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Posted: 1/20/2013 5:34:51 PM EST
I'd imagine it's a good percentage.
Link Posted: 1/20/2013 5:42:26 PM EST
[#1]
I did a quick Google search, and couldn't find much data.  This is from Wikepeidia: According to a 2012 CNN/Opinion Research Corporation poll, 10% of Americans support banning all guns except for police and authorized personnel, 76% support gun ownership with some restrictions, and 10% support gun ownership with no restrictions."  I'm guessing that 10% is all on the left.
Link Posted: 1/20/2013 5:51:50 PM EST
[#2]
Quoted:
I did a quick Google search, and couldn't find much data.  This is from Wikepeidia: According to a 2012 CNN/Opinion Research Corporation poll, 10% of Americans support banning all guns except for police and authorized personnel, 76% support gun ownership with some restrictions, and 10% support gun ownership with no restrictions."  I'm guessing that 10% is all on the left.


And the other 10% is ARFCOM.
Link Posted: 1/20/2013 5:56:08 PM EST
[#3]
87%
Link Posted: 1/20/2013 6:01:56 PM EST
[#4]
I'd like to think a lot don't care, most people seem to have ambivalent feelings on the subject, if they don't like or own guns then they just don't care or if they don't like them it's not a strong feeling.  I have many liberal friends on FB and very few bother debating me but at the same time only a handful of people are really pro-gun too, so a lot of people who aren't gun people just don't seem to care.  Hopefully they recognize they don't know enough about the subject and know the politicians won't or can't really stop the occasionally crazy person from doing something crazy.
Link Posted: 1/20/2013 6:07:14 PM EST
[#5]
The fact this is even an issue is an indicator of a complete failure of civic education.
Link Posted: 1/20/2013 6:13:13 PM EST
[#6]
A few googs suggest that "gun ban" is about half as popular amongst the electorate than it was in 1990.   You have to massage the data a bit, but what I think you'll find, to answer you question, is that the edges of the  2A spectrum are invariant, only the center moves.  

Cutting to the chase we get: "most" of the left wants a total ban on ownership.   Always has.
Link Posted: 1/20/2013 6:47:12 PM EST
[#7]
I lean left and see no problem with gun ownership.  In fact I enjoy being able to carry concealed, I enjoy putting rounds down range, and I enjoy being able to provide some sort of protection for myself and my family in and outside of our homes (although I hope it never comes down to me having to pull the trigger on someone).

I think its a bad misconception that all democrats want to do away with gun ownership by average civilians such as you and I.  In fact every person I know that leans left has no issue with people owning guns.  The only issue that comes up in conversation is how some low life scum bag or super nut job can get their hands on them to do some of the awful things that gets the country's panties in a bunch to start to question the rights of all of us.

As a man who leans left do I want to see us all disarmed... No.

As a man who leans left do I think there should be a ban on the type of weapons we should have access to... No.

As a man who leans left do I think it should be harder or even impossible for some people to purchase weapons or obtain conceal and carry permits... Absolutely!

I've witness 1st hand some people who have no business with access to butter knives let alone a firearm.  My only issue is I don't have a solution to offer up to anyone about how to keep firearms out of reach to that small portion of the population.

I do have one suggestion though.  Instead of feeding the "corporate prison machine" or jamming up our tax dollars putting people on trial for possessing a weapon or attempting to possess a weapon unlawfully, don't take them to jail, don't give them a trial.  Simply make continuous examples out of them by taking them to the center of town then beat the breaks off of them with the weapon they were found with or attempted to get.  After they received a through @$$ beating cut off their trigger fingers and thumbs!  I bet people would think a little harder about getting things unlawfully or doing something that would lead to the possibility of them being caught knowing the consequence.
Link Posted: 1/20/2013 6:51:48 PM EST
[#8]
Quoted:
I lean left and see no problem with gun ownership.  In fact I enjoy being able to carry concealed, I enjoy putting rounds down range, and I enjoy being able to provide some sort of protection for myself and my family in and outside of our homes (although I hope it never comes down to me having to pull the trigger on someone).

I think its a bad misconception that all democrats want to do away with gun ownership by average civilians such as you and I.  In fact every person I know that leans left has no issue with people owning guns.  The only issue that comes up in conversation is how some low life scum bag or super nut job can get their hands on them to do some of the awful things that gets the country's panties in a bunch to start to question the rights of all of us.

As a man who leans left do I want to see us all disarmed... No.

