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Posted: 8/24/2005 12:34:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/24/2005 12:35:12 PM EDT by lippo]

Locked my legitiment question...then...



This user is not accepting site Instant Messages.


This is BULLSHIT!
Link Posted: 8/24/2005 12:35:42 PM EDT
IBTL
Link Posted: 8/24/2005 12:36:28 PM EDT
Could there be a problem with the IM system? I think someone tried to reach anotehr mod yesterday and got a similar message, even though the mod said he was accepting IMs?
Link Posted: 8/24/2005 12:36:29 PM EDT

Originally Posted By dport:
IBTL



Yeah, you'd love that huh?

Is this place getting worse than DU?
Link Posted: 8/24/2005 12:36:50 PM EDT
Link Posted: 8/24/2005 12:37:25 PM EDT

Originally Posted By lippo:
Is this place getting worse than DU?




Are you serious? - this place could get a 100 x more "repressive" and still be much more supportive of free expression than DU.

Just my opinion.
Link Posted: 8/24/2005 12:37:50 PM EDT

Originally Posted By lippo:

Originally Posted By dport:
IBTL



Yeah, you'd love that huh?

Is this place getting worse than DU?


You're getting paranoid. What makes you think I would want it? I just know where this is heading. BTDT.
Link Posted: 8/24/2005 12:38:03 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 4xys2xxs:



They locked my thread because I want to know why the police in Virginia and the ATF haven't been held to account for their harassment. That's why.
Link Posted: 8/24/2005 12:38:18 PM EDT
Try pulling back on your LEO bashing and you might not get so many threads locked.
Link Posted: 8/24/2005 12:38:37 PM EDT

Originally Posted By dport:
IBTL



+1
Link Posted: 8/24/2005 12:38:40 PM EDT
Link Posted: 8/24/2005 12:38:47 PM EDT
Link Posted: 8/24/2005 12:39:33 PM EDT
1 vote for a poll...
Link Posted: 8/24/2005 12:39:36 PM EDT

Originally Posted By lippo:

Originally Posted By 4xys2xxs:



They locked my thread because I want to know why the police in Virginia and the ATF haven't been held to account for their harassment. That's why.


I know this is hard, but think this through. It has only been what? A week and a half? It takes that long or longer just for a thorough investigation by a private attorney.

You can't expect results instantly. Grow up.
Link Posted: 8/24/2005 12:39:38 PM EDT

Originally Posted By dport:

Originally Posted By lippo:

Originally Posted By dport:
IBTL



Yeah, you'd love that huh?

Is this place getting worse than DU?


You're getting paranoid. What makes you think I would want it? I just know where this is heading. BTDT.




Beacause of the way you act. That's why I know you'd love that. Anything about cops or holding certain groups of people responsible for their actions, you go crazy.
Link Posted: 8/24/2005 12:40:28 PM EDT
Link Posted: 8/24/2005 12:40:55 PM EDT

Originally Posted By lippo:

Originally Posted By 4xys2xxs:



They locked my thread because I want to know why the police in Virginia and the ATF haven't been held to account for their harassment. That's why.



No, you started asking that, the responded to your thread and pushed it beyond asking something.

Something about cops being dickheads, and how they're abusive and force the people to not trust them, spineless.. you know.. completely fine generalizations and stuff like that.
Link Posted: 8/24/2005 12:41:12 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DK-Prof:

Originally Posted By lippo:
Is this place getting worse than DU?



Are you serious? - this place could get a 100 x more "repressive" and still be much more supportive of free expression than DU.


Say... has anyone seen the "Alert the mod" button?
Link Posted: 8/24/2005 12:41:29 PM EDT
You're a
Link Posted: 8/24/2005 12:41:34 PM EDT
Link Posted: 8/24/2005 12:41:38 PM EDT

Originally Posted By lippo:

Originally Posted By dport:

Originally Posted By lippo:

Originally Posted By dport:
IBTL



Yeah, you'd love that huh?

Is this place getting worse than DU?


You're getting paranoid. What makes you think I would want it? I just know where this is heading. BTDT.




Beacause of the way you act. That's why I know you'd love that. Anything about cops or holding certain groups of people responsible for their actions, you go crazy.


