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Posted: 9/22/2004 6:00:18 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/22/2004 8:56:27 AM EST by EagleArmsHBAR]
What is your favoriate all around rifle round? I I failed to list your favoriate, please list it.

.223 here, I love those ARs
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 6:01:13 AM EST

Anything 30 caliber or 7.62
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 6:01:14 AM EST
.22 lr
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 6:02:00 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/22/2004 6:02:24 AM EST by JHP]
7.62x51 out of my M1A....just the coolest IMHO
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 6:08:36 AM EST
I haven't found it yet, but I sure am enjoying the search.
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 6:10:44 AM EST
my ar /w/16"bbl. varmint or daewoo, 223 for me.
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 6:11:26 AM EST
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 6:14:00 AM EST
Swiss 7.5
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 6:14:34 AM EST
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 6:19:13 AM EST
Since you say 'all-around', I'd have to go with .308/30-06. There's not any job the .223 can do that the .30 caliber can't. But there certainly are jobs the .30 can do that the .223 can't. Granted, I like many calibers for specific purposes, but if I could only have one and it had to be a do-all caliber rifle, the .308 or 30-06 would be my choice.
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 6:19:41 AM EST
.308


SGtar15
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 6:21:15 AM EST
.223 baby.
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 6:24:11 AM EST
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 6:28:15 AM EST

Originally Posted By BayEagle:
Swiss 7.5



What's the practical difference between swiss 7.5x55 and 7.62x51?

They use the exact same .30-cal bullet...just the cases are a little different. Shoulder, angles, etc.

Just wondering...
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 6:36:39 AM EST

Originally Posted By Evil_Ed:

Originally Posted By BayEagle:
Swiss 7.5



What's the practical difference between swiss 7.5x55 and 7.62x51?

They use the exact same .30-cal bullet...just the cases are a little different. Shoulder, angles, etc.

Just wondering...



They aren't interchangeable. The question was "round" not bullet.

The Swiss GP-11 is, IMHO, a tremendously accurate round. It's milsurp that shoots like Match Ammo.
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 6:38:16 AM EST
7.92x57
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 6:38:35 AM EST

Originally Posted By Evil_Ed:

Originally Posted By BayEagle:
Swiss 7.5



What's the practical difference between swiss 7.5x55 and 7.62x51?

They use the exact same .30-cal bullet...just the cases are a little different. Shoulder, angles, etc.

Just wondering...



Same bullet, different case.

The case is, obviously 55 millimeters long (4 mm longer) and I believe (but can't be sure w/o looking at blueprints) that the case has more taper than the NATO round.
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 6:40:21 AM EST
5.45x39mm

However, with that being said, I would buy a 5.56x45mm anyday due to crappy ammo selections in 5.45x39mm.
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 6:50:13 AM EST
All around rifle round is .308

All around rifle is 5.56 AR15 / A2
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 6:51:46 AM EST
.308
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 6:55:38 AM EST
I had to go a little against the grain and go with the .30-06. It isn't the best for all jobs but it does great at many jobs. I can go with bullet weights from 110 to 220 grains and hit at far distances with just a little more umph than with a .308.

Probably I'm a little tainted in that the first high-powered rifle I really remember is my dad's 03-A3. Over 40 years later I still own an A3 as well as an M1. I also use a bolt gun in '06 as my "big" hunting gun.
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 7:02:12 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/22/2004 7:03:24 AM EST by motown_steve]
.458 SOCOM



ETA - .45 caliber, 300 grain projectile moving at 2100 feet per second!

Link Posted: 9/22/2004 7:03:50 AM EST

Originally Posted By gordo99:
I had to go a little against the grain and go with the .30-06. It isn't the best for all jobs but it does great at many jobs. I can go with bullet weights from 110 to 220 grains and hit at far distances with just a little more umph than with a .308.
Probably I'm a little tainted in that the first high-powered rifle I really remember is my dad's 03-A3. Over 40 years later I still own an A3 as well as an M1. I also use a bolt gun in '06 as my "big" hunting gun.




My favorite, too, and I'll take it in a bolt gun that does NOT take a detachable mag.

I'd like to choose a .308 AR as my favorite, but since nobody wants to standardize on magazines (nevermind that they're expensive), I can't.

The deal with different magwells on the different AR .308's reminds me of external extractors on a 1911....awesome idea if they were all the same, but since they're not, I'll just stick with internals....
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 7:26:26 AM EST

Originally Posted By BayEagle:
They aren't interchangeable. The question was "round" not bullet.

The Swiss GP-11 is, IMHO, a tremendously accurate round. It's milsurp that shoots like Match Ammo.



The question I asked was "practical" difference

I'm very aware they aren't interchangeable, but even .308 milsurp can shoot like match ammo...from a bolt gun, which is what I shoot GP11 through (a K31 in my case).

If by "practical" difference you mean "it's just different", that's fine, but if you're going to tell me the GP11 is inherently more accurate, harder-hitting, longer-range, etc...I'm gonna have to go and hoist a BS flag
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 7:29:37 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/22/2004 7:31:33 AM EST by slacko]
.22 cheap, fun, versatile.

Edited to add:

WTF?

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[ 19 ] .223 [ 25.33% ]
[ 3 ] 7.62X39 [ 4% ]
[ 1 ] 5.45X39 [ 1.33% ]
[ 40 ] .308 [ 53.33% ]
[ 40 ] other [ 53.33% ]


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Total Votes :: 75

Link Posted: 9/22/2004 7:33:05 AM EST
Another vote for 30-06


Link Posted: 9/22/2004 7:49:43 AM EST

Originally Posted By DK-Prof:
Another vote for 30-06





+1
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 8:01:46 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/22/2004 8:04:04 AM EST by wganz]
6.5 x 55 Swedish
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 8:49:32 AM EST

Originally Posted By topjimmy:

Originally Posted By DK-Prof:
Another vote for 30-06





+1



+2
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 8:51:44 AM EST
HA, .223 is taking a beating... on Arfcom!

I voted .308
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 9:12:10 AM EST

Originally Posted By photokirk:
7.92x57

+1
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 9:18:24 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/22/2004 9:20:12 AM EST by PAEBR332]
Another vote for the venerable .30-06.

Model 70 for deer, M1 for.. ping.
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 9:32:00 AM EST

Originally Posted By TeuffelHunden1775:
All around rifle round is .308

All around rifle is 5.56 AR15 / A2




Ummmm.......
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 9:40:36 AM EST
I have 2 favorites, and both fill a definite niche.

First is the 8mm Mauser, powerful round, good ballistics, mild recoil, and will take anything on this continent with ease. May not be the best round for the large bears, but it will do the job just fine.

Second is the 25-06. Flat shooting, very mild recoil, very accurate round, large weight range of bullets. Great groundhog, coyote, fox, deer, bear round. I would even use it for elk with the 120 gr Nosler or Barnes X bullet.

Just my opinions of course.
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 9:41:22 AM EST
.50 It scares people...
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 9:44:56 AM EST
I voted .308. If I could only have one centerfire rifle round, that would be it.

Granted, the 30-06 is a slightly better purely from the standpoint of the round itself. However, I also like the shorter action allowed by the .308 and the more plentiful supply of recently manufactured mil-surp ammo.

For a variety of reasons, there’s a lot to be said for using a round that’s in current military service.
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 9:47:24 AM EST
.308 holes make invisible souls hug.gif
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 9:59:51 AM EST

Originally Posted By Evil_Ed:

Originally Posted By BayEagle:
They aren't interchangeable. The question was "round" not bullet.

The Swiss GP-11 is, IMHO, a tremendously accurate round. It's milsurp that shoots like Match Ammo.



