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Posted: 10/12/2005 3:12:49 PM EDT
I have a friend( really!) that is married and has had an "experience" with another women. Basically they kissed passionately and she fondled his "chicken".

Is this cheating? Is it just as bad as going ALL THE WAY?

I know Bill Clinton didn't have sexual relations with that woman, it was just oral sex. What is your idea of cheating? Does penetration have to occur? Or is it merely the act of placing yourself in that position?
Link Posted: 10/12/2005 3:13:36 PM EDT
Link Posted: 10/12/2005 3:14:16 PM EDT

Quoted:
I have a friend( really!) that is married and has had an "experience" with another women. Basically they kissed passionately and she fondled his "chicken".

Is this cheating? Is it just as bad as going ALL THE WAY?





Yes.

Your friend should do the honorable thing and find a rope and good stout beam.
Link Posted: 10/12/2005 3:15:05 PM EDT
Link Posted: 10/12/2005 3:15:50 PM EDT

Quoted:
I have a friend( really!) that is married and has had an "experience" with another women. Basically they kissed passionately and she fondled his "chicken".

Is this cheating? Is it just as bad as going ALL THE WAY?

I know Bill Clinton didn't have sexual relations with that woman, it was just oral sex. What is your idea of cheating? Does penetration have to occur? Or is it merely the act of placing yourself in that position?

i consider even a kiss to be cheating and just as bad as going all the way.
Link Posted: 10/12/2005 3:15:51 PM EDT
That's cheating.

Now say if she accidentally ran into your "friend's" chicken, well then, that might be excusable.

But passionate kissing is way out.  
Link Posted: 10/12/2005 3:16:20 PM EDT
Is it cheating?  Yes.

Is it as bad as sexual intercourse?  No.

But it's a definite betrayal of trust.
Link Posted: 10/12/2005 3:16:39 PM EDT
I't obvious that moral decline is evident when you have to ask such questions.

If i stick it in your girlfriends pooper....is she really cheating?
Link Posted: 10/12/2005 3:18:17 PM EDT
Cheating?  Yes.
As bad as all the way?  I'd say no.  But still bad.

If you your friend had a few too many drinks and got a little frisky with someone, but then snapped out of it, felt mortified, and excused himself to go home, then I think no real harm done.

But the mistake should be learned from.  He should not let himself get into such a potential situation again.
Link Posted: 10/12/2005 3:18:57 PM EDT

Quoted:
Is it cheating?  Yes.

Is it as bad as sexual intercourse?  No.

But it's a definite betrayal of trust.

..............................betrayal of trust....that pretty much sums it up................he has been a bad boy!!!
Link Posted: 10/12/2005 3:19:28 PM EDT
I'm asking because he thinks it is not cheating and he shouldn't tell his wife. But the wife knows the woman and is friends with her, neighborhood friends...........
Link Posted: 10/12/2005 3:19:45 PM EDT
It's only cheating if you win.  
Link Posted: 10/12/2005 3:20:13 PM EDT
Link Posted: 10/12/2005 3:20:20 PM EDT
He's screwed.

Tell him to fall on his sword.
Link Posted: 10/12/2005 3:21:05 PM EDT
yes.




You should start a poll.
Link Posted: 10/12/2005 3:21:54 PM EDT
If you have to ask, then it is.
Link Posted: 10/12/2005 3:23:03 PM EDT

Quoted:
Would your "friend" have done this with "his" wife present?

If the answer is no then there you go.



I think this is the general rule.  You should ask him that, and if he says no, then suggest that he stop, for both their sakes.  Also, if your friends with his wife, well, I don't suggest telling her, necessarily, but maybe you should distance yourself from both of them.  This could get ugly.
Link Posted: 10/12/2005 3:27:37 PM EDT
Yup.

