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Posted: 2/26/2006 6:34:19 PM EDT
Besides being non gun friendly, what state is the worst to live in? I hate Michigan, but we are fairly gun friendly so I don't think here would be the worst. I would think somewhere like New York would be, but I've never been there. So, what do you think?

Kris
Link Posted: 2/26/2006 6:35:57 PM EDT

Originally Posted By shop_rat45:
Besides being non gun friendly, what state is the worst to live in? I hate Michigan, but we are fairly gun friendly so I don't think here would be the worst. I would think somewhere like New York would be, but I've never been there. So, what do you think?

Kris



Kali-fuckin-phornia....
Link Posted: 2/26/2006 6:36:22 PM EDT
Massachusets
Link Posted: 2/26/2006 6:36:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/26/2006 6:37:22 PM EDT by MisterC]
What is the worst state to live in?

Depression.
Link Posted: 2/26/2006 6:37:06 PM EDT
poverty...
Link Posted: 2/26/2006 6:37:20 PM EDT
Illinois, Hawaii, New York, Kalifornia
Link Posted: 2/26/2006 6:37:31 PM EDT
Quickly becoming illinois.
Link Posted: 2/26/2006 6:37:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/26/2006 6:38:22 PM EDT by shop_rat45]

Originally Posted By MisterC:
What is the worst state to live in?

Deoression.



Sounds like some sort of state of... well I don't even know.

ETA: In before the edit!!
Link Posted: 2/26/2006 6:39:02 PM EDT
New Jersey
Link Posted: 2/26/2006 6:39:03 PM EDT
Gunwise, I would say Hawaii would be the worst.
Economically, Hawaii is also probably the most expensive.
Quality of lifewise, though, I think I'd go with New Jersey.
Link Posted: 2/26/2006 6:39:27 PM EDT
new jersey.

bad guns laws, and too many lee hotti wannabees
Link Posted: 2/26/2006 6:40:18 PM EDT
California's actually a pretty nice place to live, except for the gun laws of course. There are a lot of places that are really beautiful, and the climate is nice and moderate. The gun laws just ruin it...
Link Posted: 2/26/2006 6:41:01 PM EDT
Mexico
Link Posted: 2/26/2006 6:42:50 PM EDT
Louisiana.

Gun laws aren't bad..but everything else sucks.

Just my opinion of course..
Link Posted: 2/26/2006 6:47:04 PM EDT
The "little" PRK: Konnecticut. The second worst gunlaws on the books, crowded with assholes passing through from all directions, and crap weather 90% of the time.
Link Posted: 2/26/2006 6:47:40 PM EDT
for me, NY...as its where I am stuck
Link Posted: 2/26/2006 6:52:58 PM EDT
Sobriety, followed closely by california.

Seriously, california is the worst state in every way imaginable.
Link Posted: 2/26/2006 6:54:19 PM EDT
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NY is definatly near the top, if not at the top.


-K
Link Posted: 2/26/2006 6:56:50 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Outsider_10fp:

Originally Posted By shop_rat45:
Besides being non gun friendly, what state is the worst to live in? I hate Michigan, but we are fairly gun friendly so I don't think here would be the worst. I would think somewhere like New York would be, but I've never been there. So, what do you think?

Kris



Kali-fuckin-phornia....



My guess, you have never even been to California.
Link Posted: 2/26/2006 6:57:11 PM EDT
The one you're in... just kidding.
Link Posted: 2/26/2006 6:58:11 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ORinTX:
Sobriety, followed closely by california.

Seriously, california is the worst state in every way imaginable.



You may be the dumbest person in Texas.
Link Posted: 2/26/2006 6:58:17 PM EDT

Originally Posted By adair_usmc:
New Jersey



Too flat, too developed, too many police, and just fuckin' WEIRD (and not my kind of weird).

Of all of the states I've been in (about 13 or so) NJ is the one where I'd least want to live.
Link Posted: 2/26/2006 6:58:25 PM EDT
My list of shit states that I would never live in (in order)

1)Hawaii
2)Kalifornistan
3)The ENTIRE NE America
4)Illinois
Link Posted: 2/26/2006 6:59:15 PM EDT
It has to be New Jersey.

Rediculous cost of living, outrageous taxes, draconian gun laws that put Kali to shame, grbage dumps, dirty industry, corrupt politics, socialistic societal view.

