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Posted: 10/24/2004 10:16:07 AM EST
I know what it is,do you?The first person to get it right gets absolutely nothing.I am just wondering who knows.
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 10:16:51 AM EST
Ma Duece?
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 10:17:00 AM EST
Ma Duce.
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 10:17:09 AM EST
Browning M2?
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 10:17:16 AM EST
M2HB?

_Disconnector_
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 10:17:25 AM EST
I'm guessin' the M2HB?
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 10:18:31 AM EST
Yay I win Nothing!
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 10:19:07 AM EST
The Marine Officers sword. The second is the Marine NCO's sword.
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 10:19:09 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/24/2004 10:20:51 AM EST by J_Smith]
Springfield 1903A3 - still used as a line throwing gun.........for mooring up boats ( not combat - so I'm not sure this counts)


And the 1911 ( mostly or all new production) in some parts of the military - very selective parts obviously
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 10:19:21 AM EST
Come on fellas, the 1911 has been in service a decade more than the venerable M2.

USMC Force Recon, certain Army SF Groups have them still and the one group of operators that doesnt exist....

Link Posted: 10/24/2004 10:19:27 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/24/2004 10:21:34 AM EST by TGorsk08]
You weiner I said dont tell anyone.Yes it is the M2 Ma Duece.If you watched Mail Call this morning you would have seen the stuff.
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 10:23:51 AM EST
Didnt specify the U.S. Military.so...id have to say the Enfield
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 10:23:56 AM EST
M1911.
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 10:27:09 AM EST
M2 is the weapon that has been used the longest.It has beed modified slightly since the WWII version but it is still the M2.
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 10:28:00 AM EST

Originally Posted By WIgunnut:
Didnt specify the U.S. Military.so...id have to say the Enfield


Well, if we're going to play that game then how about the compund bow?

CW
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 10:30:46 AM EST
Better still - the tomahawk/hatchet as issued to some troops since the Revolutionary war - believe the Army Rangers still use these........
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 10:31:45 AM EST
come on... be honost here, it was the sword and we all know it.
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 10:32:36 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 10:32:38 AM EST

Originally Posted By DPeacher:
The Marine Officers sword. The second is the Marine NCO's sword.



+1
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 10:33:29 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 10:36:04 AM EST
Bare hands.

Seth
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 10:36:31 AM EST
his fist
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 10:37:02 AM EST

Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:
Bare hands.

Seth



damn 27 seconds
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 10:39:15 AM EST
I'm talking guns,used by the US military.Not ancient stuff.
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 10:39:27 AM EST
The Mameluke wins, hands down!
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 10:42:55 AM EST

Originally Posted By 2A373:
USS CONSTITUTION

www.ussconstitution.navy.mil/



True - but the USS Constitution which is moored in Boston harbor has been rebuilt several times and only contains a small percent of the original vessel. It does have active duty Navy personnel on board - but I dare say that they are not ready to fight any battles anytime soon. The only time I have heard of the USS Constitution getting underway is for big name VIP's.
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 10:45:35 AM EST
1911 hasn't been in use longer than the M2?...
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 10:47:23 AM EST
"only guns used by the US military"

Technically I am right then......because althought the Springfield 1903 has had its barrel rifling removed for use as a .30 line throwing gun - it is still used by the military and will fire normal .30-06 rounds ( with no accuracy). It is classified by the ATFE as a firearm still and is used by active duty military :)
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 10:49:38 AM EST

Originally Posted By J_Smith:
"only guns used by the US military"

Technically I am right then......because althought the Springfield 1903 has had its barrel rifling removed for use as a .30 line throwing gun - it is still used by the military and will fire normal .30-06 rounds ( with no accuracy). It is classified by the ATFE as a firearm still and is used by active duty military :)



