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Posted: 1/11/2005 2:56:32 PM EDT
Say from a 150 grain bullet, average load .303? Greater recoil than a 178 grain .30 06 or less?
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 2:58:28 PM EDT
a little sharper recoil than a 30-06. id say beteen the recoil of an m1 and an 03
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 2:59:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/11/2005 3:00:46 PM EDT by eodtech2000]

Originally Posted By 1Andy2:
Say from a 150 grain bullet, average load .303? Greater recoil than a 178 grain .30 06 or less?



NO!!! It may feel worse from the Brass buttplate however but a 30-06 has a whole lot more power.

ETA, more bullet weight = more recoil
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 3:01:27 PM EDT
Seems about the same as a .30-06 to me, but I have a Mark 3.
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 3:04:23 PM EDT
Just wondering, cuz that price at aimsurplus is really tempting.

What does "Minimum Type 03 Collectors FFL Required" mean?
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 3:09:20 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 1Andy2:
Just wondering, cuz that price at aimsurplus is really tempting.

What does "Minimum Type 03 Collectors FFL Required" mean?



Its a C&R license.

meaning you can have that enfield sent to your house.
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 5:42:22 PM EDT
It's about the same as any other milsurp, medium recoil. Not heavy, but you best hold the rifle properly. An incorrect hold can cause you to experience more recoil than you should. Be sure to snug it to your shoulder. A loose hold allows the rifle to gain speed prior to delivering it to your shoulder. Bench resting is conducive to a loose hold, so be aware. At about 100 rounds, my shoulder gives up. The Mk7 load (the standard one) is 174 grains, at about 2,600 fps.

Link Posted: 1/11/2005 5:45:35 PM EDT
I have no problem with it at all, even using 175 grain bullets. And I have a 1917 Enfield, sporterized, that doesn't kick all that bad either. But my M1 Garand gets my attention.

Ergonomics makes all the difference, IMHO. If the rifle fits you, recoil is much easier to deal with than if it doesn't.

(Having said that, my No. 5 Mk I Jungle Carbine isn't as vicious as I keep reading it should be, so bear that in mind.)
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 5:47:24 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 5:51:37 PM EDT

Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:
Enfileds are probobly the ugliest rifle ever fielded but damn if they don't shoot well.



Silence! I bet you drive a Pacer!
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 6:02:16 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 6:18:15 PM EDT
If you are getting way too much recoil from a Lee-Enfield, you might have a headspace problem. Take it to a knowledgeable gunsmith pronto.
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 6:37:37 PM EDT
Enough.
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 6:42:22 PM EDT

Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:
a 30-06 to me has more SNAP to the recoil. .303 in an enfeild is more of a hard push. the gun is heavy enough that it absorbs alot of it. Get one. Enfileds are probobly the ugliest rifle ever fielded but damn if they don't shoot well.

Hmmm.... I'll agree with you concerning the "ugly" part when it comes to the No. 1 Mk III's, but the No. 4 Mk I's I think are very good looking.

Unfortunately, I've had several, and none shot what I consider "well."

My No. 5, on the other hand, is actually pretty good.

The one that actually has safe headspacing, that is.
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 9:58:11 PM EDT
I’d say it’s reasonably tame in a rifle length SMLE. The .303 British cartridge is one of the milder battle rifle rounds, though by a smallish margin.

I’d put the recoil a step down from mil-spec ammo in a 8MM 98 Mauser, a 30-06 Springfield or a 7.62 X 54 Moisen Nagant.

Note that the AIM $89 No. 4 Enfields are really worn and were once in India. Still, for the price they’re a decent deal.
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 10:52:23 PM EDT
Or get one with good rifling, and have it converted to 7.62x39mm. I have the webpage for the guys
who are doing the conversion somewhere around here.....

With the weight of an Enfield, the 7.62x39mm won't feel like jack!
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 11:31:23 PM EDT

Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:
Enfileds are probobly the ugliest rifle ever fielded but damn if they don't shoot well.



Eye of the beholder, I guess.....but apparently you've never seen a MAS-36 or a Carcano. Yucky.

The Enfield is very utilitarian, but that has a beauty all its own. Great sights, fast action, 10 shot mag, rugged as hell.....that spells beauty to me.

Link Posted: 1/11/2005 11:39:41 PM EDT

Originally Posted By swingset:

Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:
Enfileds are probobly the ugliest rifle ever fielded but damn if they don't shoot well.



Eye of the beholder, I guess.....but apparently you've never seen a MAS-36 or a Carcano. Yucky.

The Enfield is very utilitarian, but that has a beauty all its own. Great sights, fast action, 10 shot mag, rugged as hell.....that spells beauty to me.

home.alltel.net/swingset/Gallery_Guns/images/No4mk2_Faz_1955.jpg



I agree. love the looks of the mk4.

you did a great job on that one? is that the stock that came with it?
Link Posted: 1/12/2005 12:10:44 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Triumph955i:

Originally Posted By swingset:

Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:
Enfileds are probobly the ugliest rifle ever fielded but damn if they don't shoot well.



Eye of the beholder, I guess.....but apparently you've never seen a MAS-36 or a Carcano. Yucky.

The Enfield is very utilitarian, but that has a beauty all its own. Great sights, fast action, 10 shot mag, rugged as hell.....that spells beauty to me.

home.alltel.net/swingset/Gallery_Guns/images/No4mk2_Faz_1955.jpg



I agree. love the looks of the mk4.

you did a great job on that one? is that the stock that came with it?



That's a 1956 Fazakerly, one of the famous Irish Contract unissueds that came in the mummy wrap. It's untouched, came out of the paper looking like that. 1956 was the last year the No4 was produced by Britain, I believe only 560 or so were ever made during that year.
Link Posted: 1/12/2005 4:32:07 AM EDT
My #4 MkII is a Fasakerley, but it's a '57 FTR.
Link Posted: 1/12/2005 4:40:43 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/12/2005 4:46:25 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Tanker06:
Or get one with good rifling, and have it converted to 7.62x39mm. I have the webpage for the guys
who are doing the conversion somewhere around here.....

With the weight of an Enfield, the 7.62x39mm won't feel like jack!



I have seen conversions to 7.62x54R, which would be sweet with all the cheap ammo and that the 7.62x54R is a rimmed cartridge makes it a pretty easy conversion.
Link Posted: 1/12/2005 5:08:02 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/12/2005 5:09:03 AM EDT by mjohn3006]
Number 4 MK 1* owner here. Its similiar to my 30-06. I would say a little bit more. But I also have a lighter stock on it than I do my 06.

Not enough difference to care.
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