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Posted: 8/15/2007 8:23:38 AM EDT
I was at the local post office and found this in the parking lot. . .WTF is it, and what does it say?
Looks like some type of religious amulet. Muslim perhaps




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Link Posted: 8/15/2007 8:27:52 AM EDT
[#1]
It's a mosque hall-pass.

"Ok, Hakim. You can go to the bathroom, but THINK ABOUT THE INFINITE MERCY OF ALLAH WHILE YOU DO SO!"
Link Posted: 8/15/2007 8:31:27 AM EDT
[#2]
Hmmm....




I have no idea....


EDA:

Turn it in at the local PD and post pics of what happens!
Link Posted: 8/15/2007 8:33:29 AM EDT
[#3]
Point the long end down.

Now what do you see?
Link Posted: 8/15/2007 8:37:32 AM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:
Point the long end down.

Now what do you see?

still can't read it!
Link Posted: 8/15/2007 8:39:36 AM EDT
[#5]
Key to heaven? Didn't the Iranians use to give kids keys to heaven before they would do the ole human mine detector routine in the Iraq Iran war?
Link Posted: 8/15/2007 8:39:41 AM EDT
[#6]
Coptic Cross.
Link Posted: 8/15/2007 8:41:23 AM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Point the long end down.

Now what do you see?

still can't read it!
img127.imageshack.us/img127/6950/whatisitjv9.jpg



now is that some sort of wang joke?
Link Posted: 8/15/2007 8:42:54 AM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Point the long end down.

Now what do you see?

still can't read it!
img127.imageshack.us/img127/6950/whatisitjv9.jpg


It's a cross dude, not a muslim amulet.
Link Posted: 8/15/2007 8:43:17 AM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
Coptic Cross.

there's a Greek Orthodox church two doors down, but that isn't Greek writing

so what is a coptic cross? do i have to google it?


Quoted:

It's a cross dude, not a muslim amulet.


can anyone decipher what it says?
Link Posted: 8/15/2007 8:45:29 AM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Coptic Cross.

there's a Greek Orthodox church two doors down, but that isn't Greek writing

so what is a coptic cross? do i have to google it?


The Coptic Church is based in Egypt. They speak Arabic there.
Link Posted: 8/15/2007 8:47:01 AM EDT
[#11]
Pie Field Detector
Link Posted: 8/15/2007 8:50:31 AM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:
Coptic Cross.

Concur.
Link Posted: 8/15/2007 8:53:29 AM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:
Coptic Cross.


That is indeed what it appears to be.

The Coptic Church is an Orthodox church based originally in Egypt.

The first part seems to say a momento from somebody (like a token), but I haven't found out what the rest is as it appears to be Egyptian dialect Arabic.  I will post a translation later.

Link Posted: 8/15/2007 8:55:42 AM EDT
[#14]
I remember seeing those in Kurdistan.  
Link Posted: 8/15/2007 8:56:32 AM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Coptic Cross.


That is indeed what it appears to be.

The Coptic Church is an Orthodox church based originally in Egypt.

The first part seems to say a momento from somebody (like a token), but I haven't found out what the rest is as it appears to be Egyptian dialect Arabic.  I will post a translation later.


Thanks! Waiting for update..
I'll bring it back to the post office in case somone is looking for it
Link Posted: 8/15/2007 8:56:56 AM EDT
[#16]
Link Posted: 8/15/2007 8:57:45 AM EDT
[#17]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
Coptic Cross.

there's a Greek Orthodox church two doors down, but that isn't Greek writing

so what is a coptic cross? do i have to google it?


The Coptic Church is based in Egypt. They speak Arabic there.


Always find it odd that Coptics, Chaldeans, (Oriental Christians in general) and especially Sihks are confused with Muslims

Luck
Alac
Link Posted: 8/15/2007 8:59:05 AM EDT
[#18]
camel insemination tool
Link Posted: 8/15/2007 9:00:20 AM EDT
[#19]
What kinda cross is that?  They crucifying a T-Rex on it?  Shortest arms I ever did see.
Link Posted: 8/15/2007 9:00:45 AM EDT
[#20]
Link Posted: 8/15/2007 9:02:00 AM EDT
[#21]
¯\(°_0)/¯
Link Posted: 8/15/2007 9:48:00 AM EDT
[#22]
I sent the pictures to a Arab friend. He is waiting on the pics right now.