I've never seen a 1903 as a line throwing gun. I have seen them demiled for ceremonial use, but all the line throwing guns I've seen in the Navy are M14s.
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 10:51:05 AM EST
The knife.
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 10:56:41 AM EST
This could go either way... US Military? Firearm? M1911, the M2 was adopted in 1921(It used to be the M1921). The 1911 is still in use in some parts of the US Military. If it's another military, the Brown Bess maybe? That was used for a really long time
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 11:01:54 AM EST
The US Coast Guard still uses the .30 line throwing gun - Springfield 1903 type - on almost every cutter it has. There is an M14 conversion and also an M16 version (next to useless). A bunch of M14's in the USCG are being actually brought back in service from Crane Indiana - but not for line throwing purposes at all.
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 11:09:22 AM EST

Originally Posted By 82ndAbn:

Originally Posted By DPeacher:
The Marine Officers sword. The second is the Marine NCO's sword.



I don't know for sure but I'm guessing this man is correct.




Only if you count ceremonial weapons, in which case I believe the 'Old Guard' may still have a few Revolutionary War-style muskets for that purpose (parades, etc)...

When's the last time a Marine actually stuck somoene with that sword?
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 11:09:26 AM EST
TGorsks08, how about posting your answer and putting an end to the speculation?
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 11:11:41 AM EST

Originally Posted By J_Smith:
The US Coast Guard still uses the .30 line throwing gun - Springfield 1903 type - on almost every cutter it has. There is an M14 conversion and also an M16 version (next to useless). A bunch of M14's in the USCG are being actually brought back in service from Crane Indiana - but not for line throwing purposes at all.



The question was the US military, not in use with DHLS.
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 11:15:21 AM EST
Ha Ha very funny.........technically we still are the military - tell that to all the Coasties currently in the Gulf - and there are a lot. Or the DC3 who got killed boarding a suspected Iraqi vessel with TACLET South and blew up in the subsequent bomb blast of Al Queda terrorists. Mostly DHS missions - its not DHLS - and still military too ( since 1790 for those needing a refresher of history).
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 11:16:44 AM EST
browning m2 .50 bmg?

wish the m1911a1 .45acp was still issued, stupid 9mm berratta
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 11:24:03 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 11:29:22 AM EST
The human mind. If you don't have the mindset you're just foddder.
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 11:47:13 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/24/2004 11:57:42 AM EST by tfod]
The Marine Officer's sword is the oldest weapon still in use.

The Marine NCO sword is the oldest continuous use weapon because the Marmeluke sword was exchanged for the sword that became the NCO sword.

Marine swords are weapons. A “manual of arms” does exist for them. Normally (for weapon use) they only cut cake, and slap brides' asses.

a. History of the Sword: After the Barbary Pirates War, Marine officers started carrying the Mameluke Sword. In 1858, the Marine Corps discontinued the Mameluke sword and adopted the 1858 Cavalry Sword. However, this was not a popular decision and during the Civil War, officers reverted back to the Mameluke Sword. For centuries, the sword has been a symbol of leadership and authority. But it had always been an officer’s weapon. When the Commandant gave the Mameluke Sword back to the officers, he decided to present the 1858 Cavalry Sword (to become known as the NCO Sword) to Marine NCO’s in recognition of the part they play in leading Marines in combat. Although the Mameluke Sword in the oldest weapon in the United States arsenal, the NCO Sword is the oldest weapon in continuous use since the Mameluke Sword was out of use for a few years during the beginning of the Civil War. The Marine Corps remains the only US service that has presented their NCO’s with this symbol of authority and leadership. www.pendleton.usmc.mil/schools/corporals/SH/0103.htm

Link Posted: 10/24/2004 12:19:20 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/24/2004 12:26:59 PM EST by dport]

Originally Posted By J_Smith:
Ha Ha very funny.........technically we still are the military - tell that to all the Coasties currently in the Gulf - and there are a lot. Or the DC3 who got killed boarding a suspected Iraqi vessel with TACLET South and blew up in the subsequent bomb blast of Al Queda terrorists. Mostly DHS missions - its not DHLS - and still military too ( since 1790 for those needing a refresher of history).



