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Posted: 10/3/2005 9:24:42 PM EDT
What's this acronym
Link Posted: 10/3/2005 9:25:02 PM EDT
Jack Booted Thug
Link Posted: 10/3/2005 9:25:14 PM EDT
Jack Booted Thug
Link Posted: 10/3/2005 9:29:21 PM EDT
It's a name given to police by those who have applied but could not for whatever reason get hired as a police officer-usualy a questionable background, or out of shape and could not pass the PFT.

So they sit back on their computer, and talk all this crap about how when the "JBT's" come to take their guns, they won't be taken alive. Oh-and they wear camo and usually have big beer guts also, and critique special operations missions and argue about why Navy SEALs are so bad, and what they will do when the "SHTF."
Link Posted: 10/3/2005 9:34:15 PM EDT

Originally Posted By pieceofstink:
It's a name given to police by those who have applied but could not for whatever reason get hired as a police officer-usualy a questionable background, or out of shape and could not pass the PFT.

So they sit back on their computer, and talk all this crap about how when the "JBT's" come to take their guns, they won't be taken alive. Oh-and they wear camo and usually have big beer guts also, and critique special operations missions and argue about why Navy SEALs are so bad, and what they will do when the "SHTF."



And your point?
Link Posted: 10/3/2005 9:39:12 PM EDT
I think I stated my point rather clearly-oh-but I forgot-these same cammie-wearing lard-asses also think all cops wear Oakleys, and that all cops want to ban guns.
Link Posted: 10/3/2005 9:42:43 PM EDT
Quite well put.

Link Posted: 10/3/2005 9:44:52 PM EDT
Is this the first episode of Invasion of the Clairvoyant Barrel-Suckers, or did I miss some?
Link Posted: 10/3/2005 9:47:42 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Witch_Doctor:
Jack Booted Thug



Dang, I thought it meant the Jewish Booty Team.

Link Posted: 10/3/2005 9:49:20 PM EDT

Originally Posted By pieceofstink:
I think I stated my point rather clearly-oh-but I forgot-these same cammie-wearing lard-asses also think all cops wear Oakleys, and that all cops want to ban guns.



let me guess, your a cop?
Link Posted: 10/3/2005 9:51:19 PM EDT
You wish.
Link Posted: 10/3/2005 9:58:53 PM EDT
11 replies and no noteworthy copbashing yet? You guys are slipping.
Link Posted: 10/3/2005 10:00:10 PM EDT
This term is overused these days. It was originally intended for, properly so, a certain antigun federal agency, but has generally been expanded to include other abusive federal agencies. It referred specifically to those who would kill 12 yr old kids, beat up pregnant women, kill your dog, etc.

It does not apply to 95% of the law enforcment officers out there.
Link Posted: 10/3/2005 10:01:33 PM EDT
Read Unintended Consequences!!!!!!
Link Posted: 10/3/2005 10:11:36 PM EDT
Here in AZ it is referred to as a "Jackalope Buzzing Tazer". Especially needed when you are in Kingman and the local Jack-in-the-Box serves you a jackalope sandwich instead of a spicy chicken sandwich, therefore causing a rather unpleasant bus ride home.


For the snowbirds, a jackalope is a giant rabbit with antlers. That is all.
Link Posted: 10/3/2005 10:19:54 PM EDT

pieceofstink



Well put.
Link Posted: 10/3/2005 10:24:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/3/2005 10:25:49 PM EDT by PromptCritical]





Link Posted: 10/3/2005 11:05:15 PM EDT
Jiggly Butt Thumper
Link Posted: 10/3/2005 11:22:02 PM EDT
Dog shooters.
Link Posted: 10/3/2005 11:33:31 PM EDT

Originally Posted By pieceofstink:
It's a name given to police by those who have applied but could not for whatever reason get hired as a police officer-usualy a questionable background, or out of shape and could not pass the PFT.

So they sit back on their computer, and talk all this crap about how when the "JBT's" come to take their guns, they won't be taken alive. Oh-and they wear camo and usually have big beer guts also, and critique special operations missions and argue about why Navy SEALs are so bad, and what they will do when the "SHTF."



You are a cop, aren't you.

You think a decent argument against incorrect stereotypes is.....incorrect stereotypes?

I hope they don't ask you to do any investigations or other matters that require rational thought.
Link Posted: 10/3/2005 11:39:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/3/2005 11:44:44 PM EDT by 22bad]
JBT is a joke........an endearing term
Jack booted thug is a reference to out of control LEOs who have forgotten that
their job is to serve and protect the citizens of this country...........that pay them
Link Posted: 10/4/2005 7:50:02 AM EDT
It was a term repeated by Bush Sr. to nationally humiliate and embarrass the NRA. Harriet Miers may acquire the same connotation in the coming years......kinda like Bush Sr's Souter.
Link Posted: 10/4/2005 7:53:39 AM EDT

Originally Posted By 10mmFan:
It was a term repeated by Bush Sr. to nationally humiliate and embarrass the NRA. Harriet Miers may acquire the same connotation in the coming years......kinda like Bush Sr's Souter.



