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Posted: 8/13/2007 7:47:05 AM EDT
...immediately ended all welfare and other public assistance programs?

I envision heavy rioting, most inner cities burning, and thousands dead.  Property theft and muggings would skyrocket.

Maybe I'm being cynical.  Maybe most current welfare recipients would take up the challenge and find paying work.

What do you think?
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 7:47:37 AM EDT
[#1]

Quoted:
...immediately ended all welfare and other public assistance programs?

I envision heavy rioting, most inner cities burning, and thousands dead.  Property theft and muggings would skyrocket.

Maybe I'm being cynical.  Maybe most current welfare recipients would take up the challenge and find paying work.

What do you think?
France is burning...
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 7:48:46 AM EDT
[#2]

Quoted:
...immediately ended all welfare and other public assistance programs?

I envision heavy rioting, most inner cities burning, and thousands dead.  Property theft and muggings would skyrocket.


Status quo. I can live with that.
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 7:51:07 AM EDT
[#3]
Mass shootings, food riots, home invasions, basically the L.A. riots on a nation wide scale......if the lazy bums get off their ass to do it.
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 7:52:06 AM EDT
[#4]
There would be a VERY vocal group of have-nots that would start small and then grow, that would bleat on and riot... and eventually go rob the haves.

I firmly believe there is a class war coming in the next few years. It won't be a "SHTF get your bullets and body armor" war, but just remember that even though you are working your butt off for everything you have... someone will want to take it from you...

Edit: I see the precursors for this RIGHT NOW... Socialist programs are constantly being introduced, and people outright advocating taking money from the "rich" (anyone making, oh, $30k/year or more being "rich" to them) and giving it to  the poor are yapping about it left and right, at an all time high rate if you ask me. And they make it sound like ONLY the "rich" will be affected but I noticed that in the mid-90s, when Clinton was in office and I was SCRAPING every penny I had together for my house and car payments, eating non-name brand food etc. to get by, that they considered my wife and I "rich". We were (and still are) working our BUTTS off to buy sensibly and make good financial decisions and we get punished all the time for not maxing out our mortgage or living over our means...

I dread reading the editorials in the newspaper these days.
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 7:52:38 AM EDT
[#5]
Alcohol and cigarette sales would drop like a bomb
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 7:53:45 AM EDT
[#6]
I'd have to get my reloading press set up again....
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 7:54:51 AM EDT
[#7]
My tax dollars would be re-allocated to emergency and police services?


We should see a tax cut?


American industry might make a comeback?


Let's give it a whirl and see what happens, after all if it saves one American job it would be worth it right?


96Ag
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 7:55:46 AM EDT
[#8]

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I'd have to get my reloading press set up again....


Mine is always set up....
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 7:56:23 AM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
Mass shootings, food riots, home invasions, basically the L.A. riots on a nation wide scale......if the lazy bums get off their ass to do it.


Let it happen as far as I'm concerned. The Castle Doctrine is a wonderful thing. After a short time, their numbers will be reduced and the problem of who's gonna give them free food, etc, will no longer be an issue. If they're not breathing, I don't think they'll need welfare.
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 8:02:32 AM EDT
[#10]
I would be interested in the long-term implications.

Obviously short-term there would be some unrest in certain places.

If there were riots, what would happen when they were put down and "order" was restored?

Would the hue and cry be enough to get the decision reversed?
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 8:06:22 AM EDT
[#11]
Crying, whining, lots of liberals talking, few shootings, then it would quiet down and they'd get jobs and maybe stop having so many babydaddies.
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 8:08:25 AM EDT
[#12]
No more Illegals, and many other good things would happen.


Link Posted: 8/13/2007 8:12:36 AM EDT
[#13]
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 8:14:10 AM EDT
[#14]
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 8:15:22 AM EDT
[#15]
the Media would cum on themselves..

over and over and over ..


the end of the world as they know it..

ask for help from the UN ,, and ask for handouts for little timmy...  

TV Commercial: < as seen around the world >
little timmy is 19 y/o  he cant get a job cause ...   well he almost passed the new ATV game on his new xbox 360 ....   pausing it to go to work would hurt his little man feeling..  