Actually, me and my team were trained by the now defunct TACLET North. I served with teams from North, South and Pac. I was on scene after the FIREBOLT RHIB was hit in a matter of hours. Pretty good accomplishment since we were in the wrong part of the Gulf preparing for another mission altogether.

I've pulled homeland security missions stateside under USCG command while white-hulls were pierside because they had too many operating hours for the month.

My good-natured rivalry with the USCG comes from working so closely with them performing the same mission with less resources and knowing the Navy is footing the bill for the USCG while I have problems getting enough TP.

My question is why does everyone hate the USCGC ADAK?

And while the USCG did lose a DC3, their first combat loss since Vietnam, the Navy lost two petty officers in the same incident. (Not the first losses the Navy experienced enforcing the waters around Iraq) Had the scheduling been different, we would have been there in FIREBOLT's place and I or my crew could have very well been attempting to board the same vessel with the TACLET we had onboard.

Link Posted: 10/24/2004 12:23:33 PM EST
Ma Deuce...not question about it. I'll bet the M-16 is number two now.
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 12:24:58 PM EST
A knife / blade in one form or another



But my favorite is a rock.
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 12:25:24 PM EST
M 1911 to 1985
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 12:25:38 PM EST

Originally Posted By dport:

Originally Posted By J_Smith:
Ha Ha very funny.........technically we still are the military - tell that to all the Coasties currently in the Gulf - and there are a lot. Or the DC3 who got killed boarding a suspected Iraqi vessel with TACLET South and blew up in the subsequent bomb blast of Al Queda terrorists. Mostly DHS missions - its not DHLS - and still military too ( since 1790 for those needing a refresher of history).



Actually, me and my team were trained by the now defunct TACLET North. I served with teams from North, South and Pac. I was on scene after the FIREBOLT RHIB was hit in a matter of hours. Pretty good accomplishment since we were in the wrong part of the Gulf preparing for another mission altogether.

I've pulled homeland security missions stateside under USCG command while white-hulls were pierside because they had too many operating hours for the month.

My good-natured rivalry with the USCG comes from working so closely with them performing the same mission with less resources and knowing the Navy is footing the bill for the USCG while I have problems getting enough TP.

My question is why does everyone hate the USCGC ADAK?




As far as I know, TACLET North still exists (much smaller)- I thought they all had merged with MSST 91102 but I guess that is not the case after all. (This is all over at Freds Place - so no OPSEC concerns here). No idea what is up with the USCGC ADAK - don't know. I came over from the Army to the Coast Guard so I am not too familiar with the large boats - just the small RBHS and TPSB I've been on. Thanks for your ongoing service BTW.
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 12:26:33 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/24/2004 12:27:34 PM EST by AR15fan]
Small Pox or the .45-70 Cartridge.
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 12:28:05 PM EST

Originally Posted By five-star:
M 1911 to 1985



Nope, take a look at page one. The 1911 still keeps on ticking.


Several special operations units carry the M1911 in various forms.

Link Posted: 10/24/2004 12:28:49 PM EST
M2, 1925 to Present ..
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 12:30:19 PM EST
The STICK
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 12:31:57 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/24/2004 12:32:45 PM EST by Daytona955i]
FIRE
Link Posted: 10/24/2004 12:32:52 PM EST

Originally Posted By J_Smith:
As far as I know, TACLET North still exists (much smaller)- I thought they all had merged with MSST 91102 but I guess that is not the case after all. (This is all over at Freds Place - so no OPSEC concerns here). No idea what is up with the USCGC ADAK - don't know. I came over from the Army to the Coast Guard so I am not too familiar with the large boats - just the small RBHS and TPSB I've been on. Thanks for your ongoing service BTW.



No one liked ADAK for some reason, even the Coasties. I knew people who I liked before they crew-up for ADAK and then they didn't perform like they used to.

We had a TACLET North team onboard when the higher ups were reconfiguring the team. I know what the concept for them was, but I'm not sure what their status is. I do know the same team trained one of our teams this summer.
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