I thought you were going to say like, 'is hiding aces up your sleeve(when playing poker) cheating?', in which case it is only cheating if you get caught
Link Posted: 10/12/2005 3:29:34 PM EDT
Link Posted: 10/12/2005 3:31:23 PM EDT

Quoted:
It's only cheating if you win.  



Dude, you really need to read the post.
Link Posted: 10/12/2005 3:31:26 PM EDT
Ask yourself, would you want your girlfriend playing tonsil hockey with some guy and then letting him go deep sea diving with his fingers?
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No? I didn't think so...

HELL YES IT'S CHEATING!
Link Posted: 10/12/2005 3:32:45 PM EDT
Definately cheating.  and wtf uses teh term "chicken"?
Link Posted: 10/12/2005 3:33:35 PM EDT

Quoted:
Definately cheating.  and wtf uses teh term "chicken"?



COCK!
Link Posted: 10/12/2005 3:33:40 PM EDT
that one's easy to answer...  ASK HIS FUCKING WIFE!

~Dg84
Link Posted: 10/12/2005 3:34:14 PM EDT
Personally, I'd tell the wife.

If he can't be trusted to stay faithful to his wife how far can his friends trust him?
Link Posted: 10/12/2005 3:37:38 PM EDT
Tell him you'll let his wife rub your cock and kiss you so they are both even.

You could be like Octavian and Legionaire Pullo on HBO's Rome and kill the guy that is cheating on their friend's wife, to prevent the friend from finding out.

"Go on torture him!"
"Well, you see I've never actually tortured anyone"
"Well I suppose cutting off his thumbs will do"
"Ok..."
Link Posted: 10/12/2005 3:38:20 PM EDT
Maybe if the guy's wife "fondled his chicken" a little more, he wouldn't be getting some on the side.

I don't blame Clinton for cheating on his lesbian wife...just for lying under oath.
Link Posted: 10/12/2005 3:41:10 PM EDT

Quoted:
Maybe if the guy's wife "fondled his chicken" a little more, he wouldn't be getting some on the side.

I don't blame Clinton for cheating on his lesbian wife...just for lying under oath.



Well I guess we all know which poll answer you chose!
Link Posted: 10/12/2005 3:44:40 PM EDT

Link Posted: 10/12/2005 3:47:45 PM EDT
You call it a "chicken"?
Link Posted: 10/12/2005 3:54:05 PM EDT

Quoted:

Quoted:
I have a friend( really!) that is married and has had an "experience" with another women. Basically they kissed passionately and she fondled his "chicken".

Is this cheating? Is it just as bad as going ALL THE WAY?

I know Bill Clinton didn't have sexual relations with that woman, it was just oral sex. What is your idea of cheating? Does penetration have to occur? Or is it merely the act of placing yourself in that position?

i consider even a kiss to be cheating and just as bad as going all the way.



If that's the case, then you might as well get a little mileage out of it.

Basically, if you have to ask... you already know the answer.
Matt
Link Posted: 10/12/2005 4:14:24 PM EDT
depends..... is your friends wife a frigid bitch who hasn't given him sex in over 2 years and he has to resort to masturbating 10-15 times a week and the mere thought of another women being interested in giving him some needed attention got his chicken to dance?

just asking....

No Expert
Link Posted: 10/12/2005 4:17:10 PM EDT
If he can't tell his wife or do the same thing in front of her, it is cheating.
Link Posted: 10/12/2005 4:17:47 PM EDT
Cheating is going beyond the mutually agreed upon rules of the relationship.

If your wife says you can go bang anyone except for redheads and she won't care, then you can screw Maryanne but you need to leave Ginger alone.
Link Posted: 10/12/2005 4:17:55 PM EDT
I would expect to have my dick caught off at worse........and punched in the face at best if I did that........unless you have an "open marriage" its not far from sleeping around. I'm not married but I'd expect the same treatment as say getting busted for a long night of Hookers and Blow*........