You obviously don't know me. Check out the thread about Scotland Yard. Hell check just about any cop thread and read my posts.

I do however, think you're a knee-jerk reactionary type of person. Chill a little and you'll live longer. As it goes, you're in route to a heart attack.
Link Posted: 8/24/2005 12:42:00 PM EDT

Originally Posted By dport:

Originally Posted By lippo:

Originally Posted By 4xys2xxs:



They locked my thread because I want to know why the police in Virginia and the ATF haven't been held to account for their harassment. That's why.


I know this is hard, but think this through. It has only been what? A week and a half? It takes that long or longer just for a thorough investigation by a private attorney.

You can't expect results instantly. Grow up.



Yeah, right. You break a law and your job suspends you immediately, and then you sit while they investigate.

Cops do it and they get a pass. If they are high enough on the food chain.

What happened is just wrong and nothing will happen. Just like Waco, they'll cover their own and tell us to screw off.
Link Posted: 8/24/2005 12:42:36 PM EDT

Originally Posted By lippo:

Originally Posted By dport:
IBTL



Yeah, you'd love that huh?

Is this place getting worse than DU?



I never been on DU so I would not know.

This place is getting more PC but look how many more a-holes post here now.

The mods have to be more strict.
Link Posted: 8/24/2005 12:43:00 PM EDT
Oh the drama...
Link Posted: 8/24/2005 12:43:16 PM EDT

Originally Posted By leelaw:
Try pulling back on your LEO bashing and you might not get so many threads locked.



Since this is a site focused on firearms which are a second amendment matter this is more of a freedom lovers/patriots site than a tyrants site. Pointing out inappropriate LEO conduct should fly here.
Link Posted: 8/24/2005 12:43:41 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Da_Bunny:
You're a





Yeah right. And you're dickhead!
Link Posted: 8/24/2005 12:44:47 PM EDT
Link Posted: 8/24/2005 12:45:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/24/2005 12:48:40 PM EDT by Da_Bunny]
Mr. Dickhead to you, ya bum.........

The people here are here as individuals. I doubt many LEOs who post here do it with the blessing of their elected or appointed superiors. LEO or not, they are no more responsible for what happened than anyone else here.
Link Posted: 8/24/2005 12:45:32 PM EDT

Originally Posted By lippo:

Originally Posted By Da_Bunny:
You're a





Yeah right. Look at me, I break the CoC!



IBTL

You're pushing it today.. Something in the water? Too much coffee? Some LEO ruin your day by asking for the time? Watching COPS a little too much?
Link Posted: 8/24/2005 12:45:39 PM EDT
Lippo, I miss your old avatar.
Link Posted: 8/24/2005 12:45:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/24/2005 12:47:17 PM EDT by John_Wayne777]

Originally Posted By lippo:

Originally Posted By 4xys2xxs:



They locked my thread because I want to know why the police in Virginia and the ATF haven't been held to account for their harassment. That's why.



Whoops! Nevermind.

Wrong thread.
Link Posted: 8/24/2005 12:46:34 PM EDT

Originally Posted By IAMLEGEND:

Originally Posted By leelaw:
Try pulling back on your LEO bashing and you might not get so many threads locked.



Since this is a site focused on firearms which are a second amendment matter this is more of a freedom lovers/patriots site than a tyrants site. Pointing out inappropriate LEO conduct should fly here.



+1 That's what I was getting at.


Oh the drama...


That's the only way you get certain groups to actually come into a discussion around here. Hold them to account and they don't want to talk. Throw a line out there and at least you might get some reaction, which might get some real discussion out of it.

That's why the drama sometimes. Otherwise, it's crickets. When there should be some real talk about it.
Link Posted: 8/24/2005 12:46:53 PM EDT
Hey look! Animations!















































































Link Posted: 8/24/2005 12:47:01 PM EDT

Originally Posted By John_Wayne777:

Originally Posted By lippo:

Originally Posted By 4xys2xxs:



They locked my thread because I want to know why the police in Virginia and the ATF haven't been held to account for their harassment. That's why.



No, they locked it for the personal attacks that began when Javaman showed up.




