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Posted: 7/20/2008 6:49:59 PM EDT
I was watching Man on Fire today and I couldn't stop thinking about in that situation at the end when Creasy trades himself for the girl, why wouldn't he have a sniper set up to take out the BGs once the girl is safe.

The situation is as follows:

400 yards away
8 Badguys, a few with rifles
Two cars they have for cover
BGs need to be put down quickly to cover your guy


What do you use?


I'm thinking SR25 with a nightforce scope and some good BlackHills ammo.
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 6:52:20 PM EDT
In the scenario posted it is highly improbable that one sniper....no matter how good even with a semi auto could take out 8 bad guys, especially if they have concealment in the form of autos, before one of those bad guys could shoot one or more good guys.

You would need more than one sniper preferably at least 4.
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 6:52:54 PM EDT
What, you didn't like the ending?

My answer is M25.
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 6:53:05 PM EDT
M-82 so it would not matter they were in cars
glass and sheetmetal can do weird things to 308
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 6:53:17 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/20/2008 6:53:36 PM EDT by Quintin]

Originally Posted By Slappy96:
I was watching Man on Fire today and I couldn't stop thinking about in that situation at the end when Creasy trades himself for the girl, why wouldn't he have a sniper set up to take out the BGs once the girl is safe.

He wasn't exactly in friendly territory with a lot of support; hell, he had to shove explosives up some dude's ass to get answers to some questions, it'd take a miracle to get sniper support.
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 6:53:49 PM EDT

Originally Posted By thexrayboy:
In the scenario posted it is highly improbable that one sniper....no matter how good even with a semi auto could take out 8 bad guys, especially if they have concealment in the form of autos, before one of those bad guys could shoot one or more good guys.

You would need more than one sniper preferably at least 4.


True in a sense it would be suicide but its just you. What do you do go out even further and high tail it after creating a diversion?
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 6:55:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/20/2008 6:55:24 PM EDT by Slappy96]

Originally Posted By www-glock19-com:
M-82 so it would not matter they were in cars
glass and sheetmetal can do weird things to 308


I was thinking .50 at first but it would be hard to suppress and conceal your location, correct?
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 6:55:46 PM EDT
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 6:56:46 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Slappy96:

Originally Posted By www-glock19-com:
M-82 so it would not matter they were in cars
glass and sheetmetal can do weird things to 308


I was thinking .50 at first but it would be hard to suppress and conceal your location, correct?


400 yards will bleach the sound out quite well.
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 6:57:33 PM EDT
M2 FTW
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 6:57:33 PM EDT

Originally Posted By MoNkEyTurbo:
www.defenseindustrydaily.com/images/ORD_AT4-M136_Swedish_lg.jpg



I was thinking more likea A10 Warthog.
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 7:02:24 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Jrock82:
What, you didn't like the ending?

My answer is M25.


Nope, the ending sucked.
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 7:19:31 PM EDT
GAU-25.

With a C-more red dot.
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 7:21:16 PM EDT
.338 Lapua
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 7:22:13 PM EDT


Is that the shoulder thing that goes up?
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 7:24:03 PM EDT
M110
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 7:25:16 PM EDT
He was already dead. He didn't care about himself. He only cared about the girl and he knew that she had a better shot at not being a victim again if he held up his side of the bargain.
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 7:25:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/20/2008 7:25:51 PM EDT by AMG08]
yeah, a sniper ending would have been cool, but Creasy had to keep his word as the "Voice" or whatever the heck it was kept his. plus he was dying anyways.

ETA: beat by 3 seconds.
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 7:25:48 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Yossarian:

Originally Posted By Jrock82:
What, you didn't like the ending?

My answer is M25.


Nope, the ending sucked.


Not all endings are prefectly happy. That one was pretty good, the girl got to go free, and he died before he was tortured to death.
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 7:26:01 PM EDT
He was already dying from the attack when the girl was kidnapped. That's the point, he had no intention of living. The badguy met his end by means of point blank handgun fire in the end anyways.

My answer would be the .408 Chey-Tac or the Accuracy International AS 50. Either would do the Job. Also you are not dealing with professional soldiers here, just with petty thugs. If you has a good position you could dispatch the badguys without taking fire yourself. Especially in a movie
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 7:27:10 PM EDT
semi .338 Lapua?
Do they make those?
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 7:28:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/20/2008 7:29:59 PM EDT by ultramagbrion]
A trued Rem 700 with a 28" + Lilja w/ brake in 338 RUM would be my choice....and it's my next project


Link Posted: 7/20/2008 7:28:33 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Sylvan:
semi .338 Lapua?
Do they make those?


Yeah, I remember seeing one. I don't know who made it, or whether it was in development or not.

Looked pretty badass
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 7:28:41 PM EDT
AT-4
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 7:32:09 PM EDT

Originally Posted By RAINBOW6:
www.defenseindustrydaily.com/images/ORD_AT4-M136_Swedish_lg.jpg

Is that the shoulder thing that goes up?


Nope that's the one that goes down.

In this scenerio, 8 @ 400 w/ protected subject near perps- I'd be comfortable w/ a good scoped semi in .308 to 50bmg. The idea isn't that all 8 perps would be killed but that you could cover so that the protected subject could exit the area while the killing and mayhem ensued.

Sly
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 7:35:25 PM EDT
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 7:43:57 PM EDT

Originally Posted By shootemup:

Originally Posted By Sylvan:
semi .338 Lapua?
Do they make those?


Yeah, I remember seeing one. I don't know who made it, or whether it was in development or not.

Looked pretty badass


Cobb made it.
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 8:05:00 PM EDT
AR10/SR25 -- with suppressor. I know it's not Hollywood silent, but at a quarter mile, ithe sound is disguised enough that a few people would be down before anybody figured out there was somebody shooting.
Link Posted: 7/20/2008 8:20:02 PM EDT
Hathcock could have done it with a .22 and a slingshot.
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