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Posted: 8/28/2004 12:05:21 PM EST
I 've heard references to these excersizes over the years, what were they? US/Euro wargames against the hordes of commie tanks?

Dave
Link Posted: 8/28/2004 12:09:11 PM EST
They were excercises to test the ability of the US (In concert with it's allies and the German host) to bring units to Germany and quickly add them to the fight should the soviet block go for it.

That's a simplification but it gets to the meat of it.
Link Posted: 8/28/2004 12:09:51 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/28/2004 12:30:27 PM EST by EricTheHun]
Link Posted: 8/28/2004 12:14:05 PM EST
hey ETH.

i know this is a little off topic, but did you know that you can't defect to opfor during
war games?
Link Posted: 8/28/2004 12:20:50 PM EST

Originally Posted By TheOtherDave:
I 've heard references to these excersizes over the years, what were they? US/Euro wargames against the hordes of commie tanks?

Dave




What were they? 3 to 4 weeks of living in the COLD! My first REFORGER was winter of 1985. We were living in an old run down German school house and parking our aircraft out back in a farmers field. They were usually kinda fun, but always in the WINTER!!!!
Link Posted: 8/28/2004 12:24:28 PM EST
oh yeah, forgot to add, the PC game "steel beasts" has some reforger based eastern europe/kill da russkies based programs.
pretty cool.
Link Posted: 8/28/2004 12:32:10 PM EST
Link Posted: 8/28/2004 12:36:13 PM EST

Originally Posted By EricTheHun:

Originally Posted By FNGSniper:
hey ETH.

i know this is a little off topic, but did you know that you can't defect to opfor during
war games?


Well, that's how it should be, isn't it?

I mean, it's only a game.

IRL, it doesn't happen very often, anyway.

Eric The(IMean,NextToZero)Hun



Happens a lot in real war--every body would rather be an American prisoner than a dead man
Link Posted: 8/28/2004 8:35:33 PM EST
Froze my ass off in REFORGER in 85...
Link Posted: 8/28/2004 8:39:40 PM EST

Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:

Originally Posted By EricTheHun:

Originally Posted By FNGSniper:
hey ETH.

i know this is a little off topic, but did you know that you can't defect to opfor during
war games?


Well, that's how it should be, isn't it?

I mean, it's only a game.

IRL, it doesn't happen very often, anyway.

Eric The(IMean,NextToZero)Hun



Happens a lot in real war--every body would rather be an American prisoner than a dead man



TO OpFor, CJ

Eg if you're on 'Blue' you can't 'go red'

And I would hope that THAT doesn't happen much, for sure...
Link Posted: 8/28/2004 8:49:28 PM EST
Cold, that’s what they were.

Picture a canvas tent frozen solid like a thin sheet of wrinkled drywall.
Link Posted: 8/28/2004 10:28:16 PM EST
I was there for REFORGER '83.
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 3:57:09 AM EST
REFORGER 87

Link Posted: 8/29/2004 4:25:33 AM EST

Originally Posted By FNGSniper:
hey ETH.

i know this is a little off topic, but did you know that you can't defect to opfor during
war games?




Don't tell him, tell John Kerry.
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 11:04:40 AM EST
Thanks guys, and thanks for being there in the cold when it mattered.

Dave
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 11:24:28 AM EST

Originally Posted By CNS_Hit:
Froze my ass off in REFORGER in 85...



One of my best friends was part of a Reforger exercise in the 80's. Not sure of the year but it was between 85-87. He was in the 45th National Guard Division. Not sure if they had switched from infantry to air assault by that time but he did talk about being cold and wet the whole time.
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 7:15:06 PM EST

Originally Posted By Ross:
REFORGER 87




Oops, I was at that one too!
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