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Posted: 4/18/2016 10:59:25 PM EDT
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My dad bought one in 45-70. I don't think he was satisfied with the accuracy. Sold it and went with a Marlin Lever instead.
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Posted: 4/18/2016 11:01:23 PM EDT
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I've heard of issues with them keeping a repeatable zero. That said savage makes the axis which isn't far off the price point mark and is far better
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Posted: 4/18/2016 11:01:43 PM EDT
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I've seen people get great groups out of them. If you google it you can find a diy for working the trigger over.
Ruger American bolt gun is pretty cheap and has an adjustable trigger? |
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Posted: 4/18/2016 11:03:32 PM EDT
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My nieces each have the "youth model" which were used as their "deer rifles." Each shoots into about 2" with my handloads (Win. 64 gr. PowerPoints) and they love them.
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Posted: 4/18/2016 11:05:10 PM EDT
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Not very interesting. But I assume they are sturdy.
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Posted: 4/18/2016 11:05:49 PM EDT
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Had one in .223 it had a 1:14 twist barrel, the least accurate rifle I had ever owned, I put 100 rds thru it and sold it. Could not shoot a group the size of a folgers coffee can laying on its side.
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Posted: 4/18/2016 11:06:03 PM EDT
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Supposedly H&R / NEF went out of business.
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Posted: 4/18/2016 11:28:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Supposedly H&R / NEF went out of business. |
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Posted: 4/18/2016 11:33:26 PM EDT
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IME, folks get all nostalgic over a single shot and get one of these only to grow tired of it 90% of the time and sell it.
IF you want a single shot to enjoy, get a No. 1 and be done. |
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Posted: 4/18/2016 11:39:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Supposedly H&R / NEF went out of business. http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/36_262/products_id/89086/New+England+SB2-S43+HANDI-RIFLE+SYN+243 |
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Posted: 4/18/2016 11:48:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I do think they were shut down, even if the rifles are still out there Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Supposedly H&R / NEF went out of business. http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/36_262/products_id/89086/New+England+SB2-S43+HANDI-RIFLE+SYN+243 Given all the "out of stock" rifles at Buds, I believe it |
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Posted: 4/18/2016 11:49:50 PM EDT
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So, it sounds like I'm much farther ahead by spending $200 on a lower and using my 16 upper for this toy, and adding a scope.
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Posted: 4/18/2016 11:57:19 PM EDT
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I own two. I like them both.
An NEF Sportster in 17 HMR. I paid $99 for it. Really accurate. Trigger is so-so. I have the old Bushnell 10x Elite scope on it. Very accurate. Useless caliber but tons of fun anyway. A H&R/1871 Buffalo Classic in 45/70 It's great. I added a proper Williams receiver sight and it gets way out there, accurately. It's been my main trunk bumming-around-gun for a few years. If you see one grab it. It's one of the better guns NEF/H&R made in recent years. Get one made before Big Green fucked up the quality |
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Posted: 4/19/2016 12:05:45 AM EDT
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I do think they were shut down, even if the rifles are still out there Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Supposedly H&R / NEF went out of business. http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/36_262/products_id/89086/New+England+SB2-S43+HANDI-RIFLE+SYN+243 Looks like they're still in business under the H&R 1871 brand name. "We will discontinue the use of the New England Firearms brand name on our current firearms but not on firearm parts. There will be no product changes." http://www.hr1871.com/Brandtransition/ |
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Posted: 4/19/2016 12:10:31 AM EDT
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I got one in 45-70 as a handloading testbed. They are strong actions, much more than my shoulder. I put a whole box of high-end Marlin-level loads through mine without any issues other than developing a severe flinch. For the price it isn't bad, and the weight is nice if you want to take it overland any real distance.
In 223 I'd get a cheap bolt gun instead. The H&R is nearly the same price and the bolt-action isn't much heavier (but much more useful). |
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Posted: 4/19/2016 12:29:52 AM EDT
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I have 4 and never ever had any kind of problem. I have never heard of them having a problem holding zero. How is that even possible with the scope mount on the barrel?
I have the survivor model in 223 with heavy barrel. Its far more accurate then I am and has taken coyotes, deer and pigs. Paid a tad over 200 for it. I have one in 243 and it has taken deer and pigs, shoots great, never any issues. Paid 200 for it. Got a 12 gauge for my son and a youth 20 gauge for my daughter. No problems with either one shooting any and all ammo. Paid 125 each for them both. They aren't fancy and wont win a beauty contest but they are stupid simple, built like a tank and go bang every time you need it to. |
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Posted: 4/19/2016 12:38:50 AM EDT
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You can(could) buy extra barrels for cheap. You sent the receiver back to have the barrels fitted to the frame. Tons of different calibers.