It absolutely sucks. I refuse to live there.
Link Posted: 2/26/2006 6:59:58 PM EDT
Confusion.
Link Posted: 2/26/2006 7:00:35 PM EDT
New York for too many reasons to list and New Jersey cause it smells!
Link Posted: 2/26/2006 7:01:15 PM EDT
depends on the criteria for "worst" state. here in wv, everyone has a gun. we have 2 million people in the entire state and something like 30 million guns registered. when you're born here, you get a diaper bag filled with free samples, a baby blankie, free formula and a winchester 30.06.
Link Posted: 2/26/2006 7:05:12 PM EDT
Illinois. Stupid gun laws, cold weather and ugly women.
Link Posted: 2/26/2006 7:10:26 PM EDT
Ohio's got the worst ccw law. We can carry concealed but not in the car. In the car the weapon has to be either in a holster on your person in plain sight or locked up in the glove box or locked up in a transport case in plain sight. If that doesn't suck, I don't know what does....
Link Posted: 2/26/2006 7:25:09 PM EDT
I somehow doubt whether most of these guys dumping all over California have ever even been here. California has, without a doubt, the best weather, the most beautiful scenery, and some of the hottest women in the U.S. (Or the world). Aside from guns, my big thing is motorcycles; in most parts of the U.S., your motorcycle is garaged from about October--April. Here, we ride year round.

Most people who think they hate California don't know a damn thing about the state, and think that it consists solely of L.A. and San Francisco. Which means, essentially, that they don't know a damn thing about California. Most of the state is rural and pretty conservative.

To be certain, California has its downsides--the gun laws suck, the taxes are high, the traffic in urban areas is obnoxious, and the state's politics are dominated by these liberal asshats from that narrow leftist strip of the state stretching along the coast from L.A. to San Francisco. But, on balance, this has gotta be the best place to live.

Of course, for those who think "Kalifornia" is hell on earth, please keep thinking that way, and stay away accordingly; we've got more than enough people here already, and sure as hell don't need you here.
Link Posted: 2/26/2006 7:28:57 PM EDT

Originally Posted By MajorKong:
I somehow doubt whether most of these guys dumping all over California have ever even been here. California has, without a doubt, the best weather, the most beautiful scenery, and some of the hottest women in the U.S. (Or the world). Aside from guns, my big thing is motorcycles; in most parts of the U.S., your motorcycle is garaged from about October--April. Here, we ride year round.

Most people who think they hate California don't know a damn thing about the state, and think that it consists solely of L.A. and San Francisco. Which means, essentially, that they don't know a damn thing about California. Most of the state is rural and pretty conservative.

To be certain, California has its downsides--the gun laws suck, the taxes are high, the traffic in urban areas is obnoxious, and the state's politics are dominated by these liberal asshats from that narrow leftist strip of the state stretching along the coast from L.A. to San Francisco. But, on balance, this has gotta be the best place to live.

Of course, for those who think "Kalifornia" is hell on earth, please keep thinking that way, and stay away accordingly; we've got more than enough people here already, and sure as hell don't need you here.



+1!
Link Posted: 2/26/2006 7:32:31 PM EDT

Originally Posted By NotoriousSEG:
depends on the criteria for "worst" state.


Exactly. The thread starter stated state being worse because "other than the gun laws".
Based on that, I would have to say it would be any one of many of the Southern states.
Those people who bash NYS must never visit any part other than NYC.
Link Posted: 2/26/2006 7:35:20 PM EDT
Illi-communist-nois.
Link Posted: 2/26/2006 7:36:32 PM EDT
New Jersey, New York, PA, CT, MASS, do we see a pattern here?

TX, steers, queers, knuckleheads who can't read for comprehension, and Houston, El Paso and not a whole lot between them.
Link Posted: 2/26/2006 7:39:23 PM EDT
Depression!
Link Posted: 2/26/2006 7:39:31 PM EDT
Illinois - go join a Coast and leave the Midwest.
Link Posted: 2/26/2006 7:40:08 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Triumph955i:
Quickly becoming illinois.



I'd agree w/ that. The rest of us should vote Chicago OUT of the state.
Link Posted: 2/26/2006 7:40:19 PM EDT
NJ?
Link Posted: 2/26/2006 7:42:33 PM EDT
California. The land of fruits and nuts.

I've been there. Too crowded and too many crazy people. I won't go back unless I have to.
Link Posted: 2/26/2006 7:43:17 PM EDT
california hands down. the people there are the biggest ass hats this side of hell and the gun laws suck. i went to college in cali for 2 years and have a few relatives spread out all over there state. i would never ever live there again and hate that place with a passion.
Link Posted: 2/26/2006 7:50:22 PM EDT

Originally Posted By npd233:

Quickly becoming illinois.



I'd agree w/ that. The rest of us should vote Chicago OUT of the state.
Right. Make it like the Greek Republic of Troy- it's own city-state.
Link Posted: 2/26/2006 7:53:35 PM EDT

Originally Posted By PaDanby:
New Jersey, New York, PA, CT, MASS, do we see a pattern here?

TX, steers, queers, knuckleheads who can't read for comprehension, and Houston, El Paso and not a whole lot between them.



you are retarded
Link Posted: 2/26/2006 8:04:14 PM EDT
By the river gently being fuc*ed over ILLINOIS

Chicago
Shitty weather
Chicago
Shitty gun laws
Chicago
Shitty Cubs
Chicago
A state ran by Chicago mobsters.