As a man who leans left do I think there should be a ban on the type of weapons we should have access to... No.

As a man who leans left do I think it should be harder or even impossible for some people to purchase weapons or obtain conceal and carry permits... Absolutely!

I've witness 1st hand some people who have no business with access to butter knives let alone a firearm.  My only issue is I don't have a solution to offer up to anyone about how to keep firearms out of reach to that small portion of the population.

I do have one suggestion though.  Instead of feeding the "corporate prison machine" or jamming up our tax dollars putting people on trial for possessing a weapon or attempting to possess a weapon unlawfully, don't take them to jail, don't give them a trial.  Simply make continuous examples out of them by taking them to the center of town then beat the breaks off of them with the weapon they were found with or attempted to get.  After they received a through @$$ beating cut off their trigger fingers and thumbs!  I bet people would think a little harder about getting things unlawfully or doing something that would lead to the possibility of them being caught knowing the consequence.


This should get interesting.
Link Posted: 1/20/2013 6:52:02 PM EST
[#9]
Quoted:
I lean left and see no problem with gun ownership.  In fact I enjoy being able to carry concealed, I enjoy putting rounds down range, and I enjoy being able to provide some sort of protection for myself and my family in and outside of our homes (although I hope it never comes down to me having to pull the trigger on someone).

I think its a bad misconception that all democrats want to do away with gun ownership by average civilians such as you and I.  In fact every person I know that leans left has no issue with people owning guns.  The only issue that comes up in conversation is how some low life scum bag or super nut job can get their hands on them to do some of the awful things that gets the country's panties in a bunch to start to question the rights of all of us.

As a man who leans left do I want to see us all disarmed... No.

As a man who leans left do I think there should be a ban on the type of weapons we should have access to... No.

As a man who leans left do I think it should be harder or even impossible for some people to purchase weapons or obtain conceal and carry permits... Absolutely!

I've witness 1st hand some people who have no business with access to butter knives let alone a firearm.  My only issue is I don't have a solution to offer up to anyone about how to keep firearms out of reach to that small portion of the population.

I do have one suggestion though.  Instead of feeding the "corporate prison machine" or jamming up our tax dollars putting people on trial for possessing a weapon or attempting to possess a weapon unlawfully, don't take them to jail, don't give them a trial.  Simply make continuous examples out of them by taking them to the center of town then beat the breaks off of them with the weapon they were found with or attempted to get.  After they received a through @$$ beating cut off their trigger fingers and thumbs!  I bet people would think a little harder about getting things unlawfully or doing something that would lead to the possibility of them being caught knowing the consequence.


Well, I'm sure this will escalate quickly.
Link Posted: 1/20/2013 6:55:19 PM EST
[#10]
100%
Link Posted: 1/20/2013 6:56:30 PM EST
[#11]





Quoted:





I think its a bad misconception that all democrats want to do away with gun ownership by average civilians such as you and I. In fact every person I know that leans left has no issue with people owning guns.





I'm going to have to disagree with you here.





Can't tell you how many lefties I've heard say something close to "I don't think anyone should own guns."



Please don't tell me you voted for Obama.





 
Link Posted: 1/20/2013 6:57:22 PM EST
[#12]
Quoted:
I lean left and see no problem with gun ownership.  In fact I enjoy being able to carry concealed, I enjoy putting rounds down range, and I enjoy being able to provide some sort of protection for myself and my family in and outside of our homes (although I hope it never comes down to me having to pull the trigger on someone).

I think its a bad misconception that all democrats want to do away with gun ownership by average civilians such as you and I.  In fact every person I know that leans left has no issue with people owning guns.  The only issue that comes up in conversation is how some low life scum bag or super nut job can get their hands on them to do some of the awful things that gets the country's panties in a bunch to start to question the rights of all of us.

As a man who leans left do I want to see us all disarmed... No.

As a man who leans left do I think there should be a ban on the type of weapons we should have access to... No.

As a man who leans left do I think it should be harder or even impossible for some people to purchase weapons or obtain conceal and carry permits... Absolutely!

I've witness 1st hand some people who have no business with access to butter knives let alone a firearm.  My only issue is I don't have a solution to offer up to anyone about how to keep firearms out of reach to that small portion of the population.

I do have one suggestion though.  Instead of feeding the "corporate prison machine" or jamming up our tax dollars putting people on trial for possessing a weapon or attempting to possess a weapon unlawfully, don't take them to jail, don't give them a trial.  Simply make continuous examples out of them by taking them to the center of town then beat the breaks off of them with the weapon they were found with or attempted to get.  After they received a through @$$ beating cut off their trigger fingers and thumbs!  I bet people would think a little harder about getting things unlawfully or doing something that would lead to the possibility of them being caught knowing the consequence.


So your solution to stop criminals is to pass more laws, which they will ignore anyways?

It's a proven fact... making something "hard to get" only limits law abiding citizens. The criminals/crazies will ALWAYS have guns.

The issue here is a society that does not value human life or have strong morals anymore. No, I'm not talking about more religion being the answer, I'm saying people need to find a set of morals and stick to it. And personal responsibility needs to come back from the dead as well.

Along with un-fucking the mental health system.
Link Posted: 1/20/2013 6:58:36 PM EST
[#13]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I lean left and see no problem with gun ownership.  In fact I enjoy being able to carry concealed, I enjoy putting rounds down range, and I enjoy being able to provide some sort of protection for myself and my family in and outside of our homes (although I hope it never comes down to me having to pull the trigger on someone).

I think its a bad misconception that all democrats want to do away with gun ownership by average civilians such as you and I.  In fact every person I know that leans left has no issue with people owning guns.  The only issue that comes up in conversation is how some low life scum bag or super nut job can get their hands on them to do some of the awful things that gets the country's panties in a bunch to start to question the rights of all of us.

As a man who leans left do I want to see us all disarmed... No.

As a man who leans left do I think there should be a ban on the type of weapons we should have access to... No.

As a man who leans left do I think it should be harder or even impossible for some people to purchase weapons or obtain conceal and carry permits... Absolutely!

I've witness 1st hand some people who have no business with access to butter knives let alone a firearm.  My only issue is I don't have a solution to offer up to anyone about how to keep firearms out of reach to that small portion of the population.

I do have one suggestion though.  Instead of feeding the "corporate prison machine" or jamming up our tax dollars putting people on trial for possessing a weapon or attempting to possess a weapon unlawfully, don't take them to jail, don't give them a trial.  Simply make continuous examples out of them by taking them to the center of town then beat the breaks off of them with the weapon they were found with or attempted to get.  After they received a through @$$ beating cut off their trigger fingers and thumbs!  I bet people would think a little harder about getting things unlawfully or doing something that would lead to the possibility of them being caught knowing the consequence.


Well, I'm sure this will escalate quickly.


You know how I know he's a liberal?

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Link Posted: 1/20/2013 7:31:24 PM EST
[#14]



Quoted:






Since Paul locked your "Why Blame All Democrats?" thread a millisecond before I hit submit, allow me to respond here.



Consider the fraction of Democrats that want to ban guns.





Consider the fraction of gun owners that are crazy go nuts and perpetrate mass murders.





Which group of people, gun owners or Democrats, have more of a problem when it comes to blanket condemnation of the other?



 
Link Posted: 1/20/2013 7:33:09 PM EST
[#15]
Quoted:
I lean left and see no problem with gun ownership.  In fact I enjoy being able to carry concealed, I enjoy putting rounds down range, and I enjoy being able to provide some sort of protection for myself and my family in and outside of our homes (although I hope it never comes down to me having to pull the trigger on someone).

I think its a bad misconception that all democrats want to do away with gun ownership by average civilians such as you and I.  In fact every person I know that leans left has no issue with people owning guns.  The only issue that comes up in conversation is how some low life scum bag or super nut job can get their hands on them to do some of the awful things that gets the country's panties in a bunch to start to question the rights of all of us.

As a man who leans left do I want to see us all disarmed... No.

As a man who leans left do I think there should be a ban on the type of weapons we should have access to... No.

As a man who leans left do I think it should be harder or even impossible for some people to purchase weapons or obtain conceal and carry permits... Absolutely!

I've witness 1st hand some people who have no business with access to butter knives let alone a firearm.  My only issue is I don't have a solution to offer up to anyone about how to keep firearms out of reach to that small portion of the population.

I do have one suggestion though.  Instead of feeding the "corporate prison machine" or jamming up our tax dollars putting people on trial for possessing a weapon or attempting to possess a weapon unlawfully, don't take them to jail, don't give them a trial.  Simply make continuous examples out of them by taking them to the center of town then beat the breaks off of them with the weapon they were found with or attempted to get.  After they received a through @$$ beating cut off their trigger fingers and thumbs!  I bet people would think a little harder about getting things unlawfully or doing something that would lead to the possibility of them being caught knowing the consequence.


