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Posted: 2/21/2016 1:34:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/21/2016 1:35:39 PM EDT by Firefoxammo]
Curious to know what you would be charged with for an ol' fashioned fist fight these days. Assuming , the two parties agreed on said fight?

Link Posted: 2/21/2016 1:38:03 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Firefoxammo:
Curious to know what you would be charged with for an ol' fashioned fist fight these days. Assuming , the two parties agreed on said fight?

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Third Degree Assault by Mutual Combat. Issue citations and have a great day.

Just kidding.  More like "You both done?  Anyone need an ambulance?  Well either knock this off or take it into the county"
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Link Posted: 2/21/2016 1:39:14 PM EDT
depends on the cop I guess , and if any collateral damage
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 1:39:41 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Firefoxammo:
Curious to know what you would be charged with for an ol' fashioned fist fight these days. Assuming , the two parties agreed on said fight?

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I dare you to say that to my face.
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 1:40:05 PM EDT
Some states have mutual combat laws where nobody is charged.  Florida I think.
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 1:40:08 PM EDT
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I have tried about 20 assaults in the past year and a half.  In Texas, any assault causing bodily injury (e.g. pain, physical injury) is a class A misdemeanor, 0-365 jail and/or $0-4000 fine.  Most get probation, some get jail.  Ive put a few away for 200-300 days.

ETA: self defense, reasonable discipline, mutual combat are common defenses.
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 1:40:37 PM EDT
Depends how zealous the DA is.  Clearly neither party will wish to press charges against the other, but the state may charge one or both on the other's behalf. Without their consent. Because justice.
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Link Posted: 2/21/2016 1:47:41 PM EDT
I got a years probation for an assault charge for doing the "point at my eyes and then at you" point and stare.
It made my ex wifes boyfriend fear for his life apparently. Oh well, any dude she brings around my son should have a healthy fear for his life because if anything happens to my son....
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 1:49:13 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By DmacRTCo:
I got a years probation for an assault charge for doing the "point at my eyes and then at you" point and stare.
It made my ex wifes boyfriend fear for his life apparently. Oh well, any dude she brings around my son should have a healthy fear for his life because if anything happens to my son....
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Unless you had reason to believe he'd be a threat to your son that was a pretty fucking stupid thing to do.

This isn't the movies and you're not Sylvester Stallone in 'Cobra'.
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 1:49:42 PM EDT
Remember the college student (a member here) who got into a scuffle with his room mate out in the parking lot?

He was charged with domestic violence.
I don't remember how it all turned out, but I think it ruined his chance to be a lawyer.
In Arizona, I think.
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 1:50:07 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Demosthenes99:


Unless you had reason to believe he'd be a threat to your son that was a pretty fucking stupid thing to do.

This isn't the movies and you're not Sylvester Stallone in 'Cobra'.
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Originally Posted By Demosthenes99:
Originally Posted By DmacRTCo:
I got a years probation for an assault charge for doing the "point at my eyes and then at you" point and stare.
It made my ex wifes boyfriend fear for his life apparently. Oh well, any dude she brings around my son should have a healthy fear for his life because if anything happens to my son....


Unless you had reason to believe he'd be a threat to your son that was a pretty fucking stupid thing to do.

This isn't the movies and you're not Sylvester Stallone in 'Cobra'.

Yes I am.
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 1:51:46 PM EDT
If it's a mutual combat, toe to toe, don't care.

Once it's done it's done. No kicking or punching when one is down.

"You guys done yet?"
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 1:52:52 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By slama682:

Third Degree Assault by Mutual Combat. Issue citations and have a great day.

Just kidding.  More like "You both done?  Anyone need an ambulance?  Well either knock this off or take it into the county"
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Originally Posted By slama682:
Originally Posted By Firefoxammo:
Curious to know what you would be charged with for an ol' fashioned fist fight these days. Assuming , the two parties agreed on said fight?


Third Degree Assault by Mutual Combat. Issue citations and have a great day.

Just kidding.  More like "You both done?  Anyone need an ambulance?  Well either knock this off or take it into the county"


that's been my experience, from the viewpoint of one of the guys in the fight.
no weapons, no serious damage, nobody willing to press charges.
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 1:55:54 PM EDT
What's this "no serious damage" thing?

We fightin' or having a tickle fest?
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Originally Posted By Ridgerunner9876:
What's this "no serious damage" thing?

We fightin' or having a tickle fest?
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Link Posted: 2/21/2016 3:45:33 PM EDT
Affray.  At least that's the charge I may have gotten in NC in the 90"s.
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 3:54:30 PM EDT
If I rolled up on it or got the call to go to it, Disturbing the Peace by Fighting ticket, and part ways.

