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Posted: 4/16/2017 10:03:10 AM EDT
The ultimate Michigan Shotgun Zone deer rifle! Put together for me by Ranger Point Precision...20 inch Douglas barrel, crisp 3 pound trigger. Can't wait. Probably putting a Leupold 2-7x scope on it.
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Posted: 4/16/2017 10:08:40 AM EDT
Very nice. How's the feeding? Any issues with the rebated rim?
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Posted: 4/16/2017 10:10:15 AM EDT
Good looking gun OP!
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Posted: 4/16/2017 10:13:36 AM EDT
I approve of this. Now send it to me for evaluation.
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Posted: 4/16/2017 10:15:58 AM EDT
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Very nice. How's the feeding? Any issues with the rebated rim? |
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Posted: 4/16/2017 10:44:48 AM EDT
do keep up with the updates please that is an awesome conversion.
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Posted: 4/16/2017 10:47:04 AM EDT
So you can use this is the shotgun area?
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Posted: 4/16/2017 10:49:01 AM EDT
I'll allow it.....
nice OP, very nice |
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Posted: 4/16/2017 10:49:33 AM EDT
a 450 bushy lever gun?
oh it's a silly hunting law gun, Ruger announced a 450 scout, guess that explains that |
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Posted: 4/16/2017 11:02:41 AM EDT
Why not just 4570?
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Posted: 4/16/2017 11:04:08 AM EDT
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Why not just 4570? |
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Posted: 4/16/2017 11:13:33 AM EDT
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Just picked it up yesterday, I haven't fired it yet. Adam Devine (the gunsmith) told me that the feeding was the trickiest part of this conversion, he ran it/fired it before shipping it to me. 
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Posted: 4/16/2017 11:15:06 AM EDT
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a 450 bushy lever gun? oh it's a silly hunting law gun, Ruger announced a 450 scout, guess that explains that |
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Posted: 4/16/2017 11:16:46 AM EDT
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They just started a couple years ago allowing a cartridge .35 or greater with a case length between 1.18 and 1.8 inches and has to be straight walled. 450 Bushmaster or 50 Beowulf in an AR15 and 450 Raptor in and AR10. You can use this in the "shotgun zone" now. |
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Posted: 4/16/2017 11:18:38 AM EDT
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Why not just 4570? |
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Posted: 4/16/2017 11:21:44 AM EDT
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Why not just 4570? |
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Posted: 4/16/2017 11:24:00 AM EDT
Cool
I purchased one in 45/70 about a month ago. Seems to be built fairly well. I do feel that a better trigger pull would be good. How does your trigger feel now compared to stock? |
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Posted: 4/16/2017 11:53:17 AM EDT
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Cool I purchased one in 45/70 about a month ago. Seems to be built fairly well. I do feel that a better trigger pull would be good. How does your trigger feel now compared to stock? |
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Posted: 4/16/2017 12:14:12 PM EDT
I've never hunted in a State with weird laws like that. I've always used the following.
Rifle: .243 Winchester .270 Winchester .308 Winchester .30-06 Springfield .45-70 Government Handgun: .357 Magnum .41 Magnum .44 Magnum .45 ACP .45 Colt 10mm Auto .40 S&W Used bolt actions, lever actions, semi-autos (for both rifle and pistol), and revolvers. But cool that there is a Lever Action in a modern cartridge. |
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Posted: 4/16/2017 12:17:59 PM EDT
As a self-proclaimed fudd, what are you doing with a pic rail on your fudd gun? Shouldn't you be soiling yourself in a corner over the evil black militaristic feature that cheapens the value of your classic guns and has no business being in civilian hands?
"If it ain't a Weaver rail, you don't need it!" |
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Posted: 4/16/2017 12:19:36 PM EDT
Good looking gun, by the way!
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Posted: 4/16/2017 12:19:59 PM EDT
I like it. I really want someone to mass produce some lever guns in modern automatic handgun cartridges.
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Posted: 4/16/2017 12:31:19 PM EDT
How is the .450 Bushy different from the .450 Marlin performance wise?
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Posted: 4/16/2017 1:21:12 PM EDT
Smart getting that rail long. The factory ones are short.
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Posted: 4/16/2017 1:33:16 PM EDT
Yep....Michigan has some strange laws in the "shotgun zone". They base it off of case length rather than cartridge length, silly that you can't use a 45-70.
The trigger on this one is nice and crisp, 3 pounds. I have the "Happy Trigger" on a few other Marlins, absolutely love them. |
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Posted: 4/16/2017 1:43:53 PM EDT
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As a self-proclaimed fudd, what are you doing with a pic rail on your fudd gun? Shouldn't you be soiling yourself in a corner over the evil black militaristic feature that cheapens the value of your classic guns and has no business being in civilian hands? "If it ain't a Weaver rail, you don't need it!"  Naaahhhh. I truly don't enjoy using military style guns for hunting....but I'm sure as heck not against it. I absolutely support the choice to use them.