I remember it the other way around... It came about when Wayne Lapierre put the term in a letter to members. It got out and many people used it as an opportunity to bash the NRA for being extremist.

I could be recalling it incorrectly though.
Link Posted: 10/4/2005 7:57:27 AM EDT

<paris> Jackboots are hot. </paris>
Link Posted: 10/4/2005 8:04:37 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:

Originally Posted By pieceofstink:
It's a name given to police by those who have applied but could not for whatever reason get hired as a police officer-usualy a questionable background, or out of shape and could not pass the PFT.

So they sit back on their computer, and talk all this crap about how when the "JBT's" come to take their guns, they won't be taken alive. Oh-and they wear camo and usually have big beer guts also, and critique special operations missions and argue about why Navy SEALs are so bad, and what they will do when the "SHTF."



You are a cop, aren't you.

You think a decent argument against incorrect stereotypes is.....incorrect stereotypes?

I hope they don't ask you to do any investigations or other matters that require rational thought.


Probably not a cop- but wants to be someday, after he takes some night classes at the local junoir college.
Link Posted: 10/4/2005 8:07:01 AM EDT
mac - Your are right. Sr. is the one who exploited it for personal gain though. Bastard. (Bush, Sr.)
I don't fergive and I don't fergit.
Link Posted: 10/4/2005 8:16:51 AM EDT

Originally Posted By NuclearFission:
What's this acronym



Jack Booted Thug as previously posted. Illustrated, they look like this...



Link Posted: 10/4/2005 8:20:03 AM EDT

Originally Posted By pieceofstink:
I think I stated my point rather clearly-oh-but I forgot-these same cammie-wearing lard-asses also think all cops wear Oakleys, and that all cops want to ban guns.




Good stuff there man. Anyone who doesn't put his trust in all cops must indeed fit this description. Bet you think that anyone who still has a bad taste in their mouth over the events at Waco is a camo-clad nutjob also. Do you acknowledge that JBT's even exist? Probably not. What about agents at Waco? Just following orders, right? And some wonder why anyone would question the resolve of some LEO's to PROTECT AND UPHOLD the law (which includes the 2nd Ammendment of the US Constitution).

You sir... may just be a prime example of a JBT.

For the record... I'm not a fat guy, I'm not wearing camo, and I never pursued (or desired) a career in law enforcement. Fighting an ignorant stereotypes with an even more ignorant stereotype is pretty lame.
Link Posted: 10/4/2005 9:00:24 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Remman:

Originally Posted By pieceofstink:
I think I stated my point rather clearly-oh-but I forgot-these same cammie-wearing lard-asses also think all cops wear Oakleys, and that all cops want to ban guns.



let me guess, your a cop?



Yeah he seem like one of those that will defend LEO's NO MATTER how wrong they are or how ILLEGAL their actions are.

Talk about stereotyping, its asshats like him w/ big egoes that give em a bad name as shown by the below post


It's a name given to police by those who have applied but could not for whatever reason get hired as a police officer-usualy a questionable background, or out of shape and could not pass the PFT.

So they sit back on their computer, and talk all this crap about how when the "JBT's" come to take their guns, they won't be taken alive. Oh-and they wear camo and usually have big beer guts also, and critique special operations missions and argue about why Navy SEALs are so bad, and what they will do when the "SHTF."
Link Posted: 10/4/2005 9:03:20 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/4/2005 10:35:09 AM EDT by migradog]

Originally Posted By Rickyj:
Read Unintended Consequences!!!!!!



Unintended Consequences is Fiction


JBT is a term applied to 98% of the police encounters described in these forums.

Calling a decent LEO a JBT is like calling a Black a N*****

It's very offensive and not the slightest bit endearing. (Kind of like calling your wife a Ho)

Perhaps that is why guys like pieceofstink say what they do.

This board goes a long way into perpetuating the Donut Eating, Dog Killing, JBT streotypes.
Link Posted: 10/4/2005 9:11:29 AM EDT
I thought the term was popularized after the NRA ran an ad in response to the Waco debacle.

The ATF agents were termed as thugs and Bush 41 ended up citing it as an example of the NRA's supposed extremism.
Link Posted: 10/4/2005 9:56:08 AM EDT
a Jack Booted Thug is

Any cop that ever shot a dog, for any reason.

Any cop who enforces a law you disagree with.

Any cop who is prior military, is in shape and has a short haircut.

Any cop who drives too fast to a non emergency call for service.
Any cop who drive too slow to your non emergency call for service.