This part of your statement:

    "I think its a bad misconception that all democrats want to do away with gun ownership by average civilians such as you and I. In fact every person I know that leans left has no issue with people owning guns"

Is patently false. Sure there exceptions. Lefties that are OK with guns. People that don't care or are ambivalent as stated previously. Blue Collar Union Member Democrats who Hunt (and are not aware that the Democratic party is comprised of Revolutionary Radicals who demonize the Right as Nazis and KKK'ers etc. because they can't win on the issues). But those are exceptions.

My proof? I read. Alot. Since I was a young teen (I'm 57) I've been a reader. And a news watcher. Including the "letters to the editors" and today's "comment" on articles and forum. As painful as that shit is to read, I've seen it and am seeing it everyday NOW. And having been around awhile I've worked with and met alot of people. And I have seen endless letters and comments my whole life from Liberals wanting to do something to restrict, reduce or eliminate Gun ownership. Gun ownership is not part of the Progressive Agenda.

And eliminating Gun ownership in this Country is the very obvious policy of virtually all the elected Democrats. HAVE YOU SEEN THE NEWS IN THE LAST 6 WEEKS YOU DUMB FUCK?

Who elected those Feinstein, Schumer and on and on? Answer: People that don't like guns or don't care.

Sure there's a few that hedge their bets a bit because they need to get elected. But at the first chance they go wobbly. Look at the WV Senator the other day. "You don't need more than 3 bullets to Hunt"!!!!!!

You may have Liberal friends who say its OK in your face because they know your OK, your not a "Gun Nut" a Right Winger. I KNOW A LOT OF LEFTIES. A lot of  them are good people, well meaning but they don't like guns.

Sir, you are either a liar or are one of the most stupid people around. Which is it?

The Radical Left has infiltrated and coopted many of our institutions. The media, higher education, k-12 education, many churches, unions, government employees and nearly the whole democratic party. Now they are working on the military, more churches and with people like Chuck Hagel, they are working on the Republican party too.

No, you are a liar. There are stupid people but not this stupid. Trying to calm us down. Like a rapist telling the victim in soothing tones that it'll be OK, they won't be hurt.

Go back to the Democratic Underground. They have a gun owners section. I've seen it. You know where its at.

And in the off chance that I am wrong about you being a liar, and you are merely one of the most uninformed people in America, then either get informed or get rid of your guns because you are to lazy or stupid to own them.
Link Posted: 1/20/2013 7:34:33 PM EST
[#16]
Doesn't matter if it's 1% or 100%. Infringement of the 2nd Amendment is a plank of the platform, and MUST be stopped.
Link Posted: 1/20/2013 7:35:56 PM EST
[#17]



Quoted:


The fact this is even an issue is an indicator of a complete failure of civic education.


This.  The RKBA is not delineated by the Constitution.  It's a bloody birthright.



 
Link Posted: 1/20/2013 7:36:20 PM EST
[#18]
Link Posted: 1/20/2013 7:36:46 PM EST
[#19]
Quoted:
I lean left and see no problem with gun ownership.  In fact I enjoy being able to carry concealed, I enjoy putting rounds down range, and I enjoy being able to provide some sort of protection for myself and my family in and outside of our homes (although I hope it never comes down to me having to pull the trigger on someone).

I think its a bad misconception that all democrats want to do away with gun ownership by average civilians such as you and I.  In fact every person I know that leans left has no issue with people owning guns.  The only issue that comes up in conversation is how some low life scum bag or super nut job can get their hands on them to do some of the awful things that gets the country's panties in a bunch to start to question the rights of all of us.

As a man who leans left do I want to see us all disarmed... No.

As a man who leans left do I think there should be a ban on the type of weapons we should have access to... No.

As a man who leans left do I think it should be harder or even impossible for some people to purchase weapons or obtain conceal and carry permits... Absolutely!

I've witness 1st hand some people who have no business with access to butter knives let alone a firearm.  My only issue is I don't have a solution to offer up to anyone about how to keep firearms out of reach to that small portion of the population.

I do have one suggestion though.  Instead of feeding the "corporate prison machine" or jamming up our tax dollars putting people on trial for possessing a weapon or attempting to possess a weapon unlawfully, don't take them to jail, don't give them a trial.  Simply make continuous examples out of them by taking them to the center of town then beat the breaks off of them with the weapon they were found with or attempted to get.  After they received a through @$$ beating cut off their trigger fingers and thumbs!  I bet people would think a little harder about getting things unlawfully or doing something that would lead to the possibility of them being caught knowing the consequence.