But for me; I like double guns, levers, flintlocks, etc. I could have saved a bunch of money just getting an upper for my AR, or buying one of the Rugers.... |
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Posted: 4/16/2017 2:59:27 PM EDT
Nice looking gun , should be good huntin gun.
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Posted: 4/16/2017 3:14:47 PM EDT
Pure sex.
I've been using my muzzleloader for the shotgun zone. For a minute was tempted to pickup a ruger 44/70. I now own property above the line. |
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Posted: 4/16/2017 3:17:41 PM EDT
Hey OP did you build that chair? Looks good.
Nice rifle too. 
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Posted: 4/16/2017 4:57:29 PM EDT
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Hey OP did you build that chair? Looks good. Nice rifle too. |
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Posted: 4/16/2017 5:01:40 PM EDT
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Pure sex. I've been using my muzzleloader for the shotgun zone. For a minute was tempted to pickup a ruger 44/70. I now own property above the line. 100 yards or less the 44's and 45's are great |
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Posted: 4/16/2017 5:08:01 PM EDT
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I just looked it up and it appears to have a case length of Min: 2.095" and Max: 2.105". Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why not just 4570? |
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Posted: 4/16/2017 5:38:44 PM EDT
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See my post below about the weird rules for hunting in Michigan. |
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Posted: 4/16/2017 5:43:55 PM EDT
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Got it. Is there any science to these rules, or are they arbitrary decisions by non-shooting political appointees? I recall IN and maybe IA have similar nonsensical laws. I'd rather have a high-velocity rifle round bouncing around than a slow-moving thumb-sized lead chunk. The chunk won't break up. |
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Posted: 4/16/2017 5:50:10 PM EDT
Nice rifle.
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Posted: 4/16/2017 6:35:09 PM EDT
I put a 1-4x on my SOCOM.
458 drops like a rock after 150 yards. 450 is similar, you might want a 1x in case you gotta shoot things close. |
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Posted: 4/18/2017 8:24:48 AM EDT
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I put a 1-4x on my SOCOM. 458 drops like a rock after 150 yards. 450 is similar, you might want a 1x in case you gotta shoot things close. |
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Posted: 4/18/2017 8:11:46 PM EDT
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That is probably good advice. My son has a 1-4x on his 45-70, I was thinking about borrowing it for try out. The 2-7 seems to be too much scope for a lever gun. 
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Posted: 4/18/2017 8:27:26 PM EDT
a 460S&W lever gun would be a good candidate also
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Posted: 4/19/2017 7:22:35 AM EDT
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a 460S&W lever gun would be a good candidate also 44 Magnum 357 Magnum 357 Maximum 450 Bushmaster 50 AE 480 Ruger 500 S&W 454 Casull 45 Colt .41 Long Colt .44 Special .45 Winchester Magnum .45 Smith & Wesson .454 Casull .460 S&W |
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Posted: 4/19/2017 8:13:34 AM EDT
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Why not just 4570? In MN I hunt with a 14" 458 SOCOM AR pistol in shotgun zone because of the stupid laws. Also because they changed the laws a few years ago I can hunt with any center fire over .222 Caliber, so that 25 ACP Raven is legal for deer hunting. |
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Posted: 4/19/2017 10:17:38 AM EDT
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Naaahhhh. I truly don't enjoy using military style guns for hunting....but I'm sure as heck not against it. I absolutely support the choice to use them.
But for me; I like double guns, levers, flintlocks, etc. I could have saved a bunch of money just getting an upper for my AR, or buying one of the Rugers.... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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As a self-proclaimed fudd, what are you doing with a pic rail on your fudd gun? Shouldn't you be soiling yourself in a corner over the evil black militaristic feature that cheapens the value of your classic guns and has no business being in civilian hands? "If it ain't a Weaver rail, you don't need it!" Naaahhhh. I truly don't enjoy using military style guns for hunting....but I'm sure as heck not against it. I absolutely support the choice to use them.
But for me; I like double guns, levers, flintlocks, etc. I could have saved a bunch of money just getting an upper for my AR, or buying one of the Rugers.... |
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Posted: 4/19/2017 10:28:02 AM EDT
Very nice looking rifle, and I agree with the 1-4 optic suggestion.
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Posted: 4/19/2017 11:04:02 AM EDT
I had Ranger chop down a 95 and thread it. They were not inexpensive, and lacked the ability to class 3 it (so would install a sub 16" barrel on it even if I had papers and engraving-they would cut everything and send me back the parts, go figure). Anyway, it became a 16.25" build, good work.
ATF law is funny. If I have a pile of parts, they can constructively assemble them and make me a felon. But apparently I can not get the paperwork done and and have my construction assembled sbr worked on by a gunsmith. |
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Posted: 4/20/2017 8:31:49 AM EDT
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You could definitely saved a ton of money, but kudos for hunting with the gun you want to hunt with. But, I absolutely love deer hunting with lever action rifles. Some folks piss money away on casinos, golf, whatever....I sure didn't need it either. Have been super successful using hopped up 45LC and 44 Magnum carbines. I recognize that the only person impressed by this is me 
"Life is short, shoot cool stuff" |
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