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Posted: 6/22/2016 11:12:42 AM EDT
I'm busy arguing the derp with gun control freaks, and need some clarification.

Anyone have a list or a link to one that shows what states do not require a background check for a private party transfer?

Thanks!
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 11:13:53 AM EDT
What states do not infringe on the Second Amendment would be a better question. Allow. Dude you have lived in California too long.
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Link Posted: 6/22/2016 11:14:55 AM EDT
everyone except California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, New York, Oregon, Rhode Island, Washington State and D.C
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PA is long guns only.

No check required for immediate family.
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Originally Posted By lostnswv:
What states do not infringe on the Second Amendment would be a better question. Allow. Dude you have lived in California too long.
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You have a point. But that wasn't the question.
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Originally Posted By Enlightenme556:
everyone except California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, New York, Oregon, Rhode Island, Washington State and D.C
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You forgot IL, its not exactly a BG check but I believe they still keep the info. Some have said that its just to check if a foid is valid since people have ran their foid thru it a bunch of times to see if it triggers something but you have to wonder why they would issue a transaction number which means they have to keep some type of record.
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 11:23:11 AM EDT
My State. Arizona!
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Thanks - that helped
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 11:31:01 AM EDT
Thie liberal looney bin where I live still allows FTF sales with no check.
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 11:31:51 AM EDT
I don't think OP knows what private means.

Oh and only take cash
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 11:33:45 AM EDT
Cash and carry rifles and handguns in TX.
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Originally Posted By lostnswv:
What states do not infringe on the Second Amendment would be a better question. Allow. Dude you have lived in California too long.
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FPNI
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 11:38:28 AM EDT
I've heard, that in Oregon, people are pretty much doing it anyway.
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 12:31:02 PM EDT
Maine. One of the safest states in the country.
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Louisiana
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 12:35:05 PM EDT
Pennsylvania does for anything that is not a "firearm".

A "firearm" is defined as: "Any pistol or revolver with a barrel length less than 15 inches, any shotgun with a barrel length less than 18 inches or any rifle with a barrel length less than 16 inches, or any pistol, revolver, rifle or shotgun with an overall length of less than 26 inches. The barrel length of a firearm shall be determined by measuring from the muzzle of the barrel to the face of the closed action, bolt or cylinder, whichever is applicable."
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Originally Posted By chase45:
I don't think OP knows what private means.

Oh and only take cash
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Calm down, bra'...I didn't make the state laws, I'm just asking who's got them. And yeah, cash on the barrel head.
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 12:43:08 PM EDT
Indiana checking in. No bg check for ftf sales, no mag bans, nfa friendly, lifetime carry permit and can carry a firearm in your car on school property.
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 12:43:48 PM EDT
Florida, with a few caveats.
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 2:01:17 PM EDT
mass allows 4 ftf a year but it has to be registered (the transfer not the gun lol ) via E-fa10 and both parties have to be permit holders. we do get nic'ed to get the permits. (FID or LTC for pistol or high cap)
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 2:04:50 PM EDT
TN, FTMFW
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We do what we want in Missouri.
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 2:05:44 PM EDT
I had no idea how bad every other state sucked as far as guns go
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Originally Posted By DmacRTCo:
We do what we want in Missouri.
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Originally Posted By Wildweasel:
mass allows 4 ftf a year but it has to be registered (the transfer not the gun lol ) via E-fa10 and both parties have to be permit holders. we do get nic'ed to get the permits. (FID or LTC for pistol or high cap)
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Yeah we already knew Ma. sucked for gun rights.
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 2:10:38 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By DmacRTCo:
We do what we want in Missouri.
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Really? I thought you needed a permit to buy a handgun?
Never mind didn't you in the past?
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 2:15:09 PM EDT
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BTW, a person holding a valid FFL is not a "private party", if that firearm is on their books. It is worth noting.
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Originally Posted By Hollywood_Shooter:
You have a point. But that wasn't the question.
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Originally Posted By Hollywood_Shooter:
Originally Posted By lostnswv:
What states do not infringe on the Second Amendment would be a better question. Allow. Dude you have lived in California too long.
You have a point. But that wasn't the question.


Make it the question. Using language that is not defeatist or represents servantude is important in these arguments.
Be careful how you choose your words.
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Originally Posted By 69hpbt:

Really? I thought you needed a permit to buy a handgun?
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Originally Posted By 69hpbt:
Originally Posted By DmacRTCo:
We do what we want in Missouri.

Really? I thought you needed a permit to buy a handgun?

I think at one time STL had a city ordinance or some shit that required it.
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 2:17:02 PM EDT
Oklahoma
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I think at one time STL had a city ordinance or some shit that required it.
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Originally Posted By 69hpbt:
Originally Posted By DmacRTCo:
We do what we want in Missouri.

Really? I thought you needed a permit to buy a handgun?

I think at one time STL had a city ordinance or some shit that required it.

Sound right, maybe county, I have family there and vaguely remember when a cousin got his permit, I was like what "permit"
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 2:23:28 PM EDT
Tennessee
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That site seems weird. They also apparently are unaware that Louisiana is a state.
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 2:37:35 PM EDT
Ohio
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The second amendment says no state requires any form of check. It mentions that specifically in the "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED" section.
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Originally Posted By Hollywood_Shooter:
I'm busy arguing the derp with gun control freaks, and need some clarification.

Anyone have a list or a link to one that shows what states do not require a background check for a private party transfer?

Thanks!



The second amendment says no state requires any form of check. It mentions that specifically in the "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED" section.

Link Posted: 6/22/2016 2:41:41 PM EDT
The free state of Georgia.

Link Posted: 6/22/2016 2:43:36 PM EDT
Illinois technically does not require a BG check. You just have to go online to make sure their foid card is valid. But to get a foid card their background check you, so BG checks on guns in IL are redundant.
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 2:46:00 PM EDT
Michigan allows private party sales of long guns, nothing is required.

The buyer does have to go get a pistol purchase permit for a handgun.
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 2:56:49 PM EDT
Florida does. But personally, I only sell FTF to people who possess a CWL, and I write up a bill of sale.
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 2:58:09 PM EDT
the vast majority
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 2:58:19 PM EDT
WA gained "universal background checks" back in 2013 with a retarded initiative that all the democrats voted for. (it would never have made it through normal legislative channels) It was challenged in court and the case was thrown out because nobody has standing: because they've NEVER prosecuted anyone over it. Even when people do a transfer right in front of the police, and say that is what they're doing. Then they claim it is a 1st amendment political statement and thus won't prosecute! WTF. This topic makes me so mad. On the upside we have gotten silencers and SBRs legal again in recent years. MGs and SBSs aren't likely though.

So we have them, but it isn't enforced (without a sting operation it is impossible to enforce as there are no records about who owns what firearm when). Immediate family is exempted, and I don't know the legal framework around family definitions. Aren't we all brothers and sisters of humanity? F-em, I never sell anything anyway. FFLs all charge a transfer fee to perform the service, $25-50, up to them what they charge.
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 3:01:49 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Enlightenme556:
everyone except California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, New York, Oregon, Rhode Island, Washington State and D.C
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Add Hawaii to the list Rules changed since mid 80s. AWB
Link Posted: 6/22/2016 3:01:57 PM EDT
Virginia allows private party transfers without the Commonwealth's interference.
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Link Posted: 6/22/2016 3:03:30 PM EDT
North Dakota
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No restrictions here on private party transactions of long guns or hand guns.
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