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Posted: 10/12/2007 4:16:51 PM EST
I found out tonight that trying to hold a flashlight & shotgun at the same time is next to impossible.

It has to be at or below $200. Shotgun is a 12 gauge if that matters.

Thanks for the help.
Link Posted: 10/12/2007 4:21:47 PM EST
Try to find a used Surefire flashlight forearm. They are the best solution. I haven't bought one in while but I am sure they over $200 new, so go used. Surefire has a lifetime warranty.
Link Posted: 10/12/2007 4:30:53 PM EST
+1 on the Surrefire. They are tops on quality. They are a bit pricey though.

If you are looking for a more affordable route then get a new forend (I've seen one but cannot recall the manufacturer) that has rails on it and buy a inexpensive 1" scope ring and put a Surefire G2 LED in it.

G2 LED - about $50-56
You can get inexpensive rings forabout $7-10
I don't recall the price of the forend
Link Posted: 10/12/2007 4:32:18 PM EST
I prefer pentagon lights rather than surefire, but I dont use them for work. THe only use my gun mounted lights see are couch commando action while watching FMJ or 300, or The Proffesional, or whatever else... Oh yes, and that poor unfortunate opossum that me his maker the other night..

Laser Devices makes a neat light too.

How are you mounting it. I tried the el cheapo polymer railed handguard on my mossy500 with the light and forward grip and the rail broke the in the first 3 shots from impact alone.. So now its back to stock.

If possums were terrorist I would have medals of honor.
Link Posted: 10/12/2007 4:34:44 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/12/2007 4:36:35 PM EST by Spartanatheart]
I had planned on getting something like this that mounts to the magazine tube.

www.cheaperthandirt.com/LIGHT121-20881-2202.html

Is this light any good? I just would be using the switch that you push once & it says on until you push it again.
Link Posted: 10/12/2007 4:36:24 PM EST
If you're going the rail route, Streamlight's TLR-1 is one heck of a nice weapon light - Bright, easy on batteries, very rugged, and not too pricey (roughly $100 on ebay).

Link Posted: 10/12/2007 4:37:53 PM EST
Save up the money and get a Surefire 618 forend. They are easily the best option for the shotgun.
Link Posted: 10/12/2007 4:38:00 PM EST
That should do the job as well as anything else. One t hing I would do though is take it off for practice just in case the lamp isn't very shock resistant.

I think it will get the job done for you.

I have an old Tacstar set up laying around that is very similar. I used to keep it in my gear bag at work and it was fine.
Link Posted: 10/12/2007 4:38:20 PM EST

Originally Posted By Skibane:
If you're going the rail route, Streamlight's TLR-1 is one heck of a nice weapon light - Bright, easy on batteries, very rugged, and not too pricey (roughly $100 on ebay).

www.streamlight.com/images/products/tlr1_full.jpg


+1 Great light! You can also get a specialized tail cap to use a coiled cord pressure switch with it.
Link Posted: 10/12/2007 4:39:32 PM EST

Originally Posted By Skibane:
If you're going the rail route, Streamlight's TLR-1 is one heck of a nice weapon light - Bright, easy on batteries, very rugged, and not too pricey (roughly $100 on ebay).

www.streamlight.com/images/products/tlr1_full.jpg


I have a link for these for $85 on my home computer. They are nice and I plan on ordering one for my Springfield Operator.
Link Posted: 10/12/2007 4:40:30 PM EST
Is this the type of forend with rail that you are talking about?

www.cheaperthandirt.com/SHT062-19825-2166.html
Link Posted: 10/12/2007 4:45:27 PM EST

Originally Posted By Spartanatheart:
Is this the type of forend with rail that you are talking about?

www.cheaperthandirt.com/SHT062-19825-2166.html


That is not the exact one that i was thining of. The one that I saw had three rails on it- ine on each side.
Link Posted: 10/12/2007 4:46:22 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/12/2007 4:48:45 PM EST by packinheavy]
I think those are most likely the ones he was talking about(the one that broke). They are trying to sell them for $30 on Gunbroker. They do make some nice all metal rail ones that you use rail covers on. Kind of like a RAS set up that replaces the forearm.


Check this one out. You can probably find it cheaper elsewhere.


Railed Forearm on GB
Link Posted: 10/12/2007 4:54:30 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/12/2007 5:05:11 PM EST by Spartanatheart]
Why are all these lights & mounts so expensive? I can barely afford the $200.

EDIT: Packingheavy, if you find that $85 link, let me know please. That's probably what I'll get.

I would just be using it at distances of about 16'.
Link Posted: 10/12/2007 5:03:39 PM EST

Originally Posted By Spartanatheart:
Is this the type of forend with rail that you are talking about?

www.cheaperthandirt.com/SHT062-19825-2166.html


Yes. Not worth a wooden nickel.
Link Posted: 10/12/2007 5:08:19 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/12/2007 5:19:32 PM EST by Spartanatheart]
Well what is a good rail mount?

I didn't see any other's on CheaperThanDirt or SportsMansGuide. I don't plan on using any other devices besides the light.

