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Posted: 4/22/2016 12:55:28 PM EDT
Does anyone really know what affect this would have?  I'm pretty sure some people would die, global warming would be blamed and my taxes would go up.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 12:57:43 PM EDT
Katrina x100.
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Lois Lane is going to die
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OK Al Gore.
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San Andreas isn't the big risk.

The big risk is the Juan de Fuca plate under Oregon.  

Shallow subduction angle and long period of dormancy.

When it slips again, the resulting earthquake will be a lot more like the devastating Chile or Alaska quakes.

In Alaska, the quake was so massive that solid ground liquified and entire floors of buildings just sank into the ground.
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Does anyone really know what affect this would have?  I'm pretty sure some people would die, global warming would be blamed and my taxes would go up.
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Either event would have a devastating effect on the US economy.  It will take decades to recover.

An at least equally likely and devastating event would be a major earthquake in or near the state of Washington or an eruption of Mount Rainier.

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California slides into the ocean.

Like the mystics and statistics say it will.
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Statistics indicate an equal likelihood of everything east of the fault sliding into the Atlantic Ocean.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 1:04:04 PM EDT
Who knows.........that shit could be biblical.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 1:04:46 PM EDT
When I was stationed at Norton AFB in San Bernardino, the disaster preparedness folks told us over and over that if the San Andreas let loose, San Bernardino would pretty much cease to exist.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 1:04:52 PM EDT
Either a hilacious homeowners insurance rate incease or cancellation all together.
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what was the date of that one?
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I predict this hotel will be standing... until I pay my bill.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 1:06:18 PM EDT
Bad things

But then again, it will be a boon to the construction industry.
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San Andreas isn't the big risk.

The big risk is the Juan de Fuca plate under Oregon.  

Shallow subduction angle and long period of dormancy.

When it slips again, the resulting earthquake will be a lot more like the devastating Chile or Alaska quakes.

In Alaska, the quake was so massive that solid ground liquified and entire floors of buildings just sank into the ground.
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There you go again. Blaming illegals for all our problems.

Geology and plate tectonics are racist.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 1:07:57 PM EDT
Gun confiscation
Disbanding of the Constitution for "emergency purposes"
$5 trillion emergency bailout
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 1:08:09 PM EDT
I've read that it would be game over if the New Madrid erupted. Most of the bridged that truckers use crossing the country would be taken out and grocery stores only have a three day inventory. It would take a lot longer than three days to fix enough of the bridges.

It would be looting, murders, and fire in the streets.

And cats and dogs like going together.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 1:09:15 PM EDT
San Angeles will be created.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 1:09:54 PM EDT
"Cut loose" ?     Meaning What?

It's pretty easy to extrapolate, if we are to assume the the historical precedent.    

The most interesting effect would be the US and Global markets.       They would collapse in the short term, followed by a shot of stimulus that would make the TARP look like a warm cup of herbal tea.    

The dollar dies a little more, but it would represent a great buying opportunity in the Stock Market.  Get your CAT buys teed up and ready to go!
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Homeowners policies explicitly exclude losses caused by earthquakes.  If your house gets shaken apart you had best pray that it catches on fire too.

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Link Posted: 4/22/2016 1:11:55 PM EDT
count on an invasion of foreign powers descending like vultures claiming to be angels of mercy
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I've read that it would be game over if the New Madrid erupted. Most of the bridged that truckers use crossing the country would be taken out and grocery stores only have a three day inventory. It would take a lot longer than three days to fix enough of the bridges.

It would be looting, murders, and fire in the streets.

And cats and dogs like going together.
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"And behold! A white horse, and he who sat on it had a bow;. . "

So kinda like that??
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 1:13:09 PM EDT
California tumbles into the sea...
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 1:13:12 PM EDT
New Madrid would likely be felt further than San Andreas in terms of its impact on the economy, logistics, food supply, and so on.  I mean - lets face it, CA is already a lost cause.  
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 1:14:32 PM EDT
Life will go on. Or it won't for some.
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what was the date of that one?
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In Alaska, the quake was so massive that solid ground liquified and entire floors of buildings just sank into the ground.


what was the date of that one?


Magnatude 9.2.

1964:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1964_Alaska_earthquake
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OK Al Gore.
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OK Al Gore.



Non Sequitur

Defn: WTF?  


Link Posted: 4/22/2016 1:18:42 PM EDT
All the sinking in the ocean stuff is from Edgar Cayce.  However, he did have a good track record, especially claiming "plates" of the earth's crust, etc.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 1:19:34 PM EDT
I will find out just how good my earthquake rider on my homeowners policy is....
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Homeowners policies explicitly exclude losses caused by earthquakes.  If your house gets shaken apart you had best pray that it catches on fire too.

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So in other words keep a box of matches handy
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I've read that it would be game over if the New Madrid erupted. Most of the bridged that truckers use crossing the country would be taken out and grocery stores only have a three day inventory. It would take a lot longer than three days to fix enough of the bridges.

It would be looting, murders, and fire in the streets.

And cats and dogs like going together.
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Getting across the Mississippi by vehicle would be impossible for a long while.  They'd have to barge supplies in...assuming they had a serviceable port.
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+1 always carried it and the insurance guy always acts like I am crazy since I live in central Illinois.
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San Andreas isn't the big risk.