We can parole all those criminals to your neighborhood -- that will teach all those evil corporations.
Link Posted: 1/20/2013 7:37:16 PM EST
[#20]
Who really knows.  The retarded few who would enslave you, me and all the rest seem to be the most vocal of the lot.  They are probably the few, but screech the loudest, with the leftist media on their side.
Link Posted: 1/20/2013 7:37:24 PM EST
[#21]





Quoted:
I do have one suggestion though.  Instead of feeding the "corporate prison machine" or jamming up our tax dollars putting people on trial for possessing a weapon or attempting to possess a weapon unlawfully, don't take them to jail, don't give them a trial.  Simply make continuous examples out of them by taking them to the center of town then beat the breaks off of them with the weapon they were found with or attempted to get.  After they received a through @$$ beating cut off their trigger fingers and thumbs!  I bet people would think a little harder about getting things unlawfully or doing something that would lead to the possibility of them being caught knowing the consequence.



Do you realize how many sections of the Constitution that violates?  Have you even read the document that lays out your freedoms, and the restrictions of the government?





[edit: response]





 
Link Posted: 1/20/2013 7:40:18 PM EST
[#22]
Is chef-dash going to start posting dick pics?

Someone who likes guns but does not believe in the rule of law is a danger. Even more reason for all guns to be legal, so us law abiding citizens can put them down easily when they go apeshit and start shooting.
Link Posted: 1/20/2013 7:40:55 PM EST
[#23]
I'd say about 20%.  The problem is that it is the 20% which represents the elites and thus their power is entirely disproportional to their numbers.  In my experience true gun banners tend to come from very sheltered existences, which is why they think it's a good idea.  
Link Posted: 1/20/2013 7:43:27 PM EST
[#24]
Well, I'm sure this will escalate quickly.
[/quote]

Did it ever escalate... I've been called everything from scum, to liar, to a dumb F...
Link Posted: 1/20/2013 7:47:08 PM EST
[#25]


"I do have one suggestion though. Instead of feeding the "corporate prison machine" or jamming up our tax dollars putting people on trial for possessing a weapon or attempting to possess a weapon unlawfully, don't take them to jail, don't give them a trial. Simply make continuous examples out of them by taking them to the center of town then beat the breaks off of them with the weapon they were found with or attempted to get. After they received a through @$$ beating cut off their trigger fingers and thumbs! I bet people would think a little harder about getting things unlawfully or doing something that would lead to the possibility of them being caught knowing the consequence"

WTF is this shit?? You're trying to bait us into agreeing with you. Wasting tax dollars on Trials. Cutting off fingers and thumbs. Hey, we have laws already and punishments. You need to go to the real Nazi ? Crazy people websites where they promote that shit. This just proves another thing I see and read all the time. The Left thinks everyone Right of Center are Nazis or KKK'ers. And since that's not true that shows how fucked up you all are.
Link Posted: 1/20/2013 7:47:16 PM EST
[#26]







Quoted:




Did it ever escalate... I've been called everything from scum, to liar, to a dumb F...


How about "troll"?
You post leftist tripe on a gun board, and you expect to be welcome with open arms?
Your opening salvo indicates you don't know what the Constitution says, you only want to rule with an iron fist.  So why are you surprised at the reaction you get?
 
Link Posted: 1/20/2013 7:48:29 PM EST
[#27]
Quoted:
I did a quick Google search, and couldn't find much data.  This is from Wikepeidia: According to a 2012 CNN/Opinion Research Corporation poll, 10% of Americans support banning all guns except for police and authorized personnel, 76% support gun ownership with some restrictions, and 10% support gun ownership with no restrictions."  I'm guessing that 10% is all on the left.


What about the other 4%?
Link Posted: 1/20/2013 7:49:17 PM EST
[#28]
Quoted:

Did it ever escalate... I've been called everything from scum, to liar, to a dumb F...


Do you realize what you posted?
Link Posted: 1/20/2013 7:50:32 PM EST
[#29]
Link Posted: 1/20/2013 7:51:03 PM EST
[#30]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I did a quick Google search, and couldn't find much data.  This is from Wikepeidia: According to a 2012 CNN/Opinion Research Corporation poll, 10% of Americans support banning all guns except for police and authorized personnel, 76% support gun ownership with some restrictions, and 10% support gun ownership with no restrictions."  I'm guessing that 10% is all on the left.