ETA: it is PERSIAN and it is from IRAN.

He is also unable to read it as it is NOT Arabic.
Link Posted: 8/15/2007 9:58:55 AM EDT
[#23]
I think it says

ALLAH AKHBAR  bar and grill
Link Posted: 8/15/2007 10:12:07 AM EDT
[#24]

Quoted:
I think it says

ALLAH AKHBAR  bar and grill
It is not Arabic. Try again.
Link Posted: 8/15/2007 10:13:08 AM EDT
[#25]
really old key to a really old city?
Link Posted: 8/15/2007 10:30:04 AM EDT
[#26]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I think it says

ALLAH AKHBAR  bar and grill
It is not Arabic. Try again.


It is indeed Arabic; just had a Coptic Egyptian friend translate it after looking at it for about 2 seconds.  Keep in mind the Arabic dialects can differ greatly, and Egyptian is definitely its own brand of Arabic.

It says:  "a token from the Monastery of Archbishop Samwil (Samuel) at Kalamon".
Link Posted: 8/15/2007 10:40:13 AM EDT
[#27]
edit - i hope i can get the correct answer without getting this thread locked
Link Posted: 8/15/2007 10:44:44 AM EDT
[#28]
It's the 72 virgins chastity belt key.
Link Posted: 8/15/2007 10:46:13 AM EDT
[#29]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
I think it says

ALLAH AKHBAR  bar and grill
It is not Arabic. Try again.


It is indeed Arabic; just had a Coptic Egyptian friend translate it after looking at it for about 2 seconds.  Keep in mind the Arabic dialects can differ greatly, and Egyptian is definitely its own brand of Arabic.

It says:  "a token from the Monastery of Archbishop Samwil (Samuel) at Kalamon".


I believe you are correct,
Link Posted: 8/15/2007 10:51:46 AM EDT
[#30]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
I think it says

ALLAH AKHBAR  bar and grill
It is not Arabic. Try again.


It is indeed Arabic; just had a Coptic Egyptian friend translate it after looking at it for about 2 seconds.  Keep in mind the Arabic dialects can differ greatly, and Egyptian is definitely its own brand of Arabic.

It says:  "a token from the Monastery of Archbishop Samwil (Samuel) at Kalamon".



I believe you are correct,


Especially given that Samuel of Kalamon is a Saint in the Coptic Church.
Link Posted: 8/15/2007 10:52:42 AM EDT
[#31]
height=8
Quoted:
What kinda cross is that?  They crucifying a T-Rex on it?  Shortest arms I ever did see.


Link Posted: 8/15/2007 10:59:14 AM EDT
[#32]

Quoted:


Especially given that Samuel of Kalamon is a Saint in the Coptic Church.


Honestly I don't know much about Coptic, but I do know a woman who is Coptic.

She is one of the most interesting people I have met. She is very independent, not bad on the eyes and western educated.

I emailed the image to her, if I was a betting man, I'd say she will reply with the same answer cjk1 did.
Link Posted: 8/15/2007 11:06:24 AM EDT
[#33]
NOW - I want you to go in that parking lot, and find my Coptic Cross.

"Which one is it?"

It's the one that says "Bad Motherf***er' on it...

Samuel L. Durka Durka



Link Posted: 8/15/2007 12:31:13 PM EDT
[#34]
Well my buddy if from Saudi Arabia. Guess that would be why he told me he was unable to understand it.
Link Posted: 8/15/2007 1:14:51 PM EDT
[#35]
Many Christian people that are arabic-speaking and of the area of the Mediterranean known as the Levant worship at Greek Orthodox churches. The Levant is comprised of modern-day Lebanon, Palestine, and Syria, with the highest concentration of practitioners of Orthodox Christianity found in Lebanon. The persuasion of Orthodoxy to which Levantian Arabs commonly belong doesn't have many places of worship in USA, and Greek Orthodox churches are far more common to find in America. In addition, Greek Orthodoxy is very, very close to it in custom and spirit.

Depending on the neighborhood in which it was found, there's could be a high possibility that the artifact in the picture belongs to the neighboring Greek Orthodox church.

I have a friend who is from the region and is is Orthodox. I'll ask for her opinion of the wooden key later on tonight.

