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Posted: 8/18/2002 4:13:36 PM EDT
[url]http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/08/16/911.hijacker.remains.ap/index.html[/url] WASHINGTON (AP) -- Among the human remains painstakingly sorted from the Pentagon and Pennsylvania crash sites of September 11 are those of nine of the hijackers. The FBI has held them for months, and no one seems to know what should be done with them. It's a politically and emotionally charged question for the government, which eventually must decide how to dispose of some of the most despised men in American history. "I think in Islam, you're supposed to be buried whole, so I would take them and scatter them all over the place," said Donn Marshall, whose wife, Shelley, died at the Pentagon. "They don't deserve any kind of religious courtesies." In New York, where the monumental task of identifying the remains of 2,823 victims believed to be dead continues, no remains have been linked to the 10 hijackers who crashed two airliners into the World Trade Center. About half the victims' families still are waiting for their loved ones to be identified, though it's likely many never will be because so much of the site was incinerated. In contrast, the remains of all 40 victims in the Pennsylvania crash and all but five of the 184 victims at the Pentagon site were identified months ago. Little attention has been paid to the terrorists' remains found mingled with those of the victims. "It's a unique situation," said Dr. Jerry Spencer, a former chief medical examiner for the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology, who worked 30 years as a Navy forensic pathologist. "The terrorists are usually not in our possession in the United States like this. The other issue is, will the families want them back?" Four sets of remains in Pennsylvania and five at the Pentagon were grouped together as the hijackers -- but not identified by name -- through a process of elimination. Families of the airplanes' passengers and crews and those who died within the Pentagon provided DNA samples, typically on toothbrushes or hairbrushes, to aid with identification. The remains that didn't match any of those samples were ruled to be the terrorists, said Chris Kelly, spokesman for the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology, which did the DNA work. The nine sets of remains matched the number of hijackers believed to be on the two planes. Without reference samples from the hijackers' personal effects or from their immediate families to compare with the recovered DNA, the remains could not be matched to an individual. With the one-year anniversary approaching, State Department officials said Friday they had received no requests for the remains. The department would be responsible for handling such a request from any government seeking the return of a citizen's body. Officials have said that all but one of the nine hijackers recovered had connections to Saudi Arabia. The other was Lebanese. Officials at the Saudi Embassy in Washington did not respond to requests for comment. In more typical cases, foreign families also could contact local authorities. But the hijackers' remains are under the control of the FBI. "To the best of my knowledge, there haven't been any friends or family members to try to claim the remains of these people," said Jeff Killeen, spokesman for the FBI field office in Pittsburgh. "They are in the custody of the FBI in Washington. They have not been released." In cases where badly damaged bodies cannot be identified, or when no one steps forward to claim a body, state or local laws usually dictate what will be done with them. "If it's a mass disaster, and they can't identify the remains, they may put all of them in a mass grave or they may be cremated," said Michael Bell, vice president of the National Association of Medical Examiners and the deputy chief examiner for Broward County, Fla. Authorities usually retain only small DNA samples, photographs or other pertinent information that might lead to identification later or become evidence in a criminal case. A group memorial service is planned for Arlington National Cemetery on Sept. 12, when all the remains from the Pentagon that could not be matched with a particular victim will be buried, said Maj. Sandy Troeber, a spokeswoman. The remains linked to terrorists were taken by the FBI in February, she said. James Starrs, a professor of forensic science and law at George Washington University, said there should be public oversight of what the government does with human remains, whether they are criminals or victims. Policies must take into account that there are cases where relatives don't seek repatriation of remains, including many examples of Americans killed on overseas battlefields, noted Starrs, who is known for his forensic work in historical cases, such as the outlaw Jesse James and the mystery of the Boston Strangler. "Good persons or bad persons, you can't assume that the relatives are going to come to the fore and try to reclaim their remains," Starr said.
Link Posted: 8/18/2002 4:17:22 PM EDT
I say the fed gives them to me. My cat LOVES imported kitty litter.
Link Posted: 8/18/2002 4:21:22 PM EDT
Give them back to the families..Show them we are not animals like they were.
Link Posted: 8/18/2002 4:47:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/18/2002 4:49:49 PM EDT by ski223]
"F*ck" 'em! Send a video tape back to the towel heads, showing the ashes getting flushed down an American Standard Toilet Bowl! Tell 'em, THIS is what the "Real" American thinks of your B*LL SH*T! "Don't hide, Bring it on!" "Let's get ready to rumble!"
Link Posted: 8/18/2002 4:54:25 PM EDT
Link Posted: 8/18/2002 4:56:38 PM EDT
Bury them in pig shit - televised live! Free feed to Al JAzera or whatever they call rag TV.
Link Posted: 8/18/2002 5:00:58 PM EDT
Piss on it and give it to the starving afghanistan ragheads to eat.
Link Posted: 8/18/2002 5:18:25 PM EDT
Originally Posted By edpmedic: Give them back to the families..Show them we are not animals like they were.
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Can we at least put them in plush pigskin lined coffins? [:D] Seriously, I'm conflicted. One part of me says their remains should be treated as any other persons. The other part of me wants to send a clear and decisive message to these animals. Remember the Alamo, and God Bless Texas...
Link Posted: 8/18/2002 5:19:03 PM EDT
You guys are close but not close enough. Ha! Ha! Feed the remains to pigs and use the digested remains as fertilizer. Or feed the remains to pigs and let the pigs wallow around in the digested remains. And broadcast the whole process. And tell them and the world that is what to become of ALL terrorist.
Link Posted: 8/18/2002 5:26:36 PM EDT
I got another idea. Yall remember "Fat Man" and "Little Boy" in Japan right? I say we make a "Big Fat Ass Osama" and secure the remains of the ragheads to the nuke. jihad my fuckin ass. Our rangers and seals will have some glow-in-the-dark targets haha.
Link Posted: 8/18/2002 5:30:51 PM EDT
Link Posted: 8/18/2002 5:35:29 PM EDT
Originally Posted By MickeyMouse: Bury them in pig shit - televised live! Free feed to Al JAzera or whatever they call rag TV.
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How about pig chow which would end up as pig shit.Use that to fertilize corn to feed pigs. Do you see where I'm going with this?
Link Posted: 8/18/2002 5:51:24 PM EDT
piss on them until you get a paste consistancy and then wrap them in bacon, fry them up and send them back to their relatives.
Link Posted: 8/18/2002 7:18:57 PM EDT
IBTL [:D]
Link Posted: 8/18/2002 8:01:16 PM EDT
Mix with the less desirable portions of swine, grind into sausage, package as MREs. When the inevitable famine hits Zimbabwe, we can appear virtuous, and airdrop them... [devil] IBTL!
Link Posted: 8/18/2002 8:16:02 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Kaesan: Mix with the less desirable portions of swine, grind into sausage, package as MREs. When the inevitable famine hits Zimbabwe, we can appear virtuous, and airdrop them... [devil] IBTL!
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This reminds me of when I was in saudi during desert storm we gave some of are pork patty mre,s to saudi kids, If I had known how they felt about us then I cant imagine the stuff we could have thought of.[}:)]
Link Posted: 8/18/2002 8:25:49 PM EDT
We need to wrap them up in pig shit then attach to a nuke headed for Mecca. When that shithole is gone, so are all the radical Muslium shitheads! No virgins, no Jihad, nothing but a smoking crater. [USA]
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