Chicago city schools are made up of 90% of children being at or below the poverty line. (Source: NCLB Conference in Shitcago)

A guy from Chicago bragged about Chicago pizza. So, I went to a famous pizza joint and the pizza tasted like cardboard shit. A bunch of damed sauce with pepperoni and no seasoning. Could've went to damned Monicals. To top it the shit costed $20 for four pieces.

I'm gonna vapor lock...........time to cool down!!!
Link Posted: 2/26/2006 9:26:16 PM EDT

Originally Posted By macten:
Ohio's got the worst ccw law. We can carry concealed but not in the car. In the car the weapon has to be either in a holster on your person in plain sight or locked up in the glove box or locked up in a transport case in plain sight. If that doesn't suck, I don't know what does....



At least you can carry...

In NJ your fucked twice. NJ is a "May Issue" state, but by may issue they mean only if your a retired cop or you sucked the dicks of both your local police chief and Judge. Basiclly no chance of getting a carry permit.

The second way your fucked is some states will issue carry permits to non-residents, but if they live in a "May Issue" state and do not hold a permit in their home state...that state will not allow you to have a permit either. PA laws are like this...I can't get a PA carry permit because NJ will not issue a permit.

Be thankful you live in America and have the right to defend yourself. Those of us who reside in the Peoples Republic of New Jersey have no such right.
Link Posted: 2/26/2006 9:30:56 PM EDT

Originally Posted By shop_rat45:
California. The land of fruits and nuts.

I've been there. Too crowded and too many crazy people. I won't go back unless I have to.



I will second that.
Link Posted: 2/26/2006 9:35:53 PM EDT
I would hate to live in any state that's SO FUCKING FLAT THAT YOU CAN'T SEE MORE THAN 100 FEET AWAY.

Link Posted: 2/26/2006 9:38:32 PM EDT

Originally Posted By sum-rifle:

Originally Posted By Outsider_10fp:

Originally Posted By shop_rat45:
Besides being non gun friendly, what state is the worst to live in? I hate Michigan, but we are fairly gun friendly so I don't think here would be the worst. I would think somewhere like New York would be, but I've never been there. So, what do you think?

Kris



Kali-fuckin-phornia....



My guess, you have never even been to California.



Yes, way too many times.
screwy gun laws, overtaxed, over populated, over poluted (BTW, they still closing beaches due to haz mat washing up?), over trafficed ( too many GD cars), over leftist (is that a word?), too many car chases, too many gangs, too much asphault, too many head bashing LEOs( goes along with ^ I guess). too many illegals, too many Hollywoodites, too many SAnFransicites, hummmm I could keep going ya know !

PROS : Geograhical makeup in wonderfull, SOCal weather is superb, great Mexican food, good IT region.... i think that is it.

I see more U-Hauls going east, by 3 to 1 going west, that should tell you something. Not to mention how many small business I have moved to AZ, UT, CO, Tx, and everyother state. When business' leave, there's yer sign
Link Posted: 2/26/2006 9:39:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/26/2006 9:40:15 PM EDT by 4xys2xxs]
In before the Cali haters!


Oops!!

WAY too late.

Link Posted: 2/26/2006 9:49:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/26/2006 9:50:15 PM EDT by Red-Bucket-98]
[arnold] Kallie-for-neeyaa[/arnold]

This is how I see it.

Urban areas are dominantly liberal because the people need the city to provide water, sanitation and protection. City-folk are not self sufficient and feel better with laws which they feel protect them.

Rural areas are dominantly conservative because the people are self sufficient and do not want government meddling in their affairs. Rural-folk do not need laws because they can and will defend themselves.

If the city-folk over-rule the rural-folk in the state legislature, the results are overly restrictive gun control laws (Kalifornia, NY, NJ).

If the rural-folk over-rule the city-folk, there is minimal gun control (Arizona, Alaska).

This makes for a very simple answer. BURN THE CITIES!

HAHAHAHAHAHA!

Link Posted: 2/26/2006 10:03:52 PM EDT
Alaska

It is cold.

Expensive to live here.

Bears, moose, and and other critters that can kill you easily are abundant.

Roads are covered in Ice 6+ months out of the year.

Worst drivers.

Winters you have to drive slow because of road conditions, summers you drive slow because some fucktard in a $200,000 diesel pusher feels the need to drive 20 miles per hour below the speed limit because it might interrupt his cocktail party on the back deck of his land yacht to go any faster. Either that or the roads are being (re)constructed because the for some reason the lowest bidder that did it last time's work has not survived 2 seasons due to the fact that they totally skimped on everything that it would take to make a durable driving surface.


Link Posted: 2/26/2006 10:07:57 PM EDT

Originally Posted By copenhagen:

Originally Posted By shop_rat45:
California. The land of fruits and nuts.

I've been there. Too crowded and too many crazy people. I won't go back unless I have to.



I will second that.




I do make an exception for the DLI at the Presidio of Monterey. (I enjoyed the time I spent there - maybe because I was surrounded by other servicemen/women). Growing up, I lived in California for 9 years (San Dimas, Covina, W.Covina, Saratoga, Sacramento, Modesto, Carmel).
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