<announcer >  Lebue .. ?   wil you MAKE  little timmy here .. whoo as you can see is just breaking 200 lbs .... have to WORK?   what about the endless hours he spent getting to level 45643624156.21 ?

for only 2 francs a day you can make sure little timmy makes it thru yet another day with out work.



<announcer>  looks into camera...  this is  all Bushes fault! ..



Link Posted: 8/13/2007 8:15:54 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/13/2007 8:16:31 AM EDT
[#17]
LA riots would look like a schoolyard fight compared to the chaos that would ensue in most dense urban areas.
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 8:16:52 AM EDT
[#18]

Quoted:
i192.photobucket.com/albums/z96/M4builder/patience.jpg


damn..    thats just wrong.  

im as sick a bastard as the next guy...    but that aint funny  ,.
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 8:29:25 AM EDT
[#19]
LA Riots all over again.  The welfare recipients would freak out burn down or otherwise destroy their own neighborhoods.

The problem for them would be that since welfare had been stopped, we wouldn't rebuild them like the other times.  They would be SOL.  

As a side note.  It is kind of funny that so many of these people are "disabled" enough to get a full ride but can still cause huge riots etc.
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 8:30:41 AM EDT
[#20]
Oh, and another thing.  Government would all of a sudden have lots of money with nothing to spend it on.
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 8:31:05 AM EDT
[#21]
I think there would be some unrest and increase in crime, not SHTF though.
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 8:32:46 AM EDT
[#22]

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Oh, and another thing.  Government would all of a sudden have lots of money with nothing to spend it on.


One thing I will guarantee you is that if the .gov made that kind of decision (not gaoing to happen) the surplus would already be earmarked and the blood would be flowing in the aisles of politicos scrambling to spend it.
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 8:34:10 AM EDT
[#23]

Quoted:
...immediately ended all welfare and other public assistance programs?

I envision heavy rioting, most inner cities burning, and thousands dead.  Property theft and muggings would skyrocket.

Maybe I'm being cynical.  Maybe most current welfare recipients would take up the challenge and find paying work.

What do you think?


fixed

It will never happen.

Simply change the system.  Change it to pure subsistance living.  No check or debit cards to buy the food you want.  You get X number of MRE's a week and Y cases of bottled water.  Children will recieve appropriate, nutritional rations based on their age.

Thats it.  FedEx and UPS can deliver on time.
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 8:35:46 AM EDT
[#24]
Not a good idea...Politically or Socially. It does not solve a damn thing. Folks who don't want to work, will never ever want to work no matter what. They tend to blame on the Gov. and start to riot.
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 8:39:49 AM EDT
[#25]

Quoted:
I think there would be some unrest and increase in crime, not SHTF though.


untill they run out of food/money and have to go out and get a job, then the crime rate would go down dramaticaly.
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 8:47:32 AM EDT
[#26]
Liberals would bitch and moan but they always bitch and moan. The welfare recipients would bitch too, but so what? They also bitch all the time anyway. There might be a riot somewhere, but there might be a riot over anything.

Then there would be an economic shift as people adapted to the new reality. The welfare class would move to where the jobs are and go to work.

And that’s about it. There wouldn’t be any major social upheavals or increases in crime. If anything, crime would decrease. Hard work and poverty don’t cause crime. Criminals and people with too much time on their hands cause crime.
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 8:54:22 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/13/2007 8:54:23 AM EDT
[#28]

Quoted:

Quoted:
i192.photobucket.com/albums/z96/M4builder/patience.jpg


damn..    thats just wrong.  

im as sick a bastard as the next guy...    but that aint funny  ,.
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 9:59:49 AM EDT
[#29]

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Liberals would bitch and moan but they always bitch and moan. The welfare recipients would bitch too, but so what? They also bitch all the time anyway. There might be a riot somewhere, but there might be a riot over anything.

Then there would be an economic shift as people adapted to the new reality. The welfare class would move to where the jobs are and go to work.

And that’s about it. There wouldn’t be any major social upheavals or increases in crime. If anything, crime would decrease. Hard work and poverty don’t cause crime. Criminals and people with too much time on their hands cause crime.