What about the other 4%?


Pie.
Link Posted: 1/20/2013 7:51:31 PM EST
[#31]

Let no one forget how desperate the Civil Rights of American's are (whats with me and ending on prepositions, SHIT).






We are the gun owning populace residing on a 10x10 sand island that is slowly eroding around us. We are bickering and canabilizing each other.




Like Patton said. We are at the end of our rope and we need to tie a not and hang on.




Link Posted: 1/20/2013 7:52:07 PM EST
[#32]
Quoted:
I lean left and see no problem with gun ownership.  In fact I enjoy being able to carry concealed, I enjoy putting rounds down range, and I enjoy being able to provide some sort of protection for myself and my family in and outside of our homes (although I hope it never comes down to me having to pull the trigger on someone).

I think its a bad misconception that all democrats want to do away with gun ownership by average civilians such as you and I.  In fact every person I know that leans left has no issue with people owning guns.  The only issue that comes up in conversation is how some low life scum bag or super nut job can get their hands on them to do some of the awful things that gets the country's panties in a bunch to start to question the rights of all of us.

As a man who leans left do I want to see us all disarmed... No.

As a man who leans left do I think there should be a ban on the type of weapons we should have access to... No.

As a man who leans left do I think it should be harder or even impossible for some people to purchase weapons or obtain conceal and carry permits... Absolutely!

I've witness 1st hand some people who have no business with access to butter knives let alone a firearm.  My only issue is I don't have a solution to offer up to anyone about how to keep firearms out of reach to that small portion of the population.

I do have one suggestion though.  Instead of feeding the "corporate prison machine" or jamming up our tax dollars putting people on trial for possessing a weapon or attempting to possess a weapon unlawfully, don't take them to jail, don't give them a trial.  Simply make continuous examples out of them by taking them to the center of town then beat the breaks off of them with the weapon they were found with or attempted to get.  After they received a through @$$ beating cut off their trigger fingers and thumbs!  I bet people would think a little harder about getting things unlawfully or doing something that would lead to the possibility of them being caught knowing the consequence.


Troll
Link Posted: 1/20/2013 7:54:25 PM EST
[#33]



Quoted:


I lean left and see no problem with gun ownership.  In fact I enjoy being able to carry concealed, I enjoy putting rounds down range, and I enjoy being able to provide some sort of protection for myself and my family in and outside of our homes (although I hope it never comes down to me having to pull the trigger on someone).



I think its a bad misconception that all democrats want to do away with gun ownership by average civilians such as you and I.  In fact every person I know that leans left has no issue with people owning guns.  The only issue that comes up in conversation is how some low life scum bag or super nut job can get their hands on them to do some of the awful things that gets the country's panties in a bunch to start to question the rights of all of us.



As a man who leans left do I want to see us all disarmed... No.



As a man who leans left do I think there should be a ban on the type of weapons we should have access to... No.



As a man who leans left do I think it should be harder or even impossible for some people to purchase weapons or obtain conceal and carry permits... Absolutely!



I've witness 1st hand some people who have no business with access to butter knives let alone a firearm.  My only issue is I don't have a solution to offer up to anyone about how to keep firearms out of reach to that small portion of the population.



I do have one suggestion though.  Instead of feeding the "corporate prison machine" or jamming up our tax dollars putting people on trial for possessing a weapon or attempting to possess a weapon unlawfully, don't take them to jail, don't give them a trial.  Simply make continuous examples out of them by taking them to the center of town then beat the breaks off of them with the weapon they were found with or attempted to get.  After they received a through @$$ beating cut off their trigger fingers and thumbs!  I bet people would think a little harder about getting things unlawfully or doing something that would lead to the possibility of them being caught knowing the consequence.


People who piss me off by posting stupid shit like this should be publicly broken on the wheel.  If we're going to go back to the middle ages, no half-measures.



 
Link Posted: 1/20/2013 7:55:08 PM EST
[#34]
Chef-Dash................

You don't like being called bad names but you promote elimating trials for law breakers and just taking them down for public torture????
I'll add another bad name (Sorry Paul)

Fascist.
Because thats exactly what you just promoted. Fascism.
And Marxism and Fascism are nearly identical.
Read your history dude.

"Most Democrats are trying to ban guns" Right......................