Wasn't lippo's thread a different one? I thought it was a new thread that got locked very quickly?
Link Posted: 8/24/2005 12:48:10 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DK-Prof:
Wasn't lippo's thread a different one? I thought it was a new thread that got locked very quickly?



You are right. Senor Frog was the one who started the locked thread I am thinking of.

My bad. I saw the ATF mentioned and jumped to a conclusion.
Link Posted: 8/24/2005 12:48:28 PM EDT

Originally Posted By lippo:

Originally Posted By IAMLEGEND:

Originally Posted By leelaw:
Try pulling back on your LEO bashing and you might not get so many threads locked.



Since this is a site focused on firearms which are a second amendment matter this is more of a freedom lovers/patriots site than a tyrants site. Pointing out inappropriate LEO conduct should fly here.



+1 That's what I was getting at.


Oh the drama...


That's the only way you get certain groups to actually come into a discussion around here. Hold them to account and they don't want to talk. Throw a line out there and at least you might get some reaction, which might get some real discussion out of it.

That's why the drama sometimes. Otherwise, it's crickets. When there should be some real talk about it.



Talk to the pencil pushers and the guys in charge if a crappy decision had been made. Stop shitting on the average LEO just because an internet forum makes you think your dick is bigger than it is.

- BG
Link Posted: 8/24/2005 12:48:45 PM EDT

Originally Posted By IAMLEGEND:

Originally Posted By leelaw:
Try pulling back on your LEO bashing and you might not get so many threads locked.



Since this is a site focused on firearms which are a second amendment matter this is more of a freedom lovers/patriots site than a tyrants site. Pointing out inappropriate LEO conduct should fly here.



www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=382522

You tell me where in the thread he was being "questioning" and not generalizing and insulting.

This was not a "I noticed something questionable, what's going on here?" thread, it's "LEOS ARE DICKHEADS!" thread. Not constructive.
Link Posted: 8/24/2005 12:49:09 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DK-Prof:

Originally Posted By John_Wayne777:

Originally Posted By lippo:

Originally Posted By 4xys2xxs:



They locked my thread because I want to know why the police in Virginia and the ATF haven't been held to account for their harassment. That's why.



No, they locked it for the personal attacks that began when Javaman showed up.




Wasn't lippo's thread a different one? I thought it was a new thread that got locked very quickly?



Lippo started an LEO-bashing thread that was locked VERY quickly. I was mid-response when it went down.

- BG
Link Posted: 8/24/2005 12:50:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/24/2005 12:51:35 PM EDT by 4xys2xxs]


Well?


Dickhead cops!


Swat magazine was right, you guys keep digging a deeper hole and give more American's the reason to not trust you or out right hate you.

If you LEO's had any backbone, you'd start a shit storm and get these asshats fired!



I wonder why it was locked

Link Posted: 8/24/2005 12:51:08 PM EDT
Link Posted: 8/24/2005 12:51:35 PM EDT

Originally Posted By BUCC_Guy:

Originally Posted By lippo:

Originally Posted By IAMLEGEND:

Originally Posted By leelaw:
Try pulling back on your LEO bashing and you might not get so many threads locked.



Since this is a site focused on firearms which are a second amendment matter this is more of a freedom lovers/patriots site than a tyrants site. Pointing out inappropriate LEO conduct should fly here.



+1 That's what I was getting at.


Oh the drama...


That's the only way you get certain groups to actually come into a discussion around here. Hold them to account and they don't want to talk. Throw a line out there and at least you might get some reaction, which might get some real discussion out of it.

That's why the drama sometimes. Otherwise, it's crickets. When there should be some real talk about it.



Talk to the pencil pushers and the guys in charge if a crappy decision had been made. Stop shitting on the average LEO just because an internet forum makes you think your dick is bigger than it is.

- BG



So there weren't any cops on the scene? That's what you are saying? They don't have any responsibility for their actions? And they just have to obey their superiors and they get a free pass card? Is that what you are saying?
Link Posted: 8/24/2005 12:52:38 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 4xys2xxs:


Well?


Dickhead cops!


Swat magazine was right, you guys keep digging a deeper hole and give more American's the reason to not trust you or out right hate you.