That is if you were being a complete ass clown about it, if it was understood that both parties were in agreement and no one wanted to pursue charges, gather statements and leave.
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 3:57:50 PM EDT
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I just watched one of my best friends and a tweaker douche bag throw down on college grounds a few months ago. We all three had to talk to the campus poh-lease. That was all that came of it for us two. Just questioning. The tweaker douche bag was on probation, we went from seeing him every day to never seeing him again. I'm guessing he got phucked because of the probation
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Originally Posted By AJE:

This

Probably a minor misdemeanor citation if there's no funny business.

Disorderly conduct is an offense against the state public, so it doesn't depend on the cooperation of either person.
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Originally Posted By AJE:
Originally Posted By midnitecreeper:
depends on the cop I guess , and if any collateral damage

This

Probably a minor misdemeanor citation if there's no funny business.

Disorderly conduct is an offense against the state public, so it doesn't depend on the cooperation of either person.


Need to have a bystander that was disturbed or inconvenienced by the event, and it cannot be the responding officer.
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 4:05:52 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By DmacRTCo:
I got a years probation for an assault charge for doing the "point at my eyes and then at you" point and stare.
It made my ex wifes boyfriend fear for his life apparently. Oh well, any dude she brings around my son should have a healthy fear for his life because if anything happens to my son....
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LOL we have a bad ass here.
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Link Posted: 2/21/2016 4:08:41 PM EDT
Mutual  combat, no one hurt and no property damage? Probably just sent on your way.
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 4:09:05 PM EDT
If they are a roommate  could potentially  be a domestic violence charge
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 4:10:21 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Firefoxammo:
Curious to know what you would be charged with for an ol' fashioned fist fight these days. Assuming , the two parties agreed on said fight?

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In Oklahoma it is considered mutual combat ( as long as no weapons are involved and no major Injury occurred )

No citation or arrest, just have a nice day. If you do it in public you might get disturbing the peace or if drunk thrown in the drunk tank.
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 4:11:24 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By steelycr:
Mutual  combat, no one hurt and no property damage? Probably just sent on your way.
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Not here, but it depends on the cop. Simple assault / affray, generally community service and unsupervised probation. Seen them get very short suspended sentences with 6 or 12 month supervised probation terms at times, that comes down to the judge.

I have a woman who got two years of supervised probation for throwing a water bottle at her husband... with a suspended sentence of 5 days

But depending on the circumstances it can be a lot or a little.
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 4:13:33 PM EDT
"Good ol' fashioned fist fight"
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Never been in one

When I was younger they were pretty common especially in high school. Almost weekly occurrence where a couple of guys duked it out in the restroom while many watched and someone watched the door for teachers. Fun time, fun times.
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 4:19:26 PM EDT
In Connecticut, there are a variety of charges that could be used depending on the specifics. Those can include Creating a Public Disturbance (an infraction, subcriminal), Disorderly Conduct, Breach of Peace 2d, Assault 3d (or higher degree assault charges in certain instances....).
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 9:33:19 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Ridgerunner9876:
What's this "no serious damage" thing?

We fightin' or having a tickle fest?
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no ambulances asked for or required.

dude, I saw a guy take several hits across the head with a whiskey bottle once and not get medical treatment. He was seeing double...
if a cop saw that or witnesses would swear to it, that would be an arrest and prosecution.
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 9:41:33 PM EDT
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In Oklahoma it is considered mutual combat ( as long as no weapons are involved and no major Injury occurred )

No citation or arrest, just have a nice day. If you do it in public you might get disturbing the peace or if drunk thrown in the drunk tank.
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Originally Posted By home_alone1:
Originally Posted By Firefoxammo:
Curious to know what you would be charged with for an ol' fashioned fist fight these days. Assuming , the two parties agreed on said fight?




In Oklahoma it is considered mutual combat ( as long as no weapons are involved and no major Injury occurred )

No citation or arrest, just have a nice day. If you do it in public you might get disturbing the peace or if drunk thrown in the drunk tank.


Pretty much this in rural Washington back in the '70s.

Couple of drunk farm boys whopping the hell out of each other?

Let them get tired, give them a talking to, take them home to get patched up.

Been there, done that, still got the scar under my chin.
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 9:45:23 PM EDT
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I had a call for this very same thing last night. Two grown adults who mutually fight each other and no one wants to sign complaints against each other or need medics...... Bye. No charges for either, thanks for the 5 min of entertainment.

But to actually answer your question. If physical contact was made its a battery. If serious bodily harm was done or happened in a public street then it's an aggravated battery. If someone was in fear of being hit but wasn't then it's just an assault.
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 9:45:40 PM EDT
Guy I work with did a total of 11 years for 3 separate fights.

The first was a lucky punch manslaughter rap then it just went downhill from there.
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 9:51:17 PM EDT
At my former PD, Disorderly Conduct is a $200 ticket, and Public Drunk is a $400 ticket.
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Originally Posted By PNWRN:


Pretty much this in rural Washington back in the '70s.

Couple of drunk farm boys whopping the hell out of each other?

Let them get tired, give them a talking to, take them home to get patched up.