Well ALL of their leaders are. And who voted forthose leaders.
Fascist Troll


Link Posted: 1/20/2013 7:55:31 PM EST
[#35]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
I did a quick Google search, and couldn't find much data.  This is from Wikepeidia: According to a 2012 CNN/Opinion Research Corporation poll, 10% of Americans support banning all guns except for police and authorized personnel, 76% support gun ownership with some restrictions, and 10% support gun ownership with no restrictions."  I'm guessing that 10% is all on the left.


What about the other 4%?


Pie.


Genius.
Link Posted: 1/20/2013 7:55:32 PM EST
[#36]
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No way that's true. I support civilian gun ownership, my father supports civil gun ownership, most of my shooting buddies are "left" and I know they would fight pretty hard over their gun rights. Do we not count because we are much more moderate and not extreme leftists?
Link Posted: 1/20/2013 7:57:14 PM EST
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No way that's true. I support civilian gun ownership, my father supports civil gun ownership, most of my shooting buddies are "left" and I know they would fight pretty hard over their gun rights. Do we not count because we are much more moderate and not extreme leftists?


What about leftism appeals to you?
Link Posted: 1/20/2013 7:59:04 PM EST
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No way that's true. I support civilian gun ownership, my father supports civil gun ownership, most of my shooting buddies are "left" and I know they would fight pretty hard over their gun rights. Do we not count because we are much more moderate and not extreme leftists?


Cool, du reinforcements!

Do you believe in personal responsibility?
Link Posted: 1/20/2013 8:06:57 PM EST
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Link Posted: 1/20/2013 8:08:33 PM EST
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As far as the OP's question,
Most people on the Left are good people. Like most people on the Right are good people.
But we have evolved such different stands on the issues that there is a terrible divide.

But, as stated by others here, the activists and the Leaders are Radicals. And radically anti-gun
And one of the two main tools they use to keep people on their side is to dishonestly and fraudulently demonize the Right.
The other of course is to promise all kinds of things to buy votes.
So the Radical leaders abuse these good people and us.

Put best by Geohan recently:

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Conservatives see the world for what it is, and make preps/policies to make it better. Liberals imagine the world they want to live in, and make plans/policies as if they lived in that world.
Link Posted: 1/20/2013 8:19:24 PM EST
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I know a lot of people who are pretty far left leaning and actually only a few of them are even slightly anti gun. honestly guns are just a non issue to most of the left leaning folks I know
Link Posted: 1/20/2013 8:27:16 PM EST
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No way that's true. I support civilian gun ownership, my father supports civil gun ownership, most of my shooting buddies are "left" and I know they would fight pretty hard over their gun rights. Do we not count because we are much more moderate and not extreme leftists?


dawgdayz,
Most of us don't normally have problems with Moderates, Centrists, and Left of Center people. We want you as allies. But so many are siding with the far Left too often,, on almost every issue. They don't even recognize the Far Left is in Control of many of our institutions. Its just a fact.
Moderates siding TOO OFTEN with the left has led us to where we are. And now the RIght is demonized as some kind of extremists?

My natural stands are mostly right of center. And I buckle over to the left on a couple of issues and hard to the right on a couple. Most firm conservatives would call me a moderate. I agree. But I vote to my right. I have moved to the right because this country is in danger of falling into a permanent lefist state. The danger is from the Left. They will be the facsists that they have been every where else. Except Europe, where its soft-fascism and may soon become very bad over there. All those promises they can't pay for.

My heart is where yours is. We can help the people that can't help themselves. No one will starve. But there has to be limits. Otherwise the never ending list of freebees will overwhelm us.
We are spending one thousand two hundred billion dollars MORE than we have coming in EVERY YEAR.
This will not be an easy thing to stop. Probably the hardest thing since ending slavery.
We may not succede.
Don't let your emotions make your decisions for you.
Join us.

Where are all your and your liberal friends letter and calls to the Elected officals?
Donations to ????????
Now is the time to join us.
Otherwise very soon you will be a Gun loving liberal with no guns.
Join us.
You will find that we are not the monsters that the elected Democrats andthe media protray us be.



Link Posted: 1/20/2013 8:40:36 PM EST
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I know a lot of people who are pretty far left leaning and actually only a few of them are even slightly anti gun. honestly guns are just a non issue to most of the left leaning folks I know


OK, this may be true.
It is not what I see on the comments on news articles and letter to the editors NOR the articles written by the Leftist Media
Granted those people would be the activists.

And those people you just described vote into office nearly entirely anti-gun officals.
Did you watch Cuomo's speech. I mean he was foaming at the mouth.

So what you describe may be true, but it is a distinction without a difference.
They "don't care" so they vote in people who are Rabidly anti-gun AND very Radical on nearly all other issues.
If they "don't care" about important issues, why are they voting at all?
Are they being forced to vote.
Why don't these pro-gun liberals and moderates sway more elections?
Certainly theres other issues more important to most citizens.
I know the independents and swing voters do sometimes sway electins but Obama just got re-elected eh?
And he's alot farther left than most people understand.
I mean, for his whole life he didn't hang with any mere Liberals or moderates.
He stuck with the Revolutionaries. I don't think he thought he would ever get this far!
Good job liberals and moderates.
Turn in your guns now.

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No way that's true. I support civilian gun ownership, my father supports civil gun ownership, most of my shooting buddies are "left" and I know they would fight pretty hard over their gun rights. Do we not count because we are much more moderate and not extreme leftists?


What about leftism appeals to you?


I think it has less to do with what parts of leftism appeals to me, and more to do with which staunch conservative beliefs that I simply cannot force myself to agree with. I arrived at many of the viewpoints I embrace today by having an open mind and through life experience. These ideas were not engrained into me through upraising or based solely upon my geographical location. I'm not someone who simply "believes what he believes" without hearing the other side of the story. I'd rather not spend too much time on specifics because I would like to avoid a downward spiral of disagreement with all of you, however I will simply state that right wing perspectives on some issues simply do not sit well with me as they often come off as shortsighted "knee-jerk" reactions with arguments that are not fully formed. At the same time, I believe in a lot of same things the right wing folks stand for: supporting our freedoms, supporting the men and women of the US military, the constitution, gun rights, and all of our God given rights as Americans. In short, I don't think either side is perfect. I think there will always be plenty to complain about when it comes to us Democrats, but I will most likely continue to lean a little left of center.
Link Posted: 1/20/2013 8:57:35 PM EST
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Like half of everyone ITT has a post count below 130.  The troll accounts must be out in full swing right now.
Link Posted: 1/20/2013 9:04:23 PM EST
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Like half of everyone ITT has a post count below 130.  The troll accounts must be out in full swing right now.


I have seen a lot of statements like this in the year and a half I've been reading this forum. How did the "low post count = troll" connection first come about? Were all these people being called trolls when they first posted, so they simply have to continue the tradition?
Link Posted: 1/20/2013 9:07:09 PM EST
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I live in the Seattle area, and after taking a couple of coworkers shooting, unfortunately everyone I work with knows I own guns.  I've heard at least half of my coworkers say they want all guns banned.  Some are very vocal and even almost six years later, someone will still bring the subject up a few times a month even though I've never mentioned guns at work.  Not long after I was hired the President said not to hire anyone with a CPL.  The funny thing is that some of the guys that are most vocal about banning guns are the ones asking the most questions.  I put together my last AR with a coworker and his rabbi that were both on the news for the anti-gun rally downtown a couple of weeks ago.  They were very curious so while I haven't won yet, there's still hope.z
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Like half of everyone ITT has a post count below 130.  The troll accounts must be out in full swing right now.


I have seen a lot of statements like this in the year and a half I've been reading this forum. How did the "low post count = troll" connection first come about? Were all these people being called trolls when they first posted, so they simply have to continue the tradition?


Don't feel bad. I have the oldest Troll account on the board. Look at my join date and post count. I am also the "deepest Sleeper agent" I am the most dangerous man.. oh well the 2nd most.
They just mean that whenever theres big news on Gun issues, that the far lefties join and make nice for a little while and then they POUNCE on us and eviscerate us!
So everybody is watching the recent accounts for danger. But of course most of the new accounts are people like yourself with a legitimate interest in the activity.
Now we have our own sappers that join the Leftists sites and we turn them into....a ....... well i dunno, but we're real good at it.
So don't worry about it.















Link Posted: 1/20/2013 9:46:18 PM EST
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If the liberals don't like guns, they should include the question on the ATF 4473 as a disqualification.



They say the same thing about abortion.  Yet far more lives are lost every day than are killed by firearms in a YEAR.



If you are anti-gun because of life, you must be pro-life all the way around.  Consistency.


 
Link Posted: 1/20/2013 11:37:04 PM EST
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Both conservatives and especially fascist/commie liberals leave a lot to be desired. Libertarian is the new party of the masses, well it will be.

Fiscal conservatives, social liberals, strict constitutionalists. We don't need anyone telling us how to live our lives, not from religious zealots nor tyrants that the constitution doesn't explicitly allow.
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