EDIT: What about this mount?

www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/links/link.jsp?id=0006213710172a&type=product&cmCat=search&returnPage=search-results1.jsp&No=20&noImage=0&Ntt=870&Ntk=Products&QueryText=870&Ntx=matchall&N=4887&Nty=1
Link Posted: 10/12/2007 5:30:11 PM EST
You dont need a railed forend to mount a light. If you are totally opposed to the Surefire forend, buy a Streamlight TLR-1 and a small section of rail. Mount the rail to your standard forend, then attach the light. You'd be looking at a viable option with a cost of just over $100
Link Posted: 10/12/2007 5:35:26 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/12/2007 5:36:38 PM EST by all4freedom]
TLR-1 and one of these....

Search for "Streamlight 870 mount" on google or something. My dad has one on his special purpose 870 and it is very nice. Unscrew the magazine cap and put this on and screw the cap back on. You can be set up with a light for about $100ish and be good to go.

Link Posted: 10/12/2007 5:38:29 PM EST
What about this mount?

www.surefire.com/maxexp/main/co_disp/displ/carfnbr/312/prrfnbr/1127/Remington-870-Picatinny-Forend-

I've already decided on the TLR-1. Thanks for the help so far.
Link Posted: 10/12/2007 5:41:16 PM EST

Originally Posted By Spartanatheart:
What about this mount?

www.surefire.com/maxexp/main/co_disp/displ/carfnbr/312/prrfnbr/1127/Remington-870-Picatinny-Forend-

I've already decided on the TLR-1. Thanks for the help so far.


I think that forend looks like the most uncomfortable thing you could possibly mount on your gun. My .02.
Link Posted: 10/12/2007 5:57:50 PM EST
Bit of overkill for that Surefire railed forend. If you go that route, make sure you get some good rail covers to save your hands.
Link Posted: 10/12/2007 5:59:22 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/12/2007 6:00:52 PM EST by Spartanatheart]
This must be the mount your talking about.

www.opticsplanet.net/streamlight-rem-870-tactical-mount-69906.html

Seems like it would work. And it's within my budget. Is it durable?
Link Posted: 10/12/2007 6:04:54 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/12/2007 6:05:25 PM EST by Currahee]

Originally Posted By Spartanatheart:
What about this mount?

www.surefire.com/maxexp/main/co_disp/displ/carfnbr/312/prrfnbr/1127/Remington-870-Picatinny-Forend-

I've already decided on the TLR-1. Thanks for the help so far.


That and the TR1 would put you over your budget and into the dedicated foreend. Plus you are going to be uncomfortable as hell stroking the action (unless you put rail covers all around it which is even more money.) I would go with a short piece of picatiny rail screwed to ou foreend and a TR1 or just a G2 in a FOBUS mount.

I've got the dedicated TRI 870 mount that goes behind the magazine screw and it caught me in the hand once. It was off that afternoon.
Link Posted: 10/12/2007 6:08:09 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/12/2007 6:08:31 PM EST by Spartanatheart]
The TLR-1 & this mount* is only about $160. Is it the mount that cut your hand?



*www.opticsplanet.net/streamlight-rem-870-tactical-mount-69906.html
Link Posted: 10/12/2007 6:52:59 PM EST
I just google'd that 618 you mentioned. It looks well designed. Is it difficult to install?
Link Posted: 10/12/2007 6:55:07 PM EST

Originally Posted By Spartanatheart:
I just google'd that 618 you mentioned. It looks well designed. Is it difficult to install?


No. It comes with instructions. If you can remove your forend, you can install the 618
Link Posted: 10/12/2007 6:56:22 PM EST

Originally Posted By Spartanatheart:
I just google'd that 618 you mentioned. It looks well designed. Is it difficult to install?


It was mentioned early in the thread. It is the best option but costs about $250.
Link Posted: 10/12/2007 6:58:18 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/12/2007 6:59:06 PM EST by Currahee]

Originally Posted By NCPatrolAR:

Originally Posted By Currahee:
That's the rumor, but I have a few dozen rounds through a shotgun with the standard G2 on it, and hundreds through an AR. I keep testing it to see if I need the bezel...but so far no. If the Surefire went bad I would go back to the Brinkman Maxfire which has withstood more abuse (1K with an AR) and no issues.

But if the bezel makes you feel better go for it.

The only reason the shotgun hasn't been through more is because of the cut on the hand I mentioned.


The lights will typically hold up for a while with no problems if you arent using the bezel, but will eventually pop from recoil. On an AR, this isnt an issue and I dont run SI bezels on my rifles.

Also, it is important to remember weapon lights are built slightly different than handhelds. This is another reason I recommend the 618 for shotgun use.


I agree whole heartedly about the 618. I've got G2s on my ARs, but if I ever put a light on a shotgun again it will be the Surefire 618. But I'm going to wait until I get an SBS... as my 3 gun shotgun is a bit to long for home defense.
Link Posted: 10/12/2007 7:01:23 PM EST
As good as it looks & sounds, that will be the version I get. I'll have to save a bit more but better to get a good quality one now than to get a cheap one that breaks & then you have to get the good one anyway.

Thank you all for your help.
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