If you LEO's had any backbone, you'd start a shit storm and get these asshats fired!



I wonder why it was locked




It's a mystery to me too..
Link Posted: 8/24/2005 12:52:41 PM EDT
could be worse.......

you could have a username that looks like a Illegal Mexican Sirname.

Ask around.

oh and IBTL
my participation in non confrontational threads have also lead to locks
so my apologies in advance should this one take a crap
Link Posted: 8/24/2005 12:53:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/24/2005 12:55:50 PM EDT by IAMLEGEND]

Originally Posted By leelaw:

Originally Posted By IAMLEGEND:

Originally Posted By leelaw:
Try pulling back on your LEO bashing and you might not get so many threads locked.



Since this is a site focused on firearms which are a second amendment matter this is more of a freedom lovers/patriots site than a tyrants site. Pointing out inappropriate LEO conduct should fly here.



www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=382522

You tell me where in the thread he was being "questioning" and not generalizing and insulting.

This was not a "I noticed something questionable, what's going on here?" thread, it's "LEOS ARE DICKHEADS!" thread. Not constructive.



All I will say is that if you are part of the LEO community I think you should start policing your fellow LEOs and campaigning for reform from within because there is a serious us/them barrier being created.
Not between LEOs and criminals but between LEOs and honest, innocent, law abiding, freedom loving members of society that have way too many reasons to distrust you (you plural meaning LEOs not you personally).
But you probably won't take that seriously because I'm not a cop.


Edited to add a comma I missed. Better than missing a period!
Link Posted: 8/24/2005 12:53:59 PM EDT
Can we get a Daycare forum for the kids who get out of drama class early and don't have anything to do until their parents get home?
Link Posted: 8/24/2005 12:54:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/24/2005 12:57:12 PM EDT by BUCC_Guy]

Originally Posted By lippo:

Originally Posted By BUCC_Guy:

Originally Posted By lippo:

Originally Posted By IAMLEGEND:

Originally Posted By leelaw:
Try pulling back on your LEO bashing and you might not get so many threads locked.



Since this is a site focused on firearms which are a second amendment matter this is more of a freedom lovers/patriots site than a tyrants site. Pointing out inappropriate LEO conduct should fly here.



+1 That's what I was getting at.


Oh the drama...


That's the only way you get certain groups to actually come into a discussion around here. Hold them to account and they don't want to talk. Throw a line out there and at least you might get some reaction, which might get some real discussion out of it.

That's why the drama sometimes. Otherwise, it's crickets. When there should be some real talk about it.



Talk to the pencil pushers and the guys in charge if a crappy decision had been made. Stop shitting on the average LEO just because an internet forum makes you think your dick is bigger than it is.

- BG



So there weren't any cops on the scene? That's what you are saying? They don't have any responsibility for their actions? And they just have to obey their superiors and they get a free pass card? Is that what you are saying?



Get off your high horse. They can't just stand up and walk off the job because of a bad order.

What the hell do you do for a living? Get shot at much? Pull some dead kids out of car wrecks? Get spit on by tweekers?

- BG

EDIT: I'd love to stay and argue since school just got out but I have to be somewhere.
Link Posted: 8/24/2005 12:54:32 PM EDT
Link Posted: 8/24/2005 12:54:44 PM EDT

Originally Posted By VA-gunnut:
I locked the thread for the second post that you made in it.

You claim to be asking the LEO members here a question.


When none of them answered you, you felt it necessary to post

"Well?


Dickhead cops! "


In my book that is a personal attack on the LEO members here.



It read like it was directed at the cops engaged in the harassing.
Link Posted: 8/24/2005 12:54:44 PM EDT
IBTL
Link Posted: 8/24/2005 12:54:58 PM EDT

Originally Posted By VA-gunnut:
I locked the thread for the second post that you made in it.

You claim to be asking the LEO members here a question.


When none of them answered you, you felt it necessary to post

"Well?


Dickhead cops! "


In my book that is a personal attack on the LEO members here.





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I DID NOT violate the CoC.

You owe me an apology.

And you need to calm down. Read the CoC again
Link Posted: 8/24/2005 12:56:07 PM EDT

Originally Posted By lippo:
you need to calm down



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