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Posted: 9/22/2011 11:07:36 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/29/2011 9:05:07 PM EST by Reservist]
I want some cardio equipment for the house all I have is free weights. I've got knee problems so I need something that has 0 impact so I was looking at rowing machines. From what I understand the best one on the market is the C2 Rower.

Whats your take on rowing machines?

Update: It came in today and it took me about 10 minutes to get it set up. Man what a great looking piece of equipment. I immediately jumped on it and knocked out a 500 meter just to try it out. It was hard to get used to but before I finished I had it down pat. Tonight before dinner I did a 1000meter on the level 5 difficulty I guess 3 is what is recommended. After dinner I knocked out another 1000 meter but this time on 3 for the resistance setting. I love this thing what a great workout!
Link Posted: 9/22/2011 11:09:44 AM EST
I've owned the same inflatable raft since the mid-80's. Does the job quite well.
Link Posted: 9/22/2011 11:10:25 AM EST
A proper erg is the best exercise you can do indoors on a single machine.

All benefits and imitations are pretty much covered in that statement. Buy accordingly.
Link Posted: 9/22/2011 11:17:49 AM EST
What about buying new vs. used when it comes to buying a rowing machine?
Link Posted: 9/22/2011 11:19:02 AM EST
Originally Posted By Reservist:
What about buying new vs. used when it comes to buying a rowing machine?


Quality is more important that how many miles are on it.
A good machine will far outlast anything a single person can do to it. It takes a gym to wear out gym-quality gear.
Link Posted: 9/22/2011 11:19:52 AM EST
When I was in College and I was working for a moving company we used to call rowing machines, treadmills, and the stationary bikes.... clothes hangers.

Link Posted: 9/22/2011 11:19:54 AM EST
Originally Posted By Reservist:
What about buying new vs. used when it comes to buying a rowing machine?


A C2 Concept can take abuse, serious abuse and use. If you can find a used one priced well, go for it.

They are great machines.

Link Posted: 9/22/2011 11:22:36 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/22/2011 11:22:59 AM EST by INI]
I have a C2 rower, and it's awesome, just go easy at first or you'll soon find out why it's also called the Mid-evil2.
I think RustedAce has one as well.

ETA: tough to find used.
Link Posted: 9/22/2011 11:28:00 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/22/2011 11:28:19 AM EST by Aimless]
Link Posted: 9/22/2011 11:32:15 AM EST

Originally Posted By Aimless:
I have a c2 rower, boy are they not for fat guys trying to get back into shape, shiiiiiiiit! Fucking torture device that's what it is. Not sure how it would be if you have bad knees, no weight on the knees but lots of bending of the knees

I want one bad. I'm on the brink of becoming an out of shape fat guy... I try to run when I can but it hurts so mostly I have just been drinking beer and lifting free weights and I don't like what's happening to me I need something to help me burn fat.

I want the C2 bad... I have the money for it right now I'm just having hesitance to FO even though I know I'm going to eventually buy it anyway.
Link Posted: 9/22/2011 11:36:30 AM EST
If I had to pick one machine for cardio it would be the C2. I HATE the fucken thing, but it will give you a killer workout.
Intervals, tabatas, longer rows. So much you can do with it and you get an upper body/back workout too.

WELL worth the cash if you use it regularly.
Link Posted: 9/22/2011 11:37:00 AM EST
Awesome machines.

LOW impact, BIG return
Link Posted: 9/22/2011 11:48:44 AM EST
Get the butt pad or sit on some bubble wrap.
Link Posted: 9/22/2011 11:51:17 AM EST
Get a C2, then participate in the challenges.

Link Posted: 9/22/2011 12:12:40 PM EST
I own a Concept model B. I think they are up to D or E now. Same basic design, they just update the electronics.

I lift weights too, and use the Concept for cardio. It makes treadmills, and other stuff look girlie. It works just about everything.

I got mine off Craigslist. You might check there or ebay for one used. New out of the box they are pricey.
Link Posted: 9/22/2011 12:15:56 PM EST
Originally Posted By INI:
I have a C2 rower, and it's awesome, just go easy at first or you'll soon find out why it's also called the Mid-evil2.
I think RustedAce has one as well.

ETA: tough to find used.


It took me about 6 months to find mine local and used. I think I paid 400 bucks for it. These days, I think I saw the new ones going for 1800.
Link Posted: 9/22/2011 12:25:36 PM EST

Originally Posted By 338winmag:
Originally Posted By INI:
I have a C2 rower, and it's awesome, just go easy at first or you'll soon find out why it's also called the Mid-evil2.
I think RustedAce has one as well.

ETA: tough to find used.


It took me about 6 months to find mine local and used. I think I paid 400 bucks for it. These days, I think I saw the new ones going for 1800.

They are 900 before shipping

Link Posted: 9/23/2011 10:45:33 AM EST
I ordered the C2 ROWER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Final price after shipping and taxes was 889.00
Link Posted: 9/23/2011 10:58:05 AM EST
It's humbling whenever you go to use it because you know you are gonna get your ass kicked.

I usually mumble something like "fuck me" or "shit not this again" every time.