Any cop who arrested your brother for his drug stash.
Any cop who wont arrest those guys on your street who you are sure are dealing.

Any cop who arrested your friend for DUI.
Any cop who wont do something about those damn kids speeding on your street.
Link Posted: 10/4/2005 10:06:56 AM EDT

Originally Posted By RevDeadCorpse:
tinypic.com/actu0l.jpg

Nice pic! That sums up the BATF+E alright.
Link Posted: 10/4/2005 10:12:17 AM EDT

Originally Posted By AR15fan:
a Jack Booted Thug is

Any cop that ever shot a dog, for any reason.

Any cop who enforces a law you disagree with.

Any cop who is prior military, is in shape and has a short haircut.

Any cop who drives too fast to a non emergency call for service.
Any cop who drive too slow to your non emergency call for service.

Any cop who arrested your brother for his drug stash.
Any cop who wont arrest those guys on your street who you are sure are dealing.

Any cop who arrested your friend for DUI.
Any cop who wont do something about those damn kids speeding on your street.



+1
Link Posted: 10/4/2005 10:33:35 AM EDT

Originally Posted By AR15fan:
a Jack Booted Thug is

Any cop that ever shot a dog, for any reason.

Any cop who enforces a law you disagree with.

Any cop who is prior military, is in shape and has a short haircut.

Any cop who drives too fast to a non emergency call for service.
Any cop who drive too slow to your non emergency call for service.

Any cop who arrested your brother for his drug stash.
Any cop who wont arrest those guys on your street who you are sure are dealing.

Any cop who arrested your friend for DUI.
Any cop who wont do something about those damn kids speeding on your street.



I've always considered "Jack Booted Thug" as an ugly term used to describe a Federal Agent or Police Officer who either considers themselves above the law, or who likes the power of their authority to a point where they have no problem with abusing the civil rights of those they are here to protect.

It is true that there are some who have such an aversion to (or hatred of) authority as to label all police and agents "JBTs". The actual percentages of those people I suspect are low. Just as I believe the actual percentage of police and agents who tend to abuse their authority is low.

It appears stereotypes go both ways.
Link Posted: 10/4/2005 10:41:39 AM EDT

Originally Posted By PromptCritical:

www.atfabuse.com/rapeofliberty2.jpg



That lady with the scales is a bit too hot the purposes of that illustration. It's eliciting the wrong emotion from me.
Link Posted: 10/4/2005 11:04:47 AM EDT

Originally Posted By AR15fan:
a Jack Booted Thug is

Any cop that ever shot a dog, for any reason.

Any cop who enforces a law you disagree with.

Any cop who is prior military, is in shape and has a short haircut.

Any cop who drives too fast to a non emergency call for service.
Any cop who drive too slow to your non emergency call for service.

Any cop who arrested your brother for his drug stash.
Any cop who wont arrest those guys on your street who you are sure are dealing.

Any cop who arrested your friend for DUI.
Any cop who wont do something about those damn kids speeding on your street.



You sound overly defensive...I wonder why?
Link Posted: 10/4/2005 11:07:58 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Silesius:
I thought the term was popularized after the NRA ran an ad in response to the Waco debacle.

The ATF agents were termed as thugs and Bush 41 ended up citing it as an example of the NRA's supposed extremism.



Waco was brought to you by Klinton42...
Link Posted: 10/4/2005 12:45:41 PM EDT

Originally Posted By AR15fan:
a Jack Booted Thug is

Any cop that ever shot a dog, for any reason.

Any cop who enforces a law you disagree with.

Any cop who is prior military, is in shape and has a short haircut.

Any cop who drives too fast to a non emergency call for service.
Any cop who drive too slow to your non emergency call for service.

Any cop who arrested your brother for his drug stash.
Any cop who wont arrest those guys on your street who you are sure are dealing.

Any cop who arrested your friend for DUI.
Any cop who wont do something about those damn kids speeding on your street.





+1 and well said.
Link Posted: 10/4/2005 12:47:11 PM EDT

Originally Posted By squeezecockerp7m8:

Originally Posted By AR15fan:
a Jack Booted Thug is

Any cop that ever shot a dog, for any reason.

Any cop who enforces a law you disagree with.

Any cop who is prior military, is in shape and has a short haircut.

Any cop who drives too fast to a non emergency call for service.
Any cop who drive too slow to your non emergency call for service.

Any cop who arrested your brother for his drug stash.
Any cop who wont arrest those guys on your street who you are sure are dealing.

Any cop who arrested your friend for DUI.
Any cop who wont do something about those damn kids speeding on your street.



You sound overly defensive...I wonder why?



How does this sound defensive? It's clear, concise and to the point.
Link Posted: 10/4/2005 12:53:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/4/2005 1:08:22 PM EDT by npd233]

Originally Posted By Red_Label:

Originally Posted By pieceofstink:
I think I stated my point rather clearly-oh-but I forgot-these same cammie-wearing lard-asses also think all cops wear Oakleys, and that all cops want to ban guns.