Been there, done that, still got the scar under my chin.
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Originally Posted By PNWRN:
Originally Posted By home_alone1:
Originally Posted By Firefoxammo:
Curious to know what you would be charged with for an ol' fashioned fist fight these days. Assuming , the two parties agreed on said fight?




In Oklahoma it is considered mutual combat ( as long as no weapons are involved and no major Injury occurred )

No citation or arrest, just have a nice day. If you do it in public you might get disturbing the peace or if drunk thrown in the drunk tank.


Pretty much this in rural Washington back in the '70s.

Couple of drunk farm boys whopping the hell out of each other?

Let them get tired, give them a talking to, take them home to get patched up.

Been there, done that, still got the scar under my chin.


When I was in high school (early 2000's) it was a mandatory suspension.

Nowadays I believe they call the police and have the 'combatants' escorted out in handcuffs.  This is what my brother said when he worked in a high school computer lab for a couple of years.
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Originally Posted By psegnatelli:
Guy I work with did a total of 11 years for 3 separate fights.

The first was a lucky punch manslaughter rap then it just went downhill from there.
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When being  badass goes wrong.
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 9:52:51 PM EDT
In New Mexico they won't arrest you unless they actively catch you in the act of fighting.... Unless your at a bar then they don't have to witness the fight. Not sure what the charge is though. I would guess simple battery (misdemeanor) unless a weapon was used or serious injury occurred. I tend to avoid that kind of stuff though so I could be wrong about the charge.
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 9:56:43 PM EDT
Public Affray in Fl.
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Originally Posted By Ridgerunner9876:
What's this "no serious damage" thing?

We fightin' or having a tickle fest?



When grown men fight; people get hurt.
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 10:01:44 PM EDT
Depends.

With or without the mitigating circumstance of "never meanin' no harm?"
Link Posted: 2/21/2016 10:03:07 PM EDT
It all depends on state OP.

In Virginia, unless witnessed in the presence of an officer, only the victim can swear the warrant out for Assault and Battery.

And if in the presence of an officer, if the victim wishes to press charges, a summons(ticket for assault & battery) will be issued.
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Originally Posted By steelycr:
Mutual  combat, no one hurt and no property damage? Probably just sent on your way.
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This doesn't apply if firearms are involved apparently. Shame really.

Gentlemen used to know how to solve their grievances, shake hands and walk away. Or at least die trying.  

Link Posted: 2/22/2016 1:40:39 AM EDT
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This doesn't apply if firearms are involved apparently. Shame really.

Gentlemen used to know how to solve their grievances, shake hands and walk away. Or at least die trying.  

http://14544-presscdn-0-64.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Gastinne_Renette_French_Dueling_Pistols.jpg
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Originally Posted By steelycr:
Mutual  combat, no one hurt and no property damage? Probably just sent on your way.


This doesn't apply if firearms are involved apparently. Shame really.

Gentlemen used to know how to solve their grievances, shake hands and walk away. Or at least die trying.  

http://14544-presscdn-0-64.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Gastinne_Renette_French_Dueling_Pistols.jpg


I was doing some paperwork the other day and found a code in our system that corresponds with "death by dueling" as a reason code for a charge. I found that really interesting.
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Originally Posted By Demosthenes99:
Unless you had reason to believe he'd be a threat to your son that was a pretty fucking stupid thing to do.



This isn't the movies and you're not Sylvester Stallone in 'Cobra'.
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Originally Posted By DmacRTCo:

I got a years probation for an assault charge for doing the "point at my eyes and then at you" point and stare.

It made my ex wifes boyfriend fear for his life apparently. Oh well, any dude she brings around my son should have a healthy fear for his life because if anything happens to my son....





Unless you had reason to believe he'd be a threat to your son that was a pretty fucking stupid thing to do.



This isn't the movies and you're not Sylvester Stallone in 'Cobra'.




 
This. Where the fuck does that even come from? You almost sound like you're hoping something does happen so you'll get your chance to go all badass bob.
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Originally Posted By Demosthenes99:


Some states have mutual combat laws where nobody is charged.  Florida I think.
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Wa also
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 2:08:00 AM EDT
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Misdemeanor/simple assault.

Comes with a 10 year state level prohibition on firearms possession that from what I understand is a motherfucker to get corrected/removed.

Will also have a seriously negative impact on state level professional licensure too.

If spouse/family member/roommate etc, it is domestic violence so bye bye 2a for life.
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 2:08:34 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Firefoxammo:
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Charged?
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 2:12:13 AM EDT
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Who sticks around for the cops to show up? Get your licks in and bounce.


Eta: I'm too old for dumb street fighting bullshit but that's how we use to do it.
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 2:13:40 AM EDT
Public intoxication, because I'd be pretty drunk to enter into a mutual fight.
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 2:21:41 AM EDT
Three day suspension was standard.

Oh wait.....

Sorry, that was 7th grade. And 11th.
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