That's a pretty rosy outlook.  I like it.
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 10:03:46 AM EDT
[#30]
I welcome the opportunity to find out!!! I really really do!!!
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 11:02:44 AM EDT
[#31]
I was talking to one of my sales guys this morning about this scenario.  We came to the conclusion that we weren't sure exactly what would happen, but we know it wouldn't be good.  I wouldn't think that you would see massive riots right off the bat, but you can bet your sweet ass that crime would rise pretty quickly.  It would probably degenerate into riots in major cities before too long.

There is only one way that this would happen, though.  You would first have to remove the voting rights of people on welfare to minimize the political ramifications.  Otherwise it would be political suicide for many years to come, since the other party would just campaign on that issue alone.  You wanna get people to vote, stop sending the checks.
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 11:07:56 AM EDT
[#32]

Quoted:
...immediately ended all welfare and other public assistance programs?

I envision heavy rioting, most inner cities burning, and thousands dead.  Property theft and muggings would skyrocket.

Maybe I'm being cynical.  Maybe most current welfare recipients would take up the challenge and find paying work.

What do you think?


Crime would hit an all time high, as would shoplifiting.  On the upside within weeks unemployment would be at all time lows.
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 11:10:17 AM EDT
[#33]
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 11:17:17 AM EDT
[#34]
Riots,people screaming racism,Lots of shooting, martial law, SHTF. or even TEOTWAWKI. Arfcom shuts down from posting traffic.
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 11:29:07 AM EDT
[#35]
Quick downward spiral into tyranny.
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 11:31:05 AM EDT
[#36]

Quoted:
I dread reading the editorials in the newspaper these days.


I dread reading your posts. Way too plausible in terms of possibilities.


(that's a backhanded compliment BTW)
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 11:38:45 AM EDT
[#37]
I remember back in the 80's Michigan did just that.  They cut off welfare to anyone that was remotely able to work...I remember all the pissing and moanig about it....
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 11:41:38 AM EDT
[#38]

Quoted:

Quoted:
i192.photobucket.com/albums/z96/M4builder/patience.jpg


damn..    thats just wrong.  

im as sick a bastard as the next guy...    but that aint funny  ,.


Did he swtich the pic or something?...The one I'm seeing is pretty fucking funny.
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 11:43:19 AM EDT
[#39]
Chaos.
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 11:50:23 AM EDT
[#40]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
i192.photobucket.com/albums/z96/M4builder/patience.jpg


damn..    thats just wrong.  

im as sick a bastard as the next guy...    but that aint funny  ,.


Did he swtich the pic or something?...The one I'm seeing is pretty fucking funny.


Yes.  Click the link in your post, or this one, and you will see the original.

I was beginning to think everyone had gone soft on looty.  This one is Fucked up.
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 11:54:32 AM EDT
[#41]
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 11:59:20 AM EDT
[#42]
For some people here, they'd have to rebuild their ammo forts when it was all over.
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 12:00:38 PM EDT
[#43]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
i192.photobucket.com/albums/z96/M4builder/patience.jpg


damn..    thats just wrong.  

im as sick a bastard as the next guy...    but that aint funny  ,.


Did he swtich the pic or something?...The one I'm seeing is pretty fucking funny.


Yes.  Click the link in your post, or this one, and you will see the original.

I was beginning to think everyone had gone soft on looty.  This one is Fucked up.


Oh shit, I am still , in a really sick way.
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 12:01:39 PM EDT
[#44]
Yes, why would this happen?

Inquiring minds want to know.
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 12:06:11 PM EDT
[#45]
I figure if the welfare parasites are too lazy to get a job they would probably be too lazy to riot.  I would love the govt to stop supporting them and find out what would happen.
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 12:08:44 PM EDT
[#46]
I would drive home as fast as I could and start loading even more magazines than are already loaded.
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 12:13:20 PM EDT
[#47]

Quoted:
Chaos.


You say that like it's a bad thing.
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 12:16:38 PM EDT
[#48]
Its probably why we don't cut off aid to the rest of the world, mass chaos, people fighting for reasources ect. ect.
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 12:18:23 PM EDT
[#49]
Burn, baby burn.
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 12:21:41 PM EDT
[#50]
Most of the politicians voting for that would find themselves voted out of office through some sort of recall vote. Too many folks who are hooked on the gravy train.
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