The big risk is the Juan de Fuca plate under Oregon.  

Shallow subduction angle and long period of dormancy.

When it slips again, the resulting earthquake will be a lot more like the devastating Chile or Alaska quakes.

In Alaska, the quake was so massive that solid ground liquified and entire floors of buildings just sank into the ground.
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This.  Just saw a story on this last night.  Even with a 7.9 (the highest possible with the San Adreas fault) they estimate 1800 dead and some cracking but not huge chasms or the state falling into the sea.  Apparently all the big buildings have been successfully modded and constructed.

And no tsunamis, the quake has to occur at sea for a tsunami.  2012 and San Andreas lied!!!
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 1:22:30 PM EDT
I'm not familiar with west coast soils but a lot of the ground in the Midwest is going to get squirrely with liquefaction.

It will be a crazy mess. Lot of dead people, buildings and bridges down or unsafe, food shortages, water and sewer lines broken leading to out of control fires and disease.

Oh, and last big new Madrid quake made the Mississippi River run backwards for a bit if I remember correctly from a geology class 20 years ago.


Link Posted: 4/22/2016 1:23:15 PM EDT
As for the New Madrid, look up the formation of Reelfoot lake in northwestern TN.

The MS river flowed backwards for a couple of days to fill it up.
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x10

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what was the date of that one?
March 27, 1964


 
Downtown Anchorage:



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When New Madrid goes again (it is overdue) it will love St. Louis tenderly, like a Marine in Bangkok on leave from Vietnam taking the first hooker he sees.

Memphis will lose every building over 3 stories, nothing of downtown will remain after the Mississippi washes it clean.  

Not out of the realm of possibility that we see severe damage as far off as Nashville, Little Rock, Louisville.  Not world-ending for those places, but they will hurt.

I will be on State Active Duty for over a year, I should think.

This is the scenario that Kentucky Emergency Management practices for every year.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 1:27:16 PM EDT
4 regions of the Agency I worked for ( for 26 years)  got together and did a revamped response plan in 2007.......It was also part of the "Catastrophic Annex" to the National Response Framework.....

Figure 12 million people in the "high risk" areas.....probably 16 by now.....

After the incident, the fires, the dam/levee failures, the US&R, sheltering, temporary housing, long term recovery, the worst would set in.....the long term economic impact and restoring infrastructure.....

It's on par with WW3.....and with what DHS and Fugate have done with FEMA over the past few years, it might be worse.....the whole agency is now run by ex-Coast Guard flunkies with little to no real emergency management background......

I'll be getting a debris removal contract.....

Link Posted: 4/22/2016 1:27:30 PM EDT
The Sierra's weren't made because the plates are pulling CA away, think of it as Plan B for invading Nevada/Arizona etc
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I've read that it would be game over if the New Madrid erupted. Most of the bridged that truckers use crossing the country would be taken out and grocery stores only have a three day inventory. It would take a lot longer than three days to fix enough of the bridges.

It would be looting, murders, and fire in the streets.

And cats and dogs like going together.
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So... business as usual in Memphis and East St. Louis then?

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I can guarantee that mine will burn to the foundation just as the earthquake strikes.  Along with everyone elses in the neighborhood.
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When New Madrid goes again (it is overdue) it will love St. Louis tenderly, like a Marine in Bangkok on leave from Vietnam taking the first hooker he sees.

Memphis will lose every building over 3 stories, nothing of downtown will remain after the Mississippi washes it clean.  

Not out of the realm of possibility that we see severe damage as far off as Nashville, Little Rock, Louisville.  Not world-ending for those places, but they will hurt.

I will be on State Active Duty for over a year, I should think.

This is the scenario that Kentucky Emergency Management practices for every year.
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Can I get that guaranteed in writing?
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Katrina x100.


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x 2356
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That said, I predict this hotel will still be standing...  Until I pay my bill.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 1:33:38 PM EDT
pretty much this.


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So...Costa to the rescue?
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4 regions of the Agency I worked for ( for 26 years)  got together and did a revamped response plan in 2007.......It was also part of the "Catastrophic Annex" to the National Response Framework.....

Figure 12 million people in the "high risk" areas.....probably 16 by now.....

After the incident, the fires, the dam/levee failures, the US&R, sheltering, temporary housing, long term recovery, the worst would set in.....the long term economic impact and restoring infrastructure.....

It's on par with WW3.....and with what DHS and Fugate have done with FEMA over the past few years, it might be worse.....the whole agency is now run by ex-Coast Guard flunkies with little to no real emergency management background......

I'll be getting a debris removal contract.....



So...Costa to the rescue?


Worse

eta: there are some smart folks in charge of Response/Recovery.......the real buffoonery is up near the "top".....
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There is a huge lake system and documented reports as the aftermath the last time New Madrid let go in a big way.  Next time millions will be affected directly.

Bridges from St. Louis to Memphis would fall down, not just close.  There are two ferries between St. Louis and the lower end of the boothill.

I had a dream about a volcano rising up near New Madrid.  It was tall enough to see from St. Louis and had snow cover at the top after just a few days.  Made a beautiful sight in my dream.

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