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Posted: 12/13/2013 6:31:19 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/13/2013 6:35:45 AM EDT by S_A_C]
Well as I mentioned in another thread, I'm thinking about going back to school for a career change, and that is one of the possible directions that I was looking at, but before I do I want to make sure it's not a financial mistake, especially if I end up needing student loans to pay for it.  (Michigan apparently insists on police having at least an associates degree)

It's something I think I might enjoy, but not if it's a financial blunder.

So what is the average pay for police?
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 6:34:59 AM EDT
Varies widely from poverty-level to 'holy shit, really?... where do I apply?'

Also, one of the hardest lines of work to get a good fulltime spot.
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 6:37:27 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By OiRogers:
Varies widely from poverty-level to 'holy shit, really?... where do I apply?'

Also, one of the hardest lines of work to get a good fulltime spot.
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+1

I looked at that field 4 years ago.  Competitive starting pay in FL was around $40K ($38K if I remember).  I understand that small town PDs have much lower starting salaries.
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 6:37:59 AM EDT
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Varies widely from poverty-level to 'holy shit, really?... where do I apply?'

Also, one of the hardest lines of work to get a good fulltime spot.
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This really is your answer.  There are probably few jobs where the pay scale ranges so widely.  That said, you will never get rich doing it.

It ranges wildly even in the same state.  If you're in rural southeast Ohio, you might was well go work for McDonald's for what you'll make.  If you're in one of the bigger cities in Ohio, you're probably looking at about $50k-ish after you top out in the step program after several years (starting will probably be around $40k).
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 6:38:32 AM EDT
Here in New England there are some departments that start out at anywhere from $16hr to $80k
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 6:40:44 AM EDT
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65 a year starting pay? Trolling?
Must be up north.
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 6:41:32 AM EDT
My buddy if a little over five years in.

Thornton PD earned 80k. Associates degrees.
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 6:46:01 AM EDT
I worked in a 100+ officer department, our patrolman made more than the SGT in the Boro next door, my SIL works in a 40+ officer inthe next county and as a patrolman he makes more than our SGTs.  So it is very dept specific
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 6:47:49 AM EDT
Join NYPD, live in Suburbs and commute.  Relax...you're a cop so none of the bs laws apply to you.
Work lots of hours and do your time in the worst neighborhoods the Country has to offer (Relax, you'll actually miss the time spent in the projects later in your career when you are bored ).
Take tests for Suffolk PD and Nassau PD


After 6-8 years, you will become detective and be out of uniform, or at the least you will be a Sgt.  In both cases you will be making right in the 100K-150K depending on a few circumstances.

right around this time, Nassau and Suffolk will call you.  In either case, you will make right in the 60k-80k range right out of the box depending.  Plus...you will get a fat check from NYPD for all your unused sick/personal/vacation time.

Year two in Nasau or Suffolk you will make over a 100k per year.
Year 5 you are in the 150k-200k range.

15 years on you have scaled back the hours you work, take lots of vacation time and start planning for retirement (You really don't need the money at this point).

Or....just stay in the NYPD and finish your career there.
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 6:48:15 AM EDT
Around here they pay shit... like assistant manager at Arby's kinda money.

There's hundreds of applicants for every open job.  Kids very often pay their own way through the academy to get hired on.

Makes no fucking sense to me at all.  
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 6:49:37 AM EDT
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Starting pay for Douglas county DEPUTY SHERIFF I = $85,000

Sheriff = appox. $200K

Douglas County Salaries

That's pretty good pay for here....

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Police Sargent in LV  = $200K
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 6:49:48 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By scottzilla:
Join NYPD, live in Suburbs and commute.  Relax...you're a cop so none of the bs laws apply to you.
Work lots of hours and do your time in the worst neighborhoods the Country has to offer (Relax, you'll actually miss the time spent in the projects later in your career when you are bored ).
Take tests for Suffolk PD and Nassau PD


After 6-8 years, you will become detective and be out of uniform, or at the least you will be a Sgt.  In both cases you will be making right in the 100K-150K depending on a few circumstances.

right around this time, Nassau and Suffolk will call you.  In either case, you will make right in the 60k-80k range right out of the box depending.  Plus...you will get a fat check from NYPD for all your unused sick/personal/vacation time.

