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Posted: 3/19/2013 6:14:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/19/2013 6:42:08 PM EDT by AlvinYork]
Why must states send a dollar to DC to have it filtered through the bureaucracy in order to get back a fraction of what they send? The Feds have no business in education. Education should be a community endeavor.
Link Posted: 3/19/2013 6:19:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/19/2013 6:19:34 PM EDT by scrybe]

Standardized indoctrination.
Link Posted: 3/19/2013 6:22:15 PM EDT
Originally Posted By scrybe:

Standardized indoctrination.


This.
Link Posted: 3/19/2013 6:25:25 PM EDT

Agreed.

"Let's make it so that every public school from Alaska to Florida is doing everything exactly the same way, making every effort to squelch innovation and individuality from our schools as well as our students".

Link Posted: 3/19/2013 6:29:11 PM EDT
To launder money to the Democrat party.
Link Posted: 3/19/2013 6:31:53 PM EDT
Originally Posted By hotbiggun42:
To launder money to the Democrat party.




and unions.

Link Posted: 3/19/2013 6:32:13 PM EDT
"How exactly does a posi-trac rear-end on a Plymouth work?"
Link Posted: 3/19/2013 6:33:55 PM EDT
Originally Posted By scrybe:

Standardized indoctrination.


FIRST POST
Link Posted: 3/19/2013 6:35:15 PM EDT
Originally Posted By AlvinYork:
Why must states send a dollar to DC to have it filtered through the bureaucracy in order to get back a fraction of what they send? The Feds have no business in education. Education should be a community endeavor.



Power.
Correct.
Correct.


Link Posted: 3/19/2013 6:35:30 PM EDT
To keep folks from ending thread titles in prepositions...

Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile
Link Posted: 3/19/2013 6:36:03 PM EDT
"When an opponent declares,
'I will not come over to your side.'
I calmly say, 'Your child belongs to us already…
What are you? You will pass on.
Your descendants, however,
now stand in the new camp.
In a short time they will know nothing
else but this new community.'"




Yes, I went straight-up Godwin's law.

Deal with it.

Or, to put it another way, "It takes a village."
Link Posted: 3/19/2013 6:36:12 PM EDT
Because Jimmy Carter needed a job for one of his friends/cronies/supporters.
Link Posted: 3/19/2013 6:36:53 PM EDT
For educational purposes, duh
Link Posted: 3/19/2013 6:37:10 PM EDT
To give fools jobs.
Link Posted: 3/19/2013 6:37:11 PM EDT
FPNI.

One agency we could abolish tomorrow, and not miss.
Link Posted: 3/19/2013 6:38:43 PM EDT
Originally Posted By MedPig:
FPNI.

One agency we could abolish tomorrow, and not miss.


Agreed.
Link Posted: 3/19/2013 6:39:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/19/2013 6:39:09 PM EDT by markfall]
So we remember to end questions with one of these.

?


Link Posted: 3/19/2013 6:39:15 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Johnny_Reno:
Originally Posted By AlvinYork:
Why must states send a dollar to DC to have it filtered through the bureaucracy in order to get back a fraction of what they send? The Feds have no business in education. Education should be a community endeavor.



Power.
Correct.
Correct.




You nailed it, dog.

Link Posted: 3/19/2013 6:39:30 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/19/2013 6:40:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/19/2013 7:29:12 PM EDT by 14TheKid]

Originally Posted By KBaker:
Originally Posted By scrybe:

Standardized indoctrination.


This.

Wait until you start hearing about Common Core.

It's a complete and total takeover of state control over education and puts nearly 100% control in the hands of the Federal Government.

It's really creepy stuff, and it's currently underway.


It even has requirements that children undergo an annual 400+ question data point collection test, and IIRC require the children to wear biometric data collection bracelets.

Bill Ayers, The Tides Foundation, and Rupert Murdoch, yes Rupert Murdoch, are just a few of the supporters of this program.

http://www.video.theblaze.com/media/video.jsp?content_id=25731675 I know it's the blaze, but it's worth watching.
Link Posted: 3/19/2013 6:41:55 PM EDT
Originally Posted By scrybe:

Standardized indoctrination.


this again
Link Posted: 3/19/2013 6:42:08 PM EDT
........or HUD, or EPA, or ATF or...............
Link Posted: 3/19/2013 6:44:35 PM EDT
Gov't run youth propaganda camps are essential to the Leviathan State we "enjoy" today. We must indoctrinate our youth to never question big brother for the success of all citizens and the destruction of the arrogant burgoise.

See Poland, that's where public education came from. No matter how much money you throw at it, it will only get worse. I support the complete disbanding of the Dept of Propaganda and the elimination of ALL public schooling.
Link Posted: 3/19/2013 6:46:35 PM EDT
Originally Posted By 14TheKid:

Originally Posted By KBaker:
Originally Posted By scrybe:

Standardized indoctrination.


This.

Wait until you start hearing about Common Core.

It's a complete and total takeover of state control over education and puts nearly 100% control in the hands of the Federal Government.

It's really creepy stuff, and it's currently underway.


It even has requirements that children undergo an annual 400+ question data point collection test, and IIRC require the children to wear biometric data collection bracelets.

