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Posted: 8/13/2011 5:24:29 AM EDT
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Trans Texas Corridor Guardasil He's a career politician and has NO spine unless it is politically expedient to have one. I will not vote from him for Pres. |
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Posted: 8/13/2011 5:26:54 AM EDT
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You got cash to give him then he's your boy. Otherwise you might as well vote for a rock. Don't know what's up with the rep. Party but there is not one candidate I can vote for.
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Posted: 8/13/2011 5:27:06 AM EDT
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I like him, and I will vote for him. Nobody is perfect.
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Posted: 8/13/2011 5:29:35 AM EDT
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Just another polished politician. Nothing to see here, just keep moving....
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Posted: 8/13/2011 5:29:43 AM EDT
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Former Democrat Trans Texas Corridor Guardasil He's a career politician and has NO spine unless it is politically expedient to have one. I will not vote from him for Pres. Can one infer from that that he is weak on illegal immigration? |
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Posted: 8/13/2011 5:30:39 AM EDT
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Just another polished politician. Nothing to see here, just keep moving.... Interesting coming from a Texan. Usually you guys are pretty thick. I'll take that into consideration...... 
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Posted: 8/13/2011 5:32:03 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Former Democrat Trans Texas Corridor Guardasil He's a career politician and has NO spine unless it is politically expedient to have one. I will not vote from him for Pres. Can one infer from that that he is weak on illegal immigration? Maybe...In a round about way. I would not expect him to be strong on immigration, PERIOD. Neither him nor Bush did fuck all about it down here. So don't expect that to change. ETA: The whole premise of the TTC was to seize private land to open a tollway that would be built and operated by a Spanish or Mexican company. Brilliant!  |
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Posted: 8/13/2011 5:33:08 AM EDT
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Former Democrat Trans Texas Corridor Guardasil He's a career politician and has NO spine unless it is politically expedient to have one. I will not vote from him for Pres. Can one infer from that that he is weak on illegal immigration? Yes. The only time he mentions the border is in an election year. |
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Posted: 8/13/2011 5:34:29 AM EDT
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Loves to hire all of his buddies for jobs. Won't admit it when he is wrong and will attempt to cover it up when he is.
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/7675368.html |
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Posted: 8/13/2011 5:35:44 AM EDT
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Former Democrat Reagan was one Trans Texas Corridor Guardasil He's a career politician and has NO spine unless it is politically expedient to have one. I will not vote from him for Pres. 
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Posted: 8/13/2011 5:36:33 AM EDT
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He doesnt seem so bad to me. From what I understand and I may be wrong, he seems to be a proponent of illegal aliens and amnesty, other than that he seems conservative enough.
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Posted: 8/13/2011 5:37:18 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Former Democrat Reagan was one Trans Texas Corridor Guardasil He's a career politician and has NO spine unless it is politically expedient to have one. I will not vote from him for Pres. You are one bright spark if you are comparing Reagan to Perry... |
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Posted: 8/13/2011 5:39:14 AM EDT
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He doesnt seem so bad to me. From what I understand and I may be wrong, he seems to be a proponent of illegal aliens and amnesty, other than that he seems conservative enough. Unfortunately, in these hard economic times and the likelihood of which party 20 million "instant citizens" would vote for it IS a major issue to consider. |
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Posted: 8/13/2011 5:40:46 AM EDT
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I like him and he has a very nice family. His daughter hunted with an AR last year and he has a CHL. When the time comes I'll give him money.
No one really cares if some nutcases on a gun board does not like him, Texas will go to Perry in a BIG way, ironically with a goodly chunk of the Hispanic vote. You don't find many Hispanics being Ron Paul supporters. 
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Posted: 8/13/2011 5:41:40 AM EDT
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Perry actually has a shot at beating the imbecile in the White House right now. None of the others do.
Perry beats the ever-loving fuck out of Romney (I wouldn't vote for Romney if they reanimated Reagan and made him his VP). That's all I need to know. Go Perry! |
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Posted: 8/13/2011 5:42:33 AM EDT
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I like him and he has a very nice family. His daughter hunted with an AR last year and he has a CHL. When the time comes I'll give him money. No one really cares if some nutcases on a gun board does not like him, Texas will go to Perry in a BIG way, ironically with a goodly chunk of the Hispanic vote. You don't find many Hispanics being Ron Paul supporters.
Or anyone with half a brain. 
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Posