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Posted: 1/21/2006 11:21:34 AM EST
ie. 1911's, M2's, B52 what item/s have been in military service the longest?
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 11:23:08 AM EST
Probably the good ol combat boot/duffel bag.
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 11:24:50 AM EST
P-38? no not the Mustang.
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 11:24:56 AM EST
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 11:25:45 AM EST
military items? The infantry soldier.
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 11:25:54 AM EST
Some people argue it is the Marine Officer's Sword. The Marines adopted it during the 19th century after we invaded Libya.

There is an active duty Army unit that still has revolutionary war muskets (The "Old Guard"?)
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 11:26:24 AM EST
In terms of weapons, the M-2 easily.
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 11:26:32 AM EST

Originally Posted By m-dc:
P-38? no not the Mustang.



out w/ the or c rats I imagine. They are handy.
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 11:28:26 AM EST
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 11:29:46 AM EST

Originally Posted By Dusty_C:
In terms of weapons, the M-2 easily.



Uh, 1911?
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 11:33:20 AM EST


Marine Corps dress Sabre.
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 11:35:48 AM EST
The Mameluke
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 11:37:40 AM EST
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 11:38:24 AM EST
Hair style
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 11:38:27 AM EST

Originally Posted By Sylvan:

Originally Posted By Mattl:
www.drxu.com/ebay/swords/SKMARINE2-4.jpg

Marine Corps dress Sabre.


Old guard uses revolutionary war muskets.
Its got to be used, not a decoration.



Yes. Something that would still go into combat.
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 11:39:24 AM EST
[Last Edit: 1/21/2006 11:40:24 AM EST by photoman]

Originally Posted By Sylvan:
Discounting the cermonial wea[pms (swords, 1903s, sabers etc), the 1911 is the most likely winner w/ modifications.
Unmodified would be tough to guess. K-Bar maybe? I am not sure if they still issue the leather gripped K-Bars anymore. P-38 isn't issued anymore but the T-Rats have the larger ones. Not sure when they were made.
The original metal trays used for chow may still be an issue item or the mess kit.


depends I'd go with the Ma duce only because the 1911 is not a general issue sidearm, it's only used in specialised units. While it's still going the MAduce is still the primary heavy MG is it not? That and wasn;t there a time when the 1911 wasn't really used anymore anyway(iisued for use in the field)?
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 11:39:26 AM EST
The soldier.
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 11:39:48 AM EST
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 11:40:34 AM EST

Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:

Originally Posted By Sylvan:

Originally Posted By Mattl:
www.drxu.com/ebay/swords/SKMARINE2-4.jpg

Marine Corps dress Sabre.


Old guard uses revolutionary war muskets.
Its got to be used, not a decoration.



Yes. Something that would still go into combat.



Ma Duece then. Dates back to just after WW1. I would take a Sabre into combat, guess I'm weird though. Seems like it would be good in the trenches or urban fighting.
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 11:41:41 AM EST
[Last Edit: 1/21/2006 11:42:07 AM EST by pv74]
Web belt....

Army blankets...

Dog tags
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 11:41:52 AM EST
[Last Edit: 1/21/2006 11:43:27 AM EST by JasonC]
Well since you said 'military item' I would say it's the Helmet or knife/bayonet.
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 11:43:44 AM EST
[Last Edit: 1/21/2006 11:46:10 AM EST by pv74]

Originally Posted By JasonC:
Well since you said 'military item' I would say it's the Helmet.



Helmet has changed many times over the years...

Thats like saying we wear a uniform...we always have...

Been wearing helmets since WWI I believe...


Web belts, and army blankets have stayed pretty close to their original form..
Dog tags were round in shape at one time...
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 11:47:26 AM EST
bullets
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 11:49:21 AM EST
hehehehe

MARPAT
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 11:49:57 AM EST
guidon?
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 11:51:14 AM EST
A general issue item, still in service, its got to be something like a light set, butchers knife set, something that is still on the property books, but not used very often. prior to the MOLLE gear you still saw canvas H suspenders being used, even as late as 2002.

I had a 64 dated footlocker issued to me in 98, I somehow "Lost" it and had to pay for it LOL

Link Posted: 1/21/2006 11:51:17 AM EST
[Last Edit: 1/21/2006 11:52:32 AM EST by JasonC]

Originally Posted By pv74:

Originally Posted By JasonC:
Well since you said 'military item' I would say it's the Helmet.



Helmet has changed many times over the years...

Thats like saying we wear a uniform...we always have...

Been wearing helmets since WWI I believe...