Year two in Nasau or Suffolk you will make over a 100k per year.
Year 5 you are in the 150k-200k range.


15 years on you have scaled back the hours you work, take lots of vacation time and start planning for retirement (You really don't need the money at this point).

Or....just stay in the NYPD and finish your career there.
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Came here to post that. Grew up on Long Island.
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 6:50:05 AM EDT
We have PDs in the area that pay their guys $9 an hour and you have to supply all of your own equipment.  Most of the officers at these departments have had issues somewhere else and you really do not want to work there for long if you take the job just starting out.  Shitty departments in shitty areas with shitty you get what you pay for cops.  

On the other side there are agencies that pay mid $40Ks starting and it goes up from there.  These are very hard to get onto and are good agencies.  

The tiny place I work for part time starts the full timers with experience out at just under $40K and with the workload there it is good money.  

The St Louis area is very diverse as to the quality of officer and the pay they get.
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 6:50:36 AM EDT
I only have a few more months until my summer home on the Riviera is paid for...
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 6:52:09 AM EDT
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Big city or small town?

Cost of living varies widely.  BTW......in HI we were paid in sun shine.

Aloha, Mark
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 6:53:38 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By scottzilla:
Join NYPD, live in Suburbs and commute.  Relax...you're a cop so none of the bs laws apply to you.
Work lots of hours and do your time in the worst neighborhoods the Country has to offer (Relax, you'll actually miss the time spent in the projects later in your career when you are bored ).
Take tests for Suffolk PD and Nassau PD


After 6-8 years, you will become detective and be out of uniform, or at the least you will be a Sgt.  In both cases you will be making right in the 100K-150K depending on a few circumstances.

right around this time, Nassau and Suffolk will call you.  In either case, you will make right in the 60k-80k range right out of the box depending.  Plus...you will get a fat check from NYPD for all your unused sick/personal/vacation time.

Year two in Nasau or Suffolk you will make over a 100k per year.
Year 5 you are in the 150k-200k range.

15 years on you have scaled back the hours you work, take lots of vacation time and start planning for retirement (You really don't need the money at this point).

Or....just stay in the NYPD and finish your career there.
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You forgot, "get injured" a couple years before you are set to retire, then do lots of OT and get a disability pension.
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 6:54:55 AM EDT
Where I live in Prescott AZ, the salary range for Prescott Police Officers is $42,660—$60,736.

http://www.cityofprescott.net/services/police/recruitment.php
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 6:59:34 AM EDT
Around here the starting pay is around 29k for the sheriff's dept and 30k for the city police.
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 7:00:27 AM EDT
Weekly before taxes......

Probationary Patrol Officer 750.64
Patrol Officer Third Class 962.52
Patrol Officer Second Class 1,071.02
Patrol Officer First Class 1,209.99

14 paid holidays

After 5 years they get a longevity payment of 8.5% which increases to 13.5% at 24 years.

Average patrolman with 5 years on at my shop makes 75K.

Plus we have all the overtime you could ever wish to do. Personally I have made 20K just in OT this year.

Link Posted: 12/13/2013 7:00:56 AM EDT
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You forgot, "get injured" a couple years before you are set to retire, then do lots of OT and get a disability pension.
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As a high school kid, I worked a summer for my dad's friend that was a "disabled" Battalion Commander on the Fire Dept. He was out on a Medical for his back and now the owner a bunch of apartment buildings. We spent a lot time building fences. He was digging post holes, carrying lumber, bricks, full bags of cement, etc. all day. Story was he couldn't carry a #200 man out of burning building.

Why would a Battalion Commander be in a burning building? Isn't he supposed to be the guy calling the shots?
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 7:01:21 AM EDT
Are we taking into account bribes and kickbacks?