Bill Ayers, The Tides Foundation, and Rupert Murdoch, yes Rupert Murdoch, are just a few of the supporters of this program.

Clearly, you don't know anything about Common Core.
Link Posted: 3/19/2013 6:46:43 PM EDT
Originally Posted By scrybe:

Standardized indoctrination.


FPNI.

States should have their own Departments of Education IMO.
Link Posted: 3/19/2013 6:53:37 PM EDT
How many kids has the Dept of Education, actually educated ? ZERO
How many Kilowatts of Energy has the Dept Of Energy generated ? ZERO
How much stuff has DOT transported ? ZERO
How much Commerce has the dept of commerce engaged in? ZERO

etc How many regs have the above and others created to STOP education from taking place, energy from being produced, goods getting to market and stifle commerce? MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS.
Govt doesn't make things happen it throttles and stifles them from happening
Link Posted: 3/19/2013 6:55:48 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/19/2013 7:49:44 PM EDT
To keep the people who run the show and all their puppets in power.
Link Posted: 3/19/2013 7:55:47 PM EDT
How else are you going to make sure children become Democrat voters for the next 200 years?
Link Posted: 3/20/2013 4:45:36 AM EDT

Originally Posted By KBaker:
Originally Posted By scrybe:

Standardized indoctrination.


This.

FPNIA
Link Posted: 3/20/2013 4:52:39 AM EDT
We don't need it. We also don't need hundreds of other agencies, bureaus, commissions and departments.
Link Posted: 3/20/2013 5:07:28 AM EDT
It provides the illusion of education, since the real thing is too difficult.
Link Posted: 3/20/2013 5:09:15 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/20/2013 5:09:56 AM EDT by John_Wayne777]
Link Posted: 3/20/2013 5:11:41 AM EDT
To waste more tax dollars?
Link Posted: 3/20/2013 5:17:10 AM EDT
If you really want your head to explode, read this:

Common Core

States are basically being FORCED to follow these standards or lose funding.
Link Posted: 3/20/2013 5:17:35 AM EDT
Without the Ministry of Truth, how would the local teacher-drones know what to teach our children?
Link Posted: 3/20/2013 5:19:36 AM EDT
to produce low-information votes, i.e. indoctrination as previously said.
Link Posted: 3/20/2013 5:20:37 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Cabby:
To keep folks from ending thread titles in prepositions...

Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile

Came in here to post this.
Link Posted: 3/20/2013 5:21:58 AM EDT
Control and the notion that everything must have administrators.
Link Posted: 3/20/2013 5:23:29 AM EDT
Simple because State-run schools (government schools) are one plank of the Communist Manifesto. If I recall correctly, America now has most of those planks enshrined in law.
Link Posted: 3/20/2013 5:30:20 AM EDT
And WHY do they need shotguns?

http://usgovinfo.about.com/b/2010/03/18/why-the-dept-of-education-needs-shotguns.htm

While the U.S. Department of Education's notice of intent to buy 27 brand-new Model 870 police-grade 12-gauge shotguns may conjure up visions of jack-booted federal thugs marching down the halls of your local grade school, the Department's need for the guns is valid.

more at link..........
Link Posted: 3/20/2013 5:37:58 AM EDT
(Should be) a State's rights issue. Just wait till you can not pass college entrance exams without attending CORE based "education".
Link Posted: 3/20/2013 5:40:03 AM EDT
Link Posted: 3/20/2013 5:59:37 AM EDT

It even has requirements that children undergo an annual 400+ question data point collection test, and IIRC require the children to wear biometric data collection bracelets.



They could color them white for those determined to be inheritors of 'white privilege' and black for those who've come from a background of being 'historically disadvantaged' from anywhere on the planet.
Link Posted: 3/20/2013 6:08:12 AM EDT
Same reason they don't want homeschooling
Link Posted: 3/20/2013 6:08:23 AM EDT
it was created as a shield. now anytime someone wants less governmebt spending they get to declare that children will suffer.
Link Posted: 3/20/2013 6:12:16 AM EDT
Originally Posted By AlvinYork:
Originally Posted By hotbiggun42:
To launder money to the Democrat party.




and unions.



It is through the unions they launder it.
Link Posted: 3/20/2013 6:12:53 AM EDT

Originally Posted By scrybe:

Standardized indoctrination.

Word.
Link Posted: 3/20/2013 6:15:31 AM EDT
It's awfully difficult to change the thinking and control the thought of future generations if you have 50 states, each with multiple school districts, doin their own thing. It must be centrally controlled, or the "progressive" agenda would fail. That's why.
Link Posted: 3/20/2013 6:20:28 AM EDT
Just think, conservatives used to be against the DoE.
George Bush doubled the size of it.

We have such depts because people expect the government to do things for them that the government shouldn't do. I imagine most here send their children to public schools. It is just another form of government handouts/ welfare that is probably ok with most because they do it. In reality they are perpetuating the nanny state and taking taxpayer dollars. So I guess the answer to you question is because people think the government should be responsible for raising and educating their children.
Link Posted: 3/20/2013 6:25:31 AM EDT
All you Ron Paulbots supporting the abolishment of the Dept of Education are nuts.
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