Good stuff there man. Anyone who doesn't put his trust in all cops must indeed fit this description. Bet you think that anyone who still has a bad taste in their mouth over the events at Waco is a camo-clad nutjob also. Do you acknowledge that JBT's even exist? Probably not. What about agents at Waco? Just following orders, right? And some wonder why anyone would question the resolve of some LEO's to PROTECT AND UPHOLD the law (which includes the 2nd Ammendment of the US Constitution).

You sir... may just be a prime example of a JBT.

For the record... I'm not a fat guy, I'm not wearing camo, and I never pursued (or desired) a career in law enforcement. Fighting an ignorant stereotypes with an even more ignorant stereotype is pretty lame.



Well, at least you know what it feels like to be on the wrong end of a stereotype, now.


BTW, this thread's a DUPE

www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=392704

so, IBTL
Link Posted: 10/4/2005 1:00:33 PM EDT
I'd get in on this, but my Oakleys are obscuring the button under mah belly to pulls mah cammies down an' moon yo' my ass, Mr. JBT Piece of Stink...
Link Posted: 10/4/2005 1:02:32 PM EDT
Link Posted: 10/4/2005 2:47:09 PM EDT

Originally Posted By migradog:

Originally Posted By squeezecockerp7m8:

Originally Posted By AR15fan:
a Jack Booted Thug is

Any cop that ever shot a dog, for any reason.

Any cop who enforces a law you disagree with.

Any cop who is prior military, is in shape and has a short haircut.

Any cop who drives too fast to a non emergency call for service.
Any cop who drive too slow to your non emergency call for service.

Any cop who arrested your brother for his drug stash.
Any cop who wont arrest those guys on your street who you are sure are dealing.

Any cop who arrested your friend for DUI.
Any cop who wont do something about those damn kids speeding on your street.



You sound overly defensive...I wonder why?



How does this sound defensive? It's clear, concise and to the point.



It's more stereotyping, and its no more correct than the stereotyping about cops is.
Clear concise and to the point doesnt matter if its incorrect. JBT is clear, concise and to the point, but misused 98% of the time it comes out of someones mouth.

You can't use fallacies to attack fallacies and then claim the moral high ground anymore than the cop haters can.
Link Posted: 10/4/2005 2:48:56 PM EDT
Link Posted: 10/4/2005 2:56:54 PM EDT

Originally Posted By NightWatchman:

Originally Posted By PromptCritical:

www.atfabuse.com/rapeofliberty2.jpg



That lady with the scales is a bit too hot the purposes of that illustration. It's eliciting the wrong emotion from me.



Lady liberty is a fat ass AFT agent that is peeking thru the blind fold to she if he knows anyone in the court.
Link Posted: 10/4/2005 3:01:15 PM EDT

Originally Posted By A_Free_Man:
This term is overused these days. It was originally intended for, properly so, a certain antigun federal agency, but has generally been expanded to include other abusive federal agencies. It referred specifically to those who would kill 12 yr old kids, beat up pregnant women, kill your dog, etc.

It does not apply to 95% of the law enforcment officers out there.



I guess that other 5% was in New Orleans last month. JBT originally referred to the stone-cold killers who work for the ATF, but I use the term to refer to any law enforcement officer who would enfore an unconstitutional law. While the ATF still takes the cake for most blatant disregard for our rights, the disease seems to be spreading quickly.
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 2:58:01 AM EDT

Originally Posted By squeezecockerp7m8:

Originally Posted By AR15fan:
a Jack Booted Thug is

Any cop that ever shot a dog, for any reason.

Any cop who enforces a law you disagree with.

Any cop who is prior military, is in shape and has a short haircut.

Any cop who drives too fast to a non emergency call for service.
Any cop who drive too slow to your non emergency call for service.

Any cop who arrested your brother for his drug stash.
Any cop who wont arrest those guys on your street who you are sure are dealing.

Any cop who arrested your friend for DUI.
Any cop who wont do something about those damn kids speeding on your street.



You sound overly defensive...I wonder why?


He's not defensive, he's right on the money.
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 3:06:42 AM EDT

Originally Posted By NuclearFission:
What the hell is JBT mean



What the hell does JBT mean ?
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 3:29:13 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/5/2005 3:36:13 AM EDT by fight4yourrights]
Congressman John Dingell, as the liberal chairman of the House Energy and Commerce Committee, who
called the BATF "... [a] jack-booted group of fascists who are perhaps as large a danger to American society as I could pick today." in reference to the BATF's actions during the Waco tragedy.

Link Posted: 10/5/2005 3:33:27 AM EDT
in VA, if a JBT catches you with a radar detector, they grab the detector and stomp it to pieces with their jack boots.
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