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Posted: 10/21/2001 6:30:55 AM EDT
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ultramax is ok for plinking, do not shoot fmj, accuracy is too poor. blackhills is excellent. if you go to the ammo site here on ar15 you will see a whole review on different types of ammo.
all depends on what you want, accuracy or plinking. [beer] Quoted: Hey Guys, I bought a Bushmaster 16" with AK brake a few weeks ago and am looking to get both some good clean (fail to fire, jams and so forth) .223 plinking rounds and self defense rounds. What do you think of Ultramax & S&B for plinking and what is your favorite ss109 & m193 rounds. Bottom line, what do you like, why and where do you get it? As far as self defense goes, what would you trust your life to? No homemade reloads please as I have no reloading supplies at this time. Thanks for the read guys & your help. Steve. |
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Posted: 10/21/2001 6:35:28 AM EDT
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Just about any SS109,it's make my gun happy to[:)]
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Posted: 10/21/2001 6:37:44 AM EDT
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I prefer accuracy with good knockdown power of course for both plinking & self defense, I have been hearing good things about Blackhills, what grain is preferred and the best place to get it?
Anyone tested the S&B SS109 rounds to see how well they work? I do have some IMI SS109 coming in the mail this week that was made about a year ago. Or perhaps I should ask what NOT to buy instead :) Thanks. Steve. |
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Posted: 10/21/2001 6:44:36 AM EDT
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geogia precision, buy it in 1000 rnd cases.
[beer] Quoted: I prefer accuracy with good knockdown power of course for both plinking & self defense, I have been hearing good things about Blackhills, what grain is preferred and the best place to get it? Anyone tested the S&B SS109 rounds to see how well they work? Or perhaps I should ask what NOT to buy instead :) Thanks. Steve. |
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Posted: 10/21/2001 6:48:42 AM EDT
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As far as plinking goes, I've had great luck with the South African stuff in the battle packs. And I just got some Guatemalan stuff, and it's pretty good too.
As far as the SS109, I'd save that stuff back for a rainy day. A little bit expensive for plinking. The mag prices aren't bad, but look around on this board, and on SubGuns ad board and you might come across some better deals. Buy as many as possible. I've got twenty 30 rounders, and one 20 rounder, and I still keep my eyes out for a good deal. Anyway, hope this helps. |
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Posted: 10/21/2001 6:49:06 AM EDT
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Where are some good places to find Geogia Precision and does it need to be in such large lots or can I get a smaller lot to test it out first?
Thanks for you help. Steve. |
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Posted: 10/21/2001 6:49:13 AM EDT
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For defense, Hornady TAP urban, 2nd Winchester SIlver Tip BT. The Winchesters are my home defense load as they wont over penetrate through the walls.
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Posted: 10/21/2001 6:55:48 AM EDT
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Forgive my lack knowledge but what is the TAP in the Hornady & the 2nd & the BT in the Win rounds mean? Part of the name or does it mean something else?
I guess what I am asking is can I walk into a local gun store and ask for them by the names you have given and have the clerk know what I am looking for? Take care. Steve. |
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Posted: 10/21/2001 7:01:58 AM EDT
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As far as acuracy, reliability and velocity goes I have been having real good luck with UMC L223R3 Wal Mart has it for $3.95 a box.
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Posted: 10/21/2001 7:27:51 AM EDT
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My experience (and alot of others) shows to stay away from steal cased ammo like Wolf brand. The steal case and laquered finish just seam to cause problems for the AR. S&B has always done very well in my AR. Check out [url]www.ammoman.com[/url] for good prices and excellent service.
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Posted: 10/21/2001 7:38:04 AM EDT
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Houston Cartridge Co. sells some really good .223. I have been buying it for 2 or 3 years. It's once fired Lake City brass with 55gr FMJ & 26gr of AA 2230. Accurate & reliable & only $130 per 1000rds.
1-800-776-6717 ColtShorty GOA KABA COA JPFO SAF NRA "I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted and I won't be laid a hand on. I don't do these things to other people and I require the same from them." |
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Posted: 10/21/2001 7:40:09 AM EDT
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TAP = Tactical Application Police
It was developed as a law enforcement round but is commmercially available. 62 gr ballistic tip bullet. 2nd = my 2nd choice. TAP is my #1 choice. The Winchester Silvertip Ballistic tips are a 42 gr bullet. Yes both are available. |
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Posted: 10/21/2001 7:42:31 AM EDT
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georgiaprecision.com ammoman.com also try: cabellas sportsman guide dallas reloading service 1-972-556-2565 |
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Posted: 10/21/2001 9:58:20 AM EDT
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Quoted: georgiaprecision.com ammoman.com also try: cabellas sportsman guide dallas reloading service 1-972-556-2565 Do you use Dallas R S? I know they sell alot at the Ammo depot. I wont use the stuff. Only curious. GG |
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Posted: 10/21/2001 10:21:37 AM EDT
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Georgia Arms
[url]www.georgia-arms.com[/url] ...has some good 55gr. FMJ reloads. Used to be around $125-130 per 1000, now it's jumped up to $150/1000, most likely because of the national situation. Hey Shorty, does Houston Cartridge Co. have a website by chance? For $130/1000, and using Lake City brass no doubt, I might want to give these guys' loads a shot. |
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Posted: 10/21/2001 10:28:04 AM EDT
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I bought a 1000 rds of Dallas Reload Supplies last month at the gun show. It was 55 gr sp.