I also wouldn't be surprised to find out that Arab-Christians from the Maghreeb (N.Africa) keep the same practice as those from the Levant with respect to Greek Orthodox churches.
Link Posted: 8/15/2007 1:27:08 PM EDT
[#36]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
I think it says

ALLAH AKHBAR  bar and grill
It is not Arabic. Try again.


It is indeed Arabic; just had a Coptic Egyptian friend translate it after looking at it for about 2 seconds.  Keep in mind the Arabic dialects can differ greatly, and Egyptian is definitely its own brand of Arabic.

It says:  "a token from the Monastery of Archbishop Samwil (Samuel) at Kalamon".



I believe you are correct,


Especially given that Samuel of Kalamon is a Saint in the Coptic Church.


Indeed.  About 5 minutes after posting that reply earlier, I was looking through a collection of Middle Eastern movies, and found one called "St Samuel the Confessor", made in Egypt
Link Posted: 8/15/2007 1:31:44 PM EDT
[#37]

Quoted:
Well my buddy if from Saudi Arabia. Guess that would be why he told me he was unable to understand it.


No worries, my Iraqi friend could only figure out the first word.  The first word is the the only word that I could figure out as well, as it is the same in Farsi, a language I speak.  

The rest are mostly proper nouns that are Christian references, so a Muslim not from Egypt would likely not be familiar with the term for monastery and the like.  
Link Posted: 8/15/2007 10:12:59 PM EDT
[#38]
bump for more input

Link Posted: 8/15/2007 10:19:10 PM EDT
[#39]
I'm pretty sure that is Persian and not Arabic.  And it is more than likely a Christian symbol, I'm almost sure it isn't muslim.

I will show it to my wife tomorrow.
Link Posted: 8/15/2007 10:22:03 PM EDT
[#40]

Quoted:
It's a mosque hall-pass.

"Ok, Hakim. You can go to the bathroom, but THINK ABOUT THE INFINITE MERCY OF ALLAH WHILE YOU DO SO!"


Link Posted: 8/15/2007 10:25:17 PM EDT
[#41]

Quoted:
I'm pretty sure that is Persian and not Arabic.  And it is more than likely a Christian symbol, I'm almost sure it isn't muslim.

I will show it to my wife tomorrow.


Persian and Arabic use many of the same characters. The sounds they make and grammar differ in the languages.

It can be and is Arabic. One of my Arabic language instructors at DLI was a Coptic from Egypt.
Link Posted: 8/15/2007 10:28:45 PM EDT
[#42]
I converted to christianity and all I got was this lousy key.........before being stoned to death.
Link Posted: 8/15/2007 10:34:56 PM EDT
[#43]
another pic of it next to a 6" inch scale



edit to add - the little crosses appear to have been made using a phillips head screwdriver
Link Posted: 8/15/2007 10:46:24 PM EDT
[#44]
Iranian Dildo.
Link Posted: 8/15/2007 10:47:33 PM EDT
[#45]

Quoted:
NOW - I want you to go in that parking lot, and find my Coptic Cross.

"Which one is it?"

It's the one that says "Bad Motherf***er' on it...

Samuel L. Durka Durka





After that was done playing, I got an option for a "Christianity in Israel" video.  How do they determine what the follow-on vids are?
Link Posted: 8/16/2007 3:08:55 AM EDT
[#46]

Quoted:
I converted to christianity and all I got was this lousy key.........before being stoned to death.


Link Posted: 8/16/2007 3:42:11 AM EDT
[#47]
It is a minature hazing paddle from the new Arabic school that is being built!!
Link Posted: 8/16/2007 5:08:11 AM EDT
[#48]

Quoted:
I'm pretty sure that is Persian and not Arabic.  And it is more than likely a Christian symbol, I'm almost sure it isn't muslim.

I will show it to my wife tomorrow.


If it is Persian, what are the words, and what do they mean in Farsi?

It is most certainly Arabic.  And most certainly a Coptic Christian symbol; the guy that translated it had a similar cross tattooed on his wrist, as is common.



Link Posted: 8/16/2007 7:50:31 AM EDT
[#49]
Talked to my wife.   She said she can't read it however.  She doesn't know what it is.  I'll have to have her look at it again, I don't know how hard she looked at it, she is at work.
Link Posted: 8/16/2007 8:00:58 AM EDT
[#50]

Quoted:
NOW - I want you to go in that parking lot, and find my Coptic Cross.

"Which one is it?"

It's the one that says "Bad Motherf***er' on it...

Samuel L. Durka Durka





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