But it's an awesome workout.
Link Posted: 9/29/2011 9:05:23 PM EST
update in op
Link Posted: 9/29/2011 9:32:41 PM EST
It can be a good combination of cardio and muscle exercise. Realy good at reaking the boredom of running, stairclimber. whatever else you might do for cardio. Works especially well with interval training.
Link Posted: 9/29/2011 9:46:53 PM EST
Used to row competitively. Make SURE you are using the proper stroke. If you are in decent shape a 2:05 500/m split at about 22-24 strokes per minutes should be good. The key is explosive legs. You want a low SPM and a low split. A good goal is a 500/m split uner 2 minutes for 6k.

A standard workout for me would often be a 10k. Sprints were 2k and 6k was a yardstick workout.

Good lord, I wish I was in that kind of shape again!
Link Posted: 9/29/2011 9:52:59 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/29/2011 11:24:22 PM EST by RifleCal30m1n00b]
Originally Posted By retgarr:
Used to row competitively. Make SURE you are using the proper stroke. If you are in decent shape a 2:05 500/m split at about 22-24 strokes per minutes should be good. The key is explosive legs. You want a low SPM and a low split. A good goal is a 500/m split uner 2 minutes for 6k.

A standard workout for me would often be a 10k. Sprints were 2k and 6k was a yardstick workout.

Good lord, I wish I was in that kind of shape again!


This.

Except I did it in HS, as a Lightweight-category Junior (5'10" and ~135-140), so I was lucky to get under 1:45-1:50/500 split on a 2k test...IIRC. ETA: my memory is vague, it's been a very long time...and I apparently can't multiply anymore, either

2k was our spring-season test (same distance as the sprint regattas), and a 4:3:2:1:2:3:4 pyramid workout was a decent warmup.

I miss those days, kinda. LBJC!

Remember: explosive drive, smooth and slow recovery. Legs-back-arms on the drive, arms-back-legs on the recovery....over and over and over.



Concept2 is, in my experience, THE benchmark of ergs. Good buy.


Edit to fix my math problems...2:20/500 on a 2k....sheesh! on a 6k, maybe. I wasn't that slow at the 2k...just not Olympian fast, either. I did break 8mins/2k on the machines long before I finished HS. Don't think I ever managed to break much below 7:30 though...
Link Posted: 9/29/2011 10:18:51 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/29/2011 10:21:07 PM EST by retgarr]
Whoops, forgot to factor in weight!

At my peak I was just a tad under 2min and 5'11'' lightweight at 160

Also, for a real rowing workout you need a screaming midget with a napoleon complex.
Link Posted: 9/29/2011 11:21:29 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/29/2011 11:25:13 PM EST by RifleCal30m1n00b]
Originally Posted By retgarr:
Whoops, forgot to factor in weight!

At my peak I was just a tad under 2min and 5'11'' lightweight at 160

Also, for a real rowing workout you need a screaming midget with a napoleon complex.


Don't worry. I forgot to do math. I used (ETA: a slow) 6k for my 2k...
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 12:15:28 AM EST
I used to be pretty un-athletic. I sank a rowing machine, once.

Gym I go to now doesn't have them. (Wonder why, actually...)
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 3:24:19 AM EST
Originally Posted By retgarr:
Whoops, forgot to factor in weight!

At my peak I was just a tad under 2min and 5'11'' lightweight at 160

Also, for a real rowing workout you need a screaming midget with a napoleon complex.


Fuck you! You tall peice of shit! Now give me a 10 stroke 1/2 stroke start and a power 20 following.



I broke my hand early in my only season rowing competetively and because I was about 135 lbs, got to cox. sigh... I have my own scull, but never use it anymore. Alden 26, all carbon, with carbon Concept2 smoothie oars.
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 10:23:08 AM EST

Originally Posted By retgarr:
Whoops, forgot to factor in weight!

At my peak I was just a tad under 2min and 5'11'' lightweight at 160

Also, for a real rowing workout you need a screaming midget with a napoleon complex.

heh I'm 6,1 about 220lbs haha.
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 10:26:13 AM EST

Originally Posted By Reservist:

Originally Posted By retgarr:
Whoops, forgot to factor in weight!

At my peak I was just a tad under 2min and 5'11'' lightweight at 160

Also, for a real rowing workout you need a screaming midget with a napoleon complex.

heh I'm 6,1 about 220lbs haha.


You tall guys are lucky bastards when it comes to rowing...at 5'9" I feel like I'm going to die rowing a pace you guys could keep for a 6k!
I got you guys beat on squats though

Good buy, enjoy it!
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 1:46:12 PM EST
Originally Posted By phatmax:
Originally Posted By retgarr:
Whoops, forgot to factor in weight!

At my peak I was just a tad under 2min and 5'11'' lightweight at 160

Also, for a real rowing workout you need a screaming midget with a napoleon complex.


Fuck you! You tall peice of shit! Now give me a 10 stroke 1/2 stroke start and a power 20 following.



I broke my hand early in my only season rowing competetively and because I was about 135 lbs, got to cox. sigh... I have my own scull, but never use it anymore. Alden 26, all carbon, with carbon Concept2 smoothie oars.


Not my fault you take so long to get going.

QUARTER, QUARTER, HALF, FULL!
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