Accuracy was minimal, but acceptable. Probably 2.5 -3 inches at 100 yrds, leupold scope, sandbags. From a rifle that shoots 1" with 68 gr bthp from black hills. No misfires on about 400 rds. Should work great for plinking. I also bought some vmax reloads, slightly more accurate. I have also shot Houston cartridge co. They are about the same. I guess I have to ppony up for the black hills stuff when I want accuracy. Maybe a new upper crom CLE too. :) WL |
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Posted: 10/21/2001 10:36:56 AM EDT
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Black Hills is the best factory ammo I have shot. Terrific stuff.
Only way to get better accuracy IMHO would be to handload. |
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Posted: 10/21/2001 10:53:26 AM EDT
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Black Hills reloads are just fine. Also for practice, American Eagle (Federal)is my top choice... very good, consistent ammo. Clean burning, too. The yellow box UMC (Remington) is also pretty good.
For serious social work, I like the IMI M855, probably the best of the cheap stuff. Just picked up some SA battle packs ('85 mfg), don't know about them, have not shot them yet. |
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Posted: 10/21/2001 10:53:54 AM EDT
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The best surplus ammo was the Canadian SS109 - C77. I wish it were available again.
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Posted: 10/21/2001 10:57:24 AM EDT
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Oh, the mags you have are just fine. I would have on hand at least 10 to 12 mags per rifle.
Good mags are Adventure Line, Parsons, Center, Labelle, Bushmaster, DPMS, Sanchez, OKay, most any of the 30 rnd USGI mags. Avoid at all costs Cooper Industries (poor body welds and week springs). |
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Posted: 10/21/2001 11:01:27 AM EDT
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Quoted: Houston Cartridge Co. sells some really good .223. I have been buying it for 2 or 3 years. It's once fired Lake City brass with 55gr FMJ & 26gr of AA 2230. Accurate & reliable & only $130 per 1000rds. 1-800-776-6717 Careful with that stuff Colt. Several local ranges here in Houston have banned the use of it after guns have detonated. Apparantly they used to be good, but they've gotten into the habit of double charging and even not chraging handgun rounds. I haven't heard about their rifle stuff. Just thought I'd warn you. T's Guns and Ammo in the Houston area, OTOH, is awesome. |
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Posted: 10/21/2001 12:31:52 PM EDT
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bought a 1000 rnds of 55 gr. soft tip for my buddy. he liked it. they load match ammo also.
some are loaded with ballistic tips. any caliber. looks like good quality. Originally Posted By Gun Guru: Quoted: georgiaprecision.com ammoman.com also try: cabellas sportsman guide dallas reloading service 1-972-556-2565 Do you use Dallas R S? I know they sell alot at the Ammo depot. I wont use the stuff. Only curious. GG |
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Posted: 10/21/2001 1:00:39 PM EDT
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UMC 55 grain is great blasting ammo with not too bad accuracy. As far as mags go I just picked up 6 Thermolds from RGUNS at $17 apiece, they all look brand new and worked very well, no jams at all.
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Posted: 10/21/2001 1:09:59 PM EDT
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Cheaper than dirt has Winchester 55gr FMJ reloadable as low as .19 a round ($191 per 1000).
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Posted: 10/21/2001 1:37:07 PM EDT
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I just got some Black hills 55 grain blue box from Georgia Precision and it is very nice ammo. Highly recommended. I also got some Winchester Q3131A from Ammoman which is also a very nice round. Both Georgia Precision and Ammoman have been great sources of quality ammo for me. If you want to get some match grade, high precision stuff, talk to Tommy at Georgia Precision. He is very knowledgable about the products he sells.
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Posted: 10/21/2001 1:48:12 PM EDT
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I just wanted to add that while some people don't really care too much about what they put through thier weapon whle plinking, I am one of the picky shooter who treats his weapon like a member of the family. These are very expensive weapons, so I recommend being picky about what kind of junk you put through it. You wouldn't put 'Gaseteria' regular gas in a fine automobile such as a Ferarri F-360, right? Some may disagree with me on this, but I shot my first real weapon in the Marines and so that is where I learned how to treat my weapon. They are very strict when it comes to the use and care of thier rifles, and so am I when it comes to mine. Good luck and happy shooting.
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Posted: 10/21/2001 5:10:48 PM EDT
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Quoted: Georgia Arms [url]www.georgia-arms.com[/url] ...has some good 55gr. FMJ reloads. Used to be around $125-130 per 1000, now it's jumped up to $150/1000, most likely because of the national situation. Hey Shorty, does Houston Cartridge Co. have a website by chance? For $130/1000, and using Lake City brass no doubt, I might want to give these guys' loads a shot. I've never seen a website for them listed in their adds. ColtShorty GOA KABA COA JPFO SAF NRA "I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted and I won't be laid a hand on. I don't do these things to other people and I require the same from them." |
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Posted: 10/21/2001 5:19:44 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Houston Cartridge Co. sells some really good .223. I have been buying it for 2 or 3 years. It's once fired Lake City brass with 55gr FMJ & 26gr of AA 2230. Accurate & reliable & only $130 per 1000rds. 1-800-776-6717 Careful with that stuff Colt. Several local ranges here in Houston have banned the use of it after guns have detonated. Apparantly they used to be good, but they've gotten into the habit of double charging and even not chraging handgun rounds. I haven't heard about their rifle stuff. Just thought I'd warn you. T's Guns and Ammo in the Houston area, OTOH, is awesome. I've never used their handgun loads, sounds like I should'nt either. I've never had any problems with their .223, don't have to worry about a double charge but a squib load can be just as dangerous. I do appreciate the warning though!! ColtShorty GOA KABA COA JPFO SAF NRA "I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted and I won't be laid a hand on. I don't do these things to other people and I require the same from them." |
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Posted: 10/21/2001 5:29:33 PM EDT
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I shoot mainly UMC .223 through my ar-15.
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