The question I asked was "practical" difference

I'm very aware they aren't interchangeable, but even .308 milsurp can shoot like match ammo...from a bolt gun, which is what I shoot GP11 through (a K31 in my case).

If by "practical" difference you mean "it's just different", that's fine, but if you're going to tell me the GP11 is inherently more accurate, harder-hitting, longer-range, etc...I'm gonna have to go and hoist a BS flag



Free country. Call "BS" all you want. The thread title is, "What is your favoriate all around rifle round?"

The Swiss 7.5 is the round I shoot most often (other than 9mm ). I hunt it with one of my K31's with a scout scope and I target shoot with another K31 and a K11. By the grace of God, someday I'll win the lottery and buy a Stgw.57. So if you're trying to get me to say the 7.5 is a .308 - then I'm not. BTW - I own two weapons in .308. The Swiss ammo is the most accurate ammo I own and the rifles are the most fun to shoot.

The Swiss 7.5 is my favorite round. And let me know what Milsurp .308 you're shooting that is comparable to Match. I've got Hirt, Aussie, Port and SA.
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 10:25:59 AM EST
.45-70
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 10:37:07 AM EST
If I HAAAAAAD to pick, it'd be 6.5X55mm Swedish.
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 11:23:54 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/22/2004 11:24:25 AM EST by gamesniper]
I voted "Other".

Actually, I prefer the .270, followed closely by the .30-06.

The .270 is fast, flat, accurate and doesn't beat you to death when you shoot it.

The '06 will drop anything on 2 or 4 feet in North America.

.223? Great round but the above have more long distance calling ability.
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 11:33:52 AM EST
.45-70 Gov't...


Link Posted: 9/22/2004 11:35:46 AM EST
.223
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 11:37:52 AM EST
I know my least favorite:

7.62x39
.22LR

Favorite round is a tougher question. I love .223 but I also love anything that will permanently bruise your shoulder...M44's M1's and Mauser 98's are good for that
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 11:46:35 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/22/2004 11:47:15 AM EST by The_Friendly_Sponge]

Originally Posted By gamesniper:
I voted "Other".

Actually, I prefer the .270, followed closely by the .30-06.

The .270 is fast, flat, accurate and doesn't beat you to death when you shoot it.

The '06 will drop anything on 2 or 4 feet in North America.

.223? Great round but the above have more long distance calling ability.




+1

I love my .270.

Remmington 700 BDL (LH bolt), 130 gr. Nosler Ballistic Tip, 59.5 gr of IMR 4350, CCI primers = 1/2 MOA at 100 yards with 5 shot groups.

7mm Remmington Magnum ain't bad either...
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 12:06:35 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/22/2004 12:14:21 PM EST by llanero]
If we're talkin' SHTF, total breakdown of society/back to living like it's the 19th century kind of thing, then .22LR (preferably a o/u setup with a 20 ga. At the same time I'd be furiously brushing up on my bow and arrow making skills.

If we're talkin' a temporary infrastructure breakdown (Wal-Mart will be open in a month or so), then 5.56.

But you've got to remember the wise words of the poet:


"There ain't nothin' that a man cain't fix
With $400 and a .30/06"




If it's a situation where I had enough money to do all the hunting I want to do and I had only one cartridge to choose from, I'd go with a .338Winmag.
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 12:09:28 PM EST
.22 Long Rifle
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 12:15:15 PM EST

Originally Posted By G-Rated:

Originally Posted By TeuffelHunden1775:
All around rifle round is .308

All around rifle is 5.56 AR15 / A2




Ummmm.......



I think hes saying that .308 is his favorite cartridge, but his favorite platform is an AR-15 in A2 configuration.
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 2:31:58 PM EST
.223
how about a poll on our favorite bullet type.
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 4:00:35 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/22/2004 4:01:14 PM EST by M1-Matt]
M2 Ball
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 4:05:29 PM EST
.30-06 THE standard by which ALL other rifle cartridges are judged.
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