*No - I don't do drugs*
Link Posted: 10/12/2005 4:21:43 PM EDT
Yup, if he can't tell his wife or do it in front of her it is cheating
I wonder how he would like to walk in on his wife doing the same thing
Link Posted: 10/12/2005 4:24:50 PM EDT
I think kissing is cheating but not as bad as Doin' it.
Link Posted: 10/12/2005 4:29:53 PM EDT
Cheating is when I use the left hand instead of the right!
Link Posted: 10/12/2005 4:30:48 PM EDT
Most women have a lower threshold for the definition of "Cheating".

Most men think that cheating is going all the way...

Some men say that "eating ain't cheating" and only consider intercourse to be infidelity.

Ask almost any woman and they will say that if a husband even talks about any subject with another female that they would not discuss with their wife, it is called an "Emotional Affair" even if he never put his hands on another woman.

(Personally, I think the term Emotional Affair is bullshit, but just go ask Dear Abbey and then duck fast.)
Link Posted: 10/12/2005 4:35:21 PM EDT

Quoted:
Would your "friend" have done this with "his" wife present?

If the answer is no then there you go.




Funny. Less than a day ago I left ship with a short stop to my shipmates house where I was picking his daughter up to take her back to college.(It was along my march route home and I did it as a favor)

When his wife kissed their daughter good bye, I said 'Boo hoo hoo. I'll miss you,too!' so she gave me a hug and a peck on the cheek to the amusement of all present. We shared a chuckle.

If Mrs Pic was present, she'd have probably shook her head and smirked.

IMHO, 99.9% of it all is intent.


Link Posted: 10/12/2005 4:38:15 PM EDT

Quoted:
I'm asking because he thinks it is not cheating and he shouldn't tell his wife.




two totally different thing there.....

it's cheating, and he shouldn't tell his wife.
Link Posted: 10/12/2005 4:42:36 PM EDT

Quoted:
You call it a "chicken"?



yes, according to the Team Forum it smore appropriate to say "Winkle."  
Link Posted: 10/12/2005 4:44:10 PM EDT

Quoted:
Tell him you'll let his wife rub your cock and kiss you so they are both even.

You could be like Octavian and Legionaire Pullo on HBO's Rome and kill the guy that is cheating on their friend's wife, to prevent the friend from finding out.

"Go on torture him!"
"Well, you see I've never actually tortured anyone"
"Well I suppose cutting off his thumbs will do"
"Ok..."



that my friend was a great scene laughed my ass off
Link Posted: 10/12/2005 4:49:39 PM EDT
Cheating doesn't count if the person getting screwed doesn't know about it.
Link Posted: 10/12/2005 4:52:28 PM EDT

Quoted:
16 pages easy.

At least.

If my SO is even willing to kiss another man while we're together. Then she is a cheating whore.  You must be 100% faithful.  Not even willing to try, or get in a spot where a kiss can happen.
Link Posted: 10/12/2005 4:55:33 PM EDT
Cheatibg.
Link Posted: 10/12/2005 4:56:38 PM EDT
Good rule of thumb here.  If you have to ask, you cheated.
Link Posted: 10/12/2005 4:59:45 PM EDT
So eating a burger at Hooters is cheating, too, then????
If you can't/won't tell your wife that you ate lunch at Hooters...
Link Posted: 10/12/2005 5:01:18 PM EDT

Quoted:
So eating a burger at Hooters is cheating, too, then????
If you can't/won't tell your wife that you ate lunch at Hooters...

Why would you be married to someone that you have to hide things from? That's what I don't get.  If you cannot go home and tell your wife everything you did that day, you don't need to be married, your heart isn't in it.
Link Posted: 10/12/2005 5:04:54 PM EDT
yes, its cheating. I bet he would think it was cheating if his wife was kissing someone else and rubbing that persons "chicken".. If you dont want it done to you, then dont do it......
Link Posted: 10/12/2005 5:05:37 PM EDT
Chicken rub... is that sort of like 'honking the jake?'
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