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Posted: 1/13/2011 5:15:36 PM EDT
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They were told to help Muslims
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Posted: 1/13/2011 5:17:12 PM EDT
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First post rule hereby enacted.
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Posted: 1/13/2011 5:17:22 PM EDT
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They were told to help Muslims Yep, welfare >nasa |
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Posted: 1/13/2011 5:17:34 PM EDT
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its a muslim outreach now
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Posted: 1/13/2011 5:19:47 PM EDT
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I think we were politely told "Go back home."
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Posted: 1/13/2011 5:20:29 PM EDT
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I think we were politely told "Go back home." http://www.librarising.com/space/images/qstartrek.jpg "We don't want you round heah Joe Dirt, ya hear, get on outta here boy!" 
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Posted: 1/13/2011 5:20:59 PM EDT
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Hadji needs help son. Get focused.
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Posted: 1/13/2011 5:23:07 PM EDT
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We will use the liberal method of space exploration........just beg for a ride from russia or china.
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Posted: 1/13/2011 5:26:16 PM EDT
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It's better if we pay the Russians several million dollars, per astronaut, per trip to hitch a ride to a space station mostly paid for by the U.S. Makes sense to me.  Besides, NASA is now chartered with finding evidence to support global warming, whether it exists or not. |
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Posted: 1/13/2011 5:30:47 PM EDT
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They became a joke from the 80's and onward. It needs to be completely liquidated and get a fresh new start. Fire everyone, cancel all contracts, get all new people in at reasonable pay, and set forth a few SOLID objectives instead of chickenshit kiddy experiments.
-Build a moon colony. -Find a way to get to Mars. -Martian colony. You know, the type of shit that made America proud. Not playing with mice in a tin can floating around. |
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Posted: 1/13/2011 5:36:08 PM EDT
[#11]
food stamps ate it.
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Posted: 1/13/2011 5:36:27 PM EDT
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Rat bit my sister Nell and Whitey on the Moon.
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Posted: 1/13/2011 5:36:32 PM EDT
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They became a joke from the 80's and onward. It needs to be completely liquidated and get a fresh new start. Fire everyone, cancel all contracts, get all new people in at reasonable pay, and set forth a few SOLID objectives instead of chickenshit kiddy experiments. -Build a moon colony. -Find a way to get to Mars. -Martian colony. You know, the type of shit that made America proud. Not playing with mice in a tin can floating around. What are the pay rates at NASA? |
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Posted: 1/13/2011 5:38:07 PM EDT
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Private contractors, Space Exploration Technologies is doing a lot now
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Posted: 1/13/2011 5:38:09 PM EDT
[#15]
What happened to Nasa? It got obamaized
Just like the economy and the oil drilling industry. Bush gave them one hell of a future, but mister dumbass destroyed it. |
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Posted: 1/13/2011 5:38:50 PM EDT
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Yeah, our money is "better spent" on welfare recipients than on our engineers and other skilled workers that make new innovations that improves lives and health.
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Posted: 1/13/2011 5:40:09 PM EDT
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We failed to make it cheap and easy (relative, I know).
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Posted: 1/13/2011 5:40:29 PM EDT
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Quoted: Private contractors, Space Exploration Technologies is doing a lot now They are focusing on space tourism, not space exploration. 
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Posted: 1/13/2011 5:41:25 PM EDT
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Quoted: Yeah, our money is "better spent" on welfare recipients than on our engineers and other skilled workers that make new innovations that improves lives and health. Scientific welfare is still welfare. NASA had its hayday and needs to finally die. |
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Posted: 1/13/2011 5:43:37 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Yeah, our money is "better spent" on welfare recipients than on our engineers and other skilled workers that make new innovations that improves lives and health. Scientific welfare is still welfare. NASA had its hayday and needs to finally die. No, it needs a vision and a direction. If hasn't had that since the 60s. |
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Posted: 1/13/2011 5:46:50 PM EDT
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Pretty much every post nails it. We'd rather spend the money supporting the illegitimate future inmates of your local urban environment than exploring space.
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Posted: 1/13/2011 5:47:30 PM EDT
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What happened to NASA?
it starts with an O and sounds like Obama |
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Posted: 1/13/2011 5:48:35 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Yeah, our money is "better spent" on welfare recipients than on our engineers and other skilled workers that make new innovations that improves lives and health. Scientific welfare is still welfare. NASA had its hayday and needs to finally die.  You're not very well educated, are you? Historically speaking, the space program has been of incredible value to us as the technologies that were developed by or in support of the space program have totally transformed our lives. The space program is as close to a pure research program that exists today, and pure research programs ALWAYS pay huge dividends. Give smart, inquisitive people money to pursue the things they want to explore and discover, and they will make many discoveries, some of which will turn out to be very useful and/or valuable. This ALWAYS works. All through history, it has worked. I'd say that our space program is one of the most important programs that the government spends money on. I'd put it in the top three, to be honest about it. Maybe even the top TWO. The other being national defense. If you're not free, you're not free to pursue avenues of scientific interest. Anyone who thinks the space program isn't damned well worth every penny is dramatically underinformed about the enormous returns that we have gotten out of it. CJ |
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Posted: 1/13/2011 5:52:48 PM EDT
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After we got on the moon, NASA lost focus, mission and money. Space stations and shuttles just don't have the cache of putting a man on the moon. NASA became superfluous long before Obama was in office.
I grew up in the sixties as a huge space junkie. Mercury, Gemini, Apollo. After Apollo, I and most of the country, lost interest. |
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Posted: 1/13/2011 5:53:35 PM EDT
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They were told to help Muslims Goddam first post people piss me off. They're right too many times as of late. |
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Posted: 1/13/2011 5:54:09 PM EDT
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Technology has advanced beyond our ability to pay for it. That's what happened.
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Posted: 1/13/2011 5:54:42 PM EDT
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I view Nasa as important as the military.
Nothing beats the power projection of putting a man on the moon or a manned space station. It really is the ultimate political tool as well, there is not a soul on the planet that does not know about NASA, except maybe some of obamas relatives. The problem is they need a very heavy lifter to put really cool stuff in space and Bush gave that to them, it was called the ARES V (2nd gen Saturn V) and obama being the jerk he is destroyed it. |
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Posted: 1/13/2011 5:55:02 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Yeah, our money is "better spent" on welfare recipients than on our engineers and other skilled workers that make new innovations that improves lives and health. Scientific welfare is still welfare. NASA had its hayday and needs to finally die. *snip* The figure is that for every penny spent researching and going to the moon got a 10 cent return on investment. NASA is one of the only government programs I dont mind us going into some debt over, because in the end, the return investment will be worth more than we put into it. But of course, it needs to have a clear vision and with new challenges that they need to overcome. It's not good to have a space program that is kinda just sitting idle. |
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Posted: 1/13/2011 6:01:02 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Yeah, our money is "better spent" on welfare recipients than on our engineers and other skilled workers that make new innovations that improves lives and health. Scientific welfare is still welfare. NASA had its hayday and needs to finally die. You're not very well educated, are you? Edited...VA-gunnutMaster's Degree. Historically speaking, the space program has been of incredible value to us as the technologies that were developed by or in support of the space program have totally transformed our lives. The space program is as close to a pure research program that exists today, and pure research programs ALWAYS pay huge dividends. Big Government stopped being effective since the 60's. They used to get shit done, had objectives, and fulfilled them. Current NASA is filled with a bunch of overpayed eggheads that have fun at the expense of taxpayers and BLOATED with administrative and lame middle manager types. People seemed impressed with the little shit they do now, and with Obama in charge - bring on the fail. Give smart, inquisitive people money to pursue the things they want to explore and discover, and they will make many discoveries, some of which will turn out to be very useful and/or valuable. This ALWAYS works. All through history, it has worked. I'd say that our space program is one of the most important programs that the government spends money on. I'd put it in the top three, to be honest about it. Maybe even the top TWO. The other being national defense. If you're not free, you're not free to pursue avenues of scientific interest. Too bad we don't have anything that resembles a REAL space program. We went to the moon a few times, then stopped. Now we play tin can floater with mice. Whoopie. Some masterful use of scientific skill. Anyone who thinks the space program isn't damned well worth every penny is dramatically underinformed about the enormous returns that we have gotten out of it. Nope, it still sucks, and sucked since the 80's and up. HOW THE FUCK DOES A SPACE AGENCY NOT KNOW GASKETS SHRINK DURING THE COLD? Worthless fuckstains run it. I know three assclowns that work at NASA, bring 100K a year and laugh about how it's such a joke to work for NASA and how they keep getting money. Nothing can be fixed unless EVERYONE gets canned, everything is canceled, and its restarted from scratch. No progress can be made unless all the cancer is removed. A new space agency needs a real leader, REAL goals, and if they don't get shit done - they get removed. Plain and simple. What they have going on is just scientific welfare. It's a joke and filled with excuses and defenders. CJ |
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Posted: 1/13/2011 6:02:54 PM EDT
[#30]
Blackstronauts helped to found the better and efficient space program, but White NASA won out, and it may have not been for the better.
Heroes like Wallace "Suitcase" Jefferson cause me to question, should we just bring at NASSA and admit they were the better space program? 
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Posted: 1/13/2011 6:06:14 PM EDT
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Quoted: Not good at all.Quoted: Quoted: *snip*Quoted: <snip><snip> The figure is that for every penny spent researching and going to the moon got a 10 cent return on investment. NASA is one of the only government programs I dont mind us going into some debt over, because in the end, the return investment will be worth more than we put into it. But of course, it needs to have a clear vision and with new challenges that they need to overcome. It's not good to have a space program that is kinda just sitting idle. I'm trying to find the interview I thought I had bookmarked where they were talking about how fast our ability to actually accomplish manned spaceflight would deteriorate if we let it lapse like planned. Putting an astronaut in a suit and then sending him up in a begged/ borrowed/ bought ride is not the same as having the ability to safely research-develop-build-launch-orbit-rendezvous-recover a manned space vehicle. |
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Posted: 1/13/2011 6:09:54 PM EDT
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NASA needs a dictator to take control of it and remove all the dead weight and sackless intellectual leeches who have ruined it.
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Posted: 1/13/2011 6:10:52 PM EDT
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The space shuttle happened. It was supposed to be a stepping stone, instead it was a death sentence to the space program. Read some books from the mercury, Gemini an Apollo astronauts.
Plus the ever increasing red tape.. |
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Posted: 1/13/2011 6:12:00 PM EDT
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Quoted: Blackstronauts helped to found the better and efficient space program, but White NASA won out, and it may have not been for the better. Heroes like Wallace "Suitcase" Jefferson cause me to question, should we just bring at NASSA and admit they were the better space program? http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/fa/BlackstronautsSmall.jpg  |
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Posted: 1/13/2011 6:15:34 PM EDT
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"WE WILL MAKE SPACE THE NEXT DETROIT"
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Posted: 1/13/2011 6:17:04 PM EDT
[#36]
Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Yeah, our money is "better spent" on welfare recipients than on our engineers and other skilled workers that make new innovations that improves lives and health. Scientific welfare is still welfare. NASA had its hayday and needs to finally die. You're not very well educated, are you? (Comment removed from quote, as it would constitute a personal attack in no uncertain terms, thus a COC violation.) Historically speaking, the space program has been of incredible value to us as the technologies that were developed by or in support of the space program have totally transformed our lives. The space program is as close to a pure research program that exists today, and pure research programs ALWAYS pay huge dividends. Big Government stopped being effective since the 60's. They used to get shit done, had objectives, and fulfilled them. Current NASA is filled with a bunch of overpayed eggheads that have fun at the expense of taxpayers and BLOATED with administrative and lame middle manager types. People seemed impressed with the little shit they do now, and with Obama in charge - bring on the fail. Give smart, inquisitive people money to pursue the things they want to explore and discover, and they will make many discoveries, some of which will turn out to be very useful and/or valuable. This ALWAYS works. All through history, it has worked. I'd say that our space program is one of the most important programs that the government spends money on. I'd put it in the top three, to be honest about it. Maybe even the top TWO. The other being national defense. If you're not free, you're not free to pursue avenues of scientific interest. Too bad we don't have anything that resembles a REAL space program. We went to the moon a few times, then stopped. Now we play tin can floater with mice. Whoopie. Some masterful use of scientific skill. Anyone who thinks the space program isn't damned well worth every penny is dramatically underinformed about the enormous returns that we have gotten out of it. Nope, it still sucks, and sucked since the 80's and up. HOW THE FUCK DOES A SPACE AGENCY NOT KNOW GASKETS SHRINK DURING THE COLD? Worthless fuckstains run it. I know three assclowns that work at NASA, bring 100K a year and laugh about how it's such a joke to work for NASA and how they keep getting money. Nothing can be fixed unless EVERYONE gets canned, everything is canceled, and its restarted from scratch. No progress can be made unless all the cancer is removed. A new space agency needs a real leader, REAL goals, and if they don't get shit done - they get removed. Plain and simple. What they have going on is just scientific welfare. It's a joke and filled with excuses and defenders. CJ Don't blame the scientists and researchers. Blame a short-sighted Congress (and Presidents) that don't understand the significance and importance of the space program and all the scientific research that it supports and creates. If it weren't for idiot Congressmen who don't understand anything about science and its value (and potential value) to us, then NASA would have been funded for the programs that should have by rights put us on Mars quite a few years ago, colonized the moon, created lower cost earth-to-orbit transport systems, and put large, multi-purpose space stations into orbit which resemble science fiction movies more than a collection of dumpsters welded to a lighting truss stolen from a rock concert, which kind of describes the ISS. Scientists are hampered by Congressmen who don't understand what scientists can offer. And it's Congress that decides where to spend the money for various programs. If Congressmen were smart, they'd fund the scientists adequately to keep the significant discoveries coming. Some things will be really useful, like learning how to reverse the ageing process, or grow functional brains in liberals, thus turning them into conservatives. CJ |
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Posted: 1/13/2011 6:22:27 PM EDT
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NASA started going downhill after the Challenger disaster. Then we lost the Columbia. Doubts have been cast on the future of manned space flights. The spirit that put man on the moon is gone, there will be no further advances until we figure out again that if you want to explore space, your going to have to take risks and push the envelope.
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Posted: 1/13/2011 6:28:13 PM EDT
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Rat bit my sister Nell and Whitey on the Moon.  They played that on the local college radio station earlier today (they play it every now and then for some reason).
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Posted: 1/13/2011 6:35:56 PM EDT
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Quoted: They became a joke from the 80's and onward. It needs to be completely liquidated and get a fresh new start. Fire everyone, cancel all contracts, get all new people in at reasonable pay, and set forth a few SOLID objectives instead of chickenshit kiddy experiments. -Build a moon colony. -Find a way to get to Mars. -Martian colony. You know, the type of shit that made America proud. Not playing with mice in a tin can floating around. Fuckin A (or Eh) Batman!!!! A solid mission with real support would go a long way. Perhaps even to the moon. Hell. It worked before. |
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Posted: 1/13/2011 6:36:45 PM EDT
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They became a joke from the 80's and onward. It needs to be completely liquidated and get a fresh new start. Fire everyone, cancel all contracts, get all new people in at reasonable pay, and set forth a few SOLID objectives instead of chickenshit kiddy experiments. -Build a moon colony. -Find a way to get to Mars. -Martian colony. You know, the type of shit that made America proud. Not playing with mice in a tin can floating around. They've already figured out several ways to get to Mars. The problem is getting enough support to fund any of them. As I recall, one of the Apollo astronauts has been pushing for a system of 3 space stations, each set in an eliptical orbit that passes Earth on the low part of it's orbit, and passes Mars on the high part of it's orbit. End result, fuel cost is limited to getting crew and supplies to and from the rendezvous point for the space station, and another ride comes along every few months. Once the 3 stations are built and put into their orbits, trips to and from Mars would be nearly free (relative to normal costs of space travel). |
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Posted: 1/13/2011 6:39:19 PM EDT
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Muslim outreach
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Posted: 1/13/2011 6:39:54 PM EDT
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Just another issue where we can find out that President Obama is full of crap. He hates private business and corporations. He wants the government to control all of that. Except NASA... He is saying private industry can explore space. Oh, and he'll refuse to drill here and give a South American country US Tax dollars to drill for themselves... This is just more of Barry punishing the US for being the best.
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Posted: 1/13/2011 7:29:41 PM EDT
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1) The elites don't want an educated and intelligent populace. They are too hard to control and manipulate. A real space program would encourage millions of Americans to choose careers in engineering and the hard sciences. Instead, young Americans are choosing to major in business and Xbox.
2) The New World Order believes that colonization of other planets may lead to a "new America" which will be a thorn in their side. Just as colonization of the western hemisphere resulted in rugged and intelligent individuals creating America, colonization of other planets and solar systems may result in the same. 3) The powers that be don't want their minions to have access to the technologies that a revitalized space program would bring about. |
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Posted: 1/13/2011 7:31:43 PM EDT
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As I recall, one of the Apollo astronauts has been pushing for a system of 3 space stations, each set in an eliptical orbit that passes Earth on the low part of it's orbit, and passes Mars on the high part of it's orbit. End result, fuel cost is limited to getting crew and supplies to and from the rendezvous point for the space station, and another ride comes along every few months. Once the 3 stations are built and put into their orbits, trips to and from Mars would be nearly free (relative to normal costs of space travel). Zubrin said a few years ago that a Mars colony could be done for $20 billion. Funny how they can always find trillions for wars and the bankers, but not for a real space program. |
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Posted: 1/13/2011 7:42:19 PM EDT
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They had a nice rebirth when those landers succeeded in getting pictures of Mar's surface, then the one wrecked because some data was in standard while others in metric. Everyone lost hope after that, and nothing awesome has happened. Nasa never capitalized on that at all.
We do have the space station but as far as I can see it's year-to-year operations are uninteresting and is really only a launch site for satellites and fixing them. |
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Posted: 1/13/2011 7:45:04 PM EDT
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How in the does space exploration help improve our standing on the Arab Street?
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Posted: 1/13/2011 8:28:26 PM EDT
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One Bad Ass Mistake America.
Get It? |
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Posted: 1/13/2011 8:31:46 PM EDT
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It gave me pinkeye.
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Posted: 1/13/2011 8:35:45 PM EDT
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It went the way of any government program. Something that vaguely sounded like a good idea turned into an exercise in justifying its own budget.
The sooner it dies the better. Oh, and shockingly enough, I appear to be in before the people claiming NASA is responsible for everything invented since 1673. They'll be along shortly. |
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Posted: 1/13/2011 8:46:50 PM EDT
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Its funny that everyone slams Obama, but forget that he directed NASA to give a ton of contracts to the company where real innovation and progress will come from - SpaceX.
Who cares about Ares V when SpaceX can do it cheaper than the Russians? Why care about going to the moon with NASA when we'll have private tickets available in the next few years? The best thing that can happen is that NASA gets out of the way of Elon Musk and SpaceX. Let them launch astronauts (which it seems NASA really wants to screw them over on), and let them do what private businesses can do - build it better, faster, cheaper. Oh, for those interested, you can learn more about buying a ticket to the moon here: http://www.spaceadventures.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=Lunar.welcome |
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