Link Posted: 12/13/2013 7:05:09 AM EDT
Of coarse i wouldnt recommend living there but in NYC a NYPD officer starts at 38k and after about 5 years they bump up to about 89k.

Good paying job in a fascist shit hole. Im a Ex New Yorker.

Im also on the military differment list for the Pennsylvania State Police. Should be beginning that process in 2017
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 7:10:20 AM EDT
It varies widely, even in th same geographical area. Anywhere from 12 bucks an hour to over 100k a year here in SE PA. Before overtime incentives and benefits.  Very hard to get one of the good jobs. Also need to consider cost of living in the areas you're looking.
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 7:12:00 AM EDT
I make just enough to not qualify for government "assistance."



Our old chief also prohibited us from working a second job, because he said it would look to the community that the city didn't pay its officers enough to live on. Um, yeah, that's kinda true, bossman.
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 7:15:07 AM EDT
Where I work the fun overtime details are assigned on a by rank basis, so the Captains make around $130,000 a year and patrol officers with 4 or 5 years on make about $50,000.



Link Posted: 12/13/2013 7:17:36 AM EDT
My base pay is 65k.  Lots of suburbs near me pay similar. We have one patrolman who work a shit ton of overtime and will gross around 105k.  I think Cleveland PD is around 50k but most guys work a security gig on the side.  Suburbs will almost always pay better and be easier on your health in the long run.
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 7:18:41 AM EDT
There is a website called "Transparentnevada.com" which show the base salary plus overtime plus other plus benefits.   Look up North Las Vegas.    One police office (not the chief or captain) had a base of $270,000 and a total $360,000.     Lots of PO over $200k per year.
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 7:18:58 AM EDT
I think it should be noted that a lot of the high-paying systems have some sort of civil-service component. In those being a disabled-vet might make you a virtual shoe-in if you do well on the test and have no red-flags......but having tons of education and a perfect record are meaningless if you don't have vet preference. Residency restrictions can make a big deal as well. I have a friend who fits in the non-vet group and has had no luck for 5 years, other friends who ARE vets get hired quickly.
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 7:21:21 AM EDT
S.S is an option here.
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 7:24:23 AM EDT
The HOT cop I dated last year (20 years exp) went from having a 55K job locally to moving back "home" to one of the most dangerous cities in America for gang crime and "starting over".  He is now making about $30K.
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 7:25:27 AM EDT
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+1

I looked at that field 4 years ago.  Competitive starting pay in FL was around $40K ($38K if I remember).  I understand that small town PDs have much lower starting salaries.
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Originally Posted By OiRogers:
Varies widely from poverty-level to 'holy shit, really?... where do I apply?'

Also, one of the hardest lines of work to get a good fulltime spot.

+1

I looked at that field 4 years ago.  Competitive starting pay in FL was around $40K ($38K if I remember).  I understand that small town PDs have much lower starting salaries.


Minneapolis Metro and Hennepin County Sheriff's Dept start out just shy of 60k/year.

Outside the larger cities and suburbs, the pay drops off pretty dramatically for the amount of shit you've got to put up with. You'd think that the things that suburb police and small town have to deal with are childs play compared to a metro department, but trust me, they're EXACTLY the same shit, you just have less backup and more people willing to shoot you with a deer rifle because they can get away with it.

A domestic call involving weapons out in the back ninety of assgrab and backup is no less than thirty minutes away gives you a whole new perspective on what abject terrifying pucker level fear is all about.

That said, the small town departments are *WAY* easier to get into than the big ones, and they should be used to get "Your Foot In the Door" so to speak. The hardest part of being a police officer is getting a job as a cop. Literally, getting the job with the Federal Government that I have now, and dealing with all the insane bureaucracy needed to get in here was fucking child's play compared to what I went through getting the job as a police officer.
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 7:38:06 AM EDT
OP honest question, take no offense...

If you were having issues with college in that other thread... What makes you think police work is right for you?
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 7:39:27 AM EDT
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Around here, full timers start at roughly +/- 35K a year.





Part timers may only clear $10-$12 an hour.



West side of the state.

Link Posted: 12/13/2013 7:41:01 AM EDT
Around here, city PD starts at about 32K, University PD starts at about 37K and I think Sheriff's office makes a bit more, but likely has a lot wider area to cover.
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 7:41:32 AM EDT
Depends on the region of the country bro. In the northeast, you can make bank. Here in the south, fat chance. I started in 1999 for a SO in corrections, moved to patrol, worked my way into K9 where I eventually made Sergeant. Retired my dog, and moved into investigations where I currently hold the rank of Lieutenant. I've also been on SWAT since 2005 and our Honor Guard since 2007.  So. Definitely not one of the "collect a check" guys. Having said that, my take home every two weeks is right around $1400. I have to work a secondary security gig at a machine shop in a shitty part of town to have a bit of a cushion. My GF, soon to be fiancée, is a dispatcher at the local PD and while a certified LEO, with a kid now, she doesn't want to go back to working the streets.



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Link Posted: 12/13/2013 7:42:25 AM EDT
There is no "average". You could be making 10 bucks an hour in some places to 100K plus like Extorris did
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 7:45:36 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By macman37:
OP honest question, take no offense...

If you were having issues with college in that other thread... What makes you think police work is right for you?
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My issue in the other thread were with the prospect of a mandatory unknown roommate whom I have no say in selecting.  And having to potentially put up with liberal professors who would happily fail me for having independent thought (No sir, I will not do a report on how the U.S. is evil, or how global warming is real, or how socialism somehow works, and is the solution to all problems, or how gun control is a good idea.  Think that will go over well with the tenured noam chompsky like "professors?").
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 7:54:36 AM EDT
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My issue in the other thread were with the prospect of a mandatory unknown roommate whom I have no say in selecting.  And having to potentially put up with liberal professors who would happily fail me for having independent thought (No sir, I will not do a report on how the U.S. is evil, or how global warming is real, or how socialism somehow works, and is the solution to all problems, or how gun control is a good idea.  Think that will go over well with the tenured noam chompsky like "professors?").
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Originally Posted By macman37:
OP honest question, take no offense...

If you were having issues with college in that other thread... What makes you think police work is right for you?


My issue in the other thread were with the prospect of a mandatory unknown roommate whom I have no say in selecting.  And having to potentially put up with liberal professors who would happily fail me for having independent thought (No sir, I will not do a report on how the U.S. is evil, or how global warming is real, or how socialism somehow works, and is the solution to all problems, or how gun control is a good idea.  Think that will go over well with the tenured noam chompsky like "professors?").


Well if you're going to try to be a police officer, they're exactly who you have to deal with on a daily basis because they represent your boss, the mayor, the city council, and the people you're tasked to serve. My FTO was rabidly antigun, and would merrily spout how he thought that we the police should be the only ones with guns because people can't be trusted. He's also teh same fuckwit that talked shit to me because I started, in his words, "Talking Mexican to those assholes," when I was talking to a bunch of kids about where the bad black guy went. (They knew exactly and told me specifically which house the guy was holed up in. Kids know fucking everything, see everything, and catalog it all in the great kid knowledge base, and they can't wait to talk to the nice police officer. Remember this lesson well.)

My first FTO was about the stupidest shitbird I've ever seen. He was "That Guy." All police know "That Guy." He's the one that takes a currently in-control situation and turns it into a riot where you get hit with a bottle in the nuts, because of all the rest of you that's covered in armor that bottle could hit, it nails you right in the dick. Yeah, your penis being hurt is his fault.

And the teachers and professors in school are *EXACTLY* those same people. So if you want to be a cop, you're going to take your stick, shit end, one each, smile like a happy retard, and parrot their bullshit to get your A grade, and move on with your life.
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My issue in the other thread were with the prospect of a mandatory unknown roommate whom I have no say in selecting.  And having to potentially put up with liberal professors who would happily fail me for having independent thought (No sir, I will not do a report on how the U.S. is evil, or how global warming is real, or how socialism somehow works, and is the solution to all problems, or how gun control is a good idea.  Think that will go over well with the tenured noam chompsky like "professors?").
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Originally Posted By macman37:
OP honest question, take no offense...

If you were having issues with college in that other thread... What makes you think police work is right for you?


My issue in the other thread were with the prospect of a mandatory unknown roommate whom I have no say in selecting.  And having to potentially put up with liberal professors who would happily fail me for having independent thought (No sir, I will not do a report on how the U.S. is evil, or how global warming is real, or how socialism somehow works, and is the solution to all problems, or how gun control is a good idea.  Think that will go over well with the tenured noam chompsky like "professors?").


Don't go to college.
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 7:58:03 AM EDT
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 8:00:36 AM EDT
My buddy is retired pulling in 65k

Top 3 years averaged and divided by 2 is how they get your retirement pay here.
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 8:01:43 AM EDT
Municipal cops in central PA about $35k-40k starting out. Sheriffs deputy's around Gettysburg, only $13 an hour, next county over $17 per hour. PA State Police start at over 58k.
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 8:06:54 AM EDT
I can't say what MI pays....
But,  I have 3 brothers that are Cops in NJ

They all make about $90.000 Annual.

One of them is a Trooper and does a little over $100,000 annual.

Link Posted: 12/13/2013 8:13:21 AM EDT
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I can't say what MI pays....
But,  I have 3 brothers that are Cops in NJ

They all make about $90.000 Annual.

One of them is a Trooper and does a little over $100,000 annual.

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Does the 6 figure require a lot of O.T. ? How long has he been on the force?
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 8:14:24 AM EDT
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I am currently looking at becoming a LEO in Northern VA.


For a patrol officer it is around 55,000 after you factor in all the overtime.



Due to the income disparities around here many of the officers live in surrounding counties that are further to the south and west where property is cheaper.
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 8:17:13 AM EDT
My highway patrol buddies make around $100k here in nor-cal. My buddy that is SWAT commander makes $130k-plus depending on OT.

Either way, that is about bare minimum to survive on around here.  My highway patrol buddy has twins and a stay at home wife.  Cash is tight for them. He made a lot more as a mortgage broker, but hated the work.  He's the craziest bastard I know.  You would NOT want to get on his bad side.  

Some of my best friends are officers.  It takes a special personality to make it work for you.  They are great guys, but I wouldnt' want to be on any of their bad sides.  It takes some of that attitude to deal with people that hate you everyday.  Officers are rarely popular with the public.
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 8:19:28 AM EDT
I have a few friends that are Rio Rancho PD and I believe they started at around $20.00 with a raise every 6 months.
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 8:19:52 AM EDT
FWIW...  I've seen some video footage of my buddies in action.  One was from a convenience store.  My plain clothes detective friend absolutely took a guy down with a clothesline and then put a real beating on him for resisting. Another was a HP buddy taking a guy down from a chain link fence with his taser.  

Both were totally justified and both guys loved every minute of it.
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 8:20:02 AM EDT
When I looked into being a cop. they started around $30K. Then you read about NYC cops making $100k.
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 8:21:43 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By mbdolfin:
I can't say what MI pays....
But,  I have 3 brothers that are Cops in NJ

They all make about $90.000 Annual.

One of them is a Trooper and does a little over $100,000 annual.




Does the 6 figure require a lot of O.T. ? How long has he been on the force?


Keith has been a Trooper for about 12 years if my memory is correct.
I know he does work OT once in a while.
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 8:27:07 AM EDT
Occupational Employment and Wages, May 2012
33-3051 Police and Sheriff's Patrol Officers

Employment - 632,000
Mean hourly wage - $27.78
Mean annual wage - $57,770

http://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes333051.htm


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