I have one with a heavy barrel .223, a 30.06, and a three-inch rifled 12 gauge slug barrel. The .223, even with cheap glass is accurate and the 30.06 punishes on both ends. The slug barrel is an odd duck. It has sights, but it's hard to see them because it's hard to get a good cheek weld on the stock. It will also stomp a mudhole in your butt with 3-inch shells. 
Also, be aware there are two different frames for these rifles. I think the 12 gauge shotgun frame will handle all centerfire rifles. The smaller .22 and 20 gauge frames will not. |
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Posted: 4/19/2016 12:58:51 AM EDT
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I've got the Hand .300AAC as a suppressor and night vision host. I'm satisfied with accuracy.
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Posted: 4/19/2016 1:13:58 AM EDT
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Had a heavy barreled one in a Choate stock. It never would shoot right offhand due to varying pressure points with a sling. It was spooky accurate from a bench. Finally got rid of it after finding out it was physically impossible to free float the barrel and still keep a sling.
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Posted: 4/19/2016 1:19:49 AM EDT
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An old trick with them is to place an o ring between the front handguard and the barrel over the screw that secures the forearm to the barrel, thus freefloating the barrel. Makes a difference.
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Posted: 4/19/2016 1:26:28 AM EDT
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Looks like they're still in business under the H&R 1871 brand name. "We will discontinue the use of the New England Firearms brand name on our current firearms but not on firearm parts. There will be no product changes." http://www.hr1871.com/Brandtransition/ Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Supposedly H&R / NEF went out of business. http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/36_262/products_id/89086/New+England+SB2-S43+HANDI-RIFLE+SYN+243 Looks like they're still in business under the H&R 1871 brand name. "We will discontinue the use of the New England Firearms brand name on our current firearms but not on firearm parts. There will be no product changes." http://www.hr1871.com/Brandtransition/ Try calling. They're out of business, currently. |
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Posted: 4/19/2016 1:38:08 AM EDT
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An old trick with them is to place an o ring between the front handguard and the barrel over the screw that secures the forearm to the barrel, thus freefloating the barrel. Makes a difference. ^^^^^^Yep. O ring make it day and night when shooting. On the lager calibers 45 Colt,44 mag, 444 and 45-70 slug the barrel and check the diameter. Many shoot great with cast bullets. |
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Posted: 4/19/2016 1:40:11 AM EDT
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Try calling. They're out of business, currently. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Supposedly H&R / NEF went out of business. http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/36_262/products_id/89086/New+England+SB2-S43+HANDI-RIFLE+SYN+243 Looks like they're still in business under the H&R 1871 brand name. "We will discontinue the use of the New England Firearms brand name on our current firearms but not on firearm parts. There will be no product changes." http://www.hr1871.com/Brandtransition/ Try calling. They're out of business, currently. |
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Posted: 4/19/2016 1:57:31 AM EDT
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IME, folks get all nostalgic over a single shot and get one of these only to grow tired of it 90% of the time and sell it. IF you want a single shot to enjoy, get a No. 1 TC contender or encore and be done. FIFY Speed |
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Posted: 4/19/2016 9:46:56 AM EDT
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They are closed and out of business, the last employee Brian was let go sometime last year. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I do think they were shut down, even if the rifles are still out there Looks like they're still in business under the H&R 1871 brand name. "We will discontinue the use of the New England Firearms brand name on our current firearms but not on firearm parts. There will be no product changes." http://www.hr1871.com/Brandtransition/ Try calling. They're out of business, currently. They are closed and out of business, the last employee Brian was let go sometime last year. They're part of Remington/Freedom Group, and still shipping rifles as far as I'm aware. |
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Posted: 4/19/2016 10:31:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Looks like they're still in business under the H&R 1871 brand name. "We will discontinue the use of the New England Firearms brand name on our current firearms but not on firearm parts. There will be no product changes." http://www.hr1871.com/Brandtransition/ Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Supposedly H&R / NEF went out of business. http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/36_262/products_id/89086/New+England+SB2-S43+HANDI-RIFLE+SYN+243 Looks like they're still in business under the H&R 1871 brand name. "We will discontinue the use of the New England Firearms brand name on our current firearms but not on firearm parts. There will be no product changes." http://www.hr1871.com/Brandtransition/ |
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Posted: 4/19/2016 10:36:10 AM EDT
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Had one in .223 it had a 1:14 twist barrel, the least accurate rifle I had ever owned, I put 100 rds thru it and sold it. Could not shoot a group the size of a folgers coffee can laying on its side. I had the same issue, same twist, until I started using Winchester White Box Varmint rounds, 45 gr hollow point. It will shoot MOA with those. ETA I had the heavy barrel. |
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Posted: 4/19/2016 10:44:52 AM EDT
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I've got a Survivor HB .223 that I had cut and threaded. Fun little gun. I also had a .45Colt/.410 barrel fitted, but haven't shot it in that configuration.
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Posted: 4/19/2016 10:45:16 AM EDT
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Same as many above...every one I've seen wouldn't group for shit.
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Posted: 4/19/2016 10:48:09 AM EDT
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... I have never heard of them having a problem holding zero. How is that even possible with the scope mount on the barrel? ... The barrel heats up as you shoot and expands thus changing the dynamics of the of the scope base/mounts, shifting POA. The Ruger #1 has the same problem. |
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Posted: 4/19/2016 12:11:03 PM EDT
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I've got one in .270 with a Nikon Prostaff scope.
Three shot groups about 1 MOA. I don't shoot more than that as I don't want to heat up the barrel. In the field, hunting deer, I'll only be doing a shot or two anyway. I love the light weight and how small it is, points great, good trigger. |
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Posted: 4/19/2016 12:13:04 PM EDT
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I always figured they would be a good option as a cabin rifle, something you get for cheap and leave there. Get one in a universal caliber of some sort.
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Posted: 4/19/2016 12:16:02 PM EDT
[#33]
yes
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Posted: 4/19/2016 12:24:32 PM EDT
[#34]
Mine took a shit in 45/70 Wont fire and its a known issue with the firing pin hitting off center. I have it at a buddys house who is a new gun smith so he can play with it and try to fix it. Another friend has same rifle in 444. Action was not completely locked shut when he fired causing the front end to fly downward and hit the outside of the box blind losing his zero by 3 inches. Besides that the design is sound but I dont think he current execution is good
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Posted: 4/19/2016 12:33:46 PM EDT
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I knew a guy that had one in 22 Hornet, was a fairly accurate rifle especially considering how much it cost.
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Posted: 4/19/2016 12:38:16 PM EDT
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I have a 300 bo and a 357 handi rifle and I'm always looking out for more at a decent price. For me the part where they really shine is for reloaders and as suppressor hosts.
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Posted: 4/19/2016 12:50:25 PM EDT
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Had a .223. Real inaccurate POS. I actually sent it back and they sent me some target with a better then 1" group. I sent them some pictures of some of my groups with my thumpers, after first recomfirming the .223 wouldnt shoot worth a damn, and told them not only did they make a crap product but they are Liars. Then I gave the rifle away.
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Posted: 4/19/2016 12:53:01 PM EDT
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Had a .223. Real inaccurate POS. I actually sent it back and they sent me some target with a better then 1" group. I sent them some pictures of some of my groups with my thumpers, after first recomfirming the .223 wouldnt shoot worth a damn, and told them not only did they make a crap product but they are Liars. Then I gave the rifle away. http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/Rich46yo/outdoors/shoot-1.jpg What bullet weight were you using? 
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Posted: 4/19/2016 5:06:34 PM EDT
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My friend's 45/70 doesn't group worth a darn.
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Posted: 4/19/2016 5:27:49 PM EDT
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I'd love one in 50 Beowulf.
My shop had one in .500 S&W I was eyeballing.. |
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Posted: 4/19/2016 5:29:00 PM EDT
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I thought about getting one in some big ass caliber, but I really prefer semis.
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Posted: 4/19/2016 5:33:22 PM EDT
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I've a .45-75 Shikari and it's very accurate but I stick to Trapdoor level loadings.
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Posted: 4/19/2016 5:37:03 PM EDT
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I've got the Hand .300AAC as a suppressor and night vision host. I'm satisfied with accuracy. pics? |
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Posted: 4/19/2016 5:46:10 PM EDT
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From what I hear from people I know the same mixed bag as I see posted here .
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