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Posted: 6/16/2009 7:50:11 PM EST
[Last Edit: 6/16/2009 7:54:52 PM EST by -GunNutJuell-]
I keep hearing these ads on the talk radio and on TVwith Pat O'day about their painless medical miracle to rehabilitate alchoholics in 10 days. What do they do there? I had a buddy who worked there as an admissions guy/salesman for a few years, he says it's about $15000 for the 10 day stay, more if you need detox.
Anybody know what they do exactly to make people supposedly never want to drink again? Anybody been there?
Link Posted: 6/16/2009 8:01:59 PM EST
Probably benzos to stave off the DT's...10k is a shitload of money for some freaking valium.
Link Posted: 6/17/2009 7:11:30 PM EST
Only one response in almost 24 hours? Why am I not surprised?
Link Posted: 6/17/2009 7:24:40 PM EST
I think there is only one Schick Schadel and it is in Seattle. Not many people in GD have probably even heard of it.
Link Posted: 6/17/2009 7:26:42 PM EST
I have HEARD it is electro-shock treatment... Conditioning your mind to associate booze with pain.
Link Posted: 6/17/2009 7:28:12 PM EST
Originally Posted By SkilletsUSMC:
I have HEARD it is electro-shock treatment... Conditioning your mind to associate booze with pain.


+1,

I heard they use some sort of aversion therapy but I'm not sure what they use.
Link Posted: 6/17/2009 7:37:02 PM EST
Damn! 15K If I was looking for a cure, I'd want to look and the science/research/success rates before shelling out 15K. How long has it been in operation? Probably not long enough for longitudinal studies.

LSD used in a clinical setting is probably more effective, but you'd most likely have to go to Canada or elsewhere.
Link Posted: 6/17/2009 7:39:36 PM EST


I asked the Lord to "take the desire away from me." He did and I haven't had a drink since June 9th 2008...


- Clint
Link Posted: 6/17/2009 7:41:48 PM EST

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Link Posted: 6/17/2009 7:43:38 PM EST
Originally Posted By BatcaveSouth:
Damn! 15K If I was looking for a cure, I'd want to look and the science/research/success rates before shelling out 15K. How long has it been in operation? Probably not long enough for longitudinal studies.

LSD used in a clinical setting is probably more effective, but you'd most likely have to go to Canada or elsewhere.


They've been around these parts since the 80's... That's when I remember first seeing the commercials.
Link Posted: 6/17/2009 7:46:48 PM EST
Originally Posted By Alaskacajun:


I asked the Lord to "take the desire away from me." He did and I haven't had a drink since June 9th 2008...


- Clint


Well done.
Link Posted: 6/17/2009 7:49:10 PM EST
Originally Posted By Ranger689:
Originally Posted By SkilletsUSMC:
I have HEARD it is electro-shock treatment... Conditioning your mind to associate booze with pain.


+1,

I heard they use some sort of aversion therapy but I'm not sure what they use.


My friend told me they do use alchohol in aversion therapy in a controlled enviornment. But I'm sure thats not all.
Link Posted: 6/17/2009 7:49:28 PM EST
Originally Posted By SkilletsUSMC:
Originally Posted By BatcaveSouth:
Damn! 15K If I was looking for a cure, I'd want to look and the science/research/success rates before shelling out 15K. How long has it been in operation? Probably not long enough for longitudinal studies.

LSD used in a clinical setting is probably more effective, but you'd most likely have to go to Canada or elsewhere.


They've been around these parts since the 80's... That's when I remember first seeing the commercials.


My guess is if it has been successful enough, more would have heard of it and there would be franchises popping up.
Link Posted: 6/17/2009 7:57:05 PM EST

Originally Posted By Ranger689:
Originally Posted By SkilletsUSMC:
I have HEARD it is electro-shock treatment... Conditioning your mind to associate booze with pain.


+1,

I heard they use some sort of aversion therapy but I'm not sure what they use.

Here's what I found with a little Googling:
Aversion therapy for alcohol dependence is a very old therapy which appears to be very effective. Unfortunately, it has never been tested in any random assignment study. The premier organization doing aversion therapy for alcohol and drug dependence in the U.S. is Schick-Shadel Hospital in Seattle (206-244-8100, 1-800-272-8464). Their 10-day program combines five sessions of emetine aversion therapy (every other day) with other interventions. They have publish several studies showing a very high success rate, much higher than the average in the field. Faradic aversion is used for illicit drug abuse and occasionally for alcohol.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emetine

emetine is a drug used as both an anti-protozoal and to induce vomiting. It is produced from the ipecac root.




Link Posted: 6/17/2009 7:57:41 PM EST
Booze boarding®
Link Posted: 6/17/2009 8:03:54 PM EST

Originally Posted By Torqued:

Originally Posted By Ranger689:
Originally Posted By SkilletsUSMC:
I have HEARD it is electro-shock treatment... Conditioning your mind to associate booze with pain.


+1,

I heard they use some sort of aversion therapy but I'm not sure what they use.

Here's what I found with a little Googling:
Aversion therapy for alcohol dependence is a very oldtherapy which appears to be very effective. Unfortunately, it has neverbeen tested in any random assignment study. The premier organization doingaversion therapy for alcohol and drug dependence in the U.S. is Schick-ShadelHospital in Seattle (206-244-8100, 1-800-272-8464). Their 10-day program combines five sessions of emetine aversion therapy (everyother day) with other interventions. They have publish several studiesshowing a very high success rate, much higher than the average in thefield. Faradic aversion is used for illicit drug abuse and occasionallyfor alcohol.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emetine

emetine is a drug used as both an anti-protozoal and to induce vomiting. It is produced from the ipecac root.

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r253/Torqued713/arfcom/shick-rx1.jpg

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r253/Torqued713/arfcom/shick-rx2.jpg


These. Both Emetic Aversion therapy (remember the guy who had to see the Corpsman for his daily Anabuse pill? Same thing) and Faradic Aversion Therapy (electroshock) are used.

http://www.schickshadel.com/about/research_papers/Long-Term_Abstinence_From_Alcohol_in_Patients.pdf
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