for a 1200 yd shot would run 1500 alone
Link Posted: 1/6/2006 6:18:52 AM EDT

Originally Posted By BiggyD:

Originally Posted By AeroE:
If you want to learn to hunt animals at long range, say 1000 to 1500 yards, learn how to hunt them up close to 300 yards or so first, and master that skill. Then move out to say 600 yards.

After a few years of building expertise, then you might be personally equipped to make 1200 yard shots on animals.

Otherwise, it's unethical at best.

Jumping the gun a bit here ...We have a true 800 -1100 yd. range set up at a friends house ....so ,obviously there would be LOTS of practice before any attempt at a live animal would be made....but,thanks for the input..



Okay, then. Get a rifle built on a Nesika Bay action. A variety of calibers are useful; .338 Lapua, .30 Wolf (.338 Lapua necked to .30 caliber), and others. McMillion makes good plastic stocks, I like Shehane laminated stocks, there are other choices. Stick a NightForce scope on top with decent rings from Badger. Learn to read the mirage. You will also need to learn to handload ammunition specifically for long range shooting.

There will always be endless debates about the ethics of shooting game animals at long ranges, and there will never be agreement about the practice. You might check Dan Lilja's web page for his articles on the topic - might as well hear it from someone that practices the sport. This was a good web site at one time, I haven't looked at it in a while -
longrangehunting.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php
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