Web belts, and army blankets have stayed pretty close to their original form..
Dog tags were round in shape at one time...



Okay so are we talking about US military or just military in general? Never saw US in the title of the thread.
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 11:51:20 AM EST

Originally Posted By vanilla_gorilla:
The Mameluke



Some people argue that it is the spade on top of the company/platoon guideon.
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 11:51:39 AM EST
BAR ?
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 11:52:06 AM EST

Originally Posted By m-dc:
P-38? no not the Mustang.





Mustang?
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 11:52:37 AM EST
boots? I'm sure boot technology didn't change much from the time of the revolutionary war until after the civil war?? Thats a pretty long spread.

I got a great one.

HORSES! 1000's of years.
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 11:54:03 AM EST

Originally Posted By ar15_rifleman:

Originally Posted By m-dc:
P-38? no not the Mustang.





Mustang?



It was a plane.
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 11:54:52 AM EST

Originally Posted By Tanam:

Originally Posted By ar15_rifleman:

Originally Posted By m-dc:
P-38? no not the Mustang.





Mustang?



It was a plane.

The Mustang was the P-51 the P-38 was the lightening
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 11:55:17 AM EST
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 11:55:27 AM EST

Originally Posted By Dusty_C:

Originally Posted By Tanam:

Originally Posted By ar15_rifleman:

Originally Posted By m-dc:
P-38? no not the Mustang.





Mustang?



It was a plane.

The Mustang was the P-51 the P-38 was the lightening



I stand corrected.
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 11:55:47 AM EST
[Last Edit: 1/21/2006 11:57:21 AM EST by JasonC]

Originally Posted By Tanam:

Originally Posted By ar15_rifleman:

Originally Posted By m-dc:
P-38? no not the Mustang.





Mustang?



It was a plane.



I have heard of a P38 Lightning and P51 Mustang but not a P38 Mustang
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 11:57:36 AM EST
harsh language
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 12:01:28 PM EST

Originally Posted By LonePathfinder:
boots? I'm sure boot technology didn't change much from the time of the revolutionary war until after the civil war?? Thats a pretty long spread.

I got a great one.

HORSES! 1000's of years.



If we are taliking animals, I would say the DOG. Protection, food, tracking abilities, warmth -clothing.
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 12:05:08 PM EST
Socks???
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 12:11:25 PM EST
12 Guage 2 3/4" OO buckshot shotgun shells.
I believe they are/were in service since turn of last century and still in use today... over 100 years.
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 12:14:10 PM EST
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 12:15:01 PM EST
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 12:15:57 PM EST

Originally Posted By 82ndAbn:
Send an email to Gunny - maybe he'll answer it on 'Mail Call.'


Thats a DAMN good idea right there!
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 12:19:06 PM EST
[Last Edit: 1/21/2006 12:34:46 PM EST by 95thFoot]

Originally Posted By guardian855:
Some people argue it is the Marine Officer's Sword. The Marines adopted it during the 19th century after we invaded Libya.



Same swords, same exact pattern?


There is an active duty Army unit that still has revolutionary war muskets (The "Old Guard"?)


Ummmm... they're not original muskets from 1775-83, they are modern reproductions from Japan and Italy.
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 12:19:17 PM EST
Ok. I sent the question to Mail Call.
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 12:20:36 PM EST
Gunpowder or blackpowder, invented somewhere around the 12th century.
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 12:23:50 PM EST

Originally Posted By vito113:
Spitballs



If John Kerry had won, that would be the case....



Link Posted: 1/21/2006 12:28:02 PM EST

Originally Posted By w4klr:
military items? The infantry soldier.



+1 beat me to it
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 12:29:03 PM EST

Originally Posted By 95thFoot:

Originally Posted By guardian855:
Some people argue it is the Marine Officer's Sword. The Marines adopted it during the 19th century after we invaded Libya.

Same swords, same exact pattern?

There is an active duty Army unit that still has revolutionary war muskets (The "Old Guard"?)



Ummmm... they're not original muskets from 1775-83, they are modern reproductions from Japan and Italy.



So? Isn't the M16 that a soldier carries today a modern reproduction of an original made by a company in Belgium ?
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 12:30:47 PM EST
The PVT
Link Posted: 1/21/2006 12:30:53 PM EST

Originally Posted By Sylvan:

Originally Posted By yobo:
12 Guage 2 3/4" OO buckshot shotgun shells.
I believe they are/were in service since turn of last century and still in use today... over 100 years.


Issue shells are plastic.
The DODAAC would have to have stayed the same and they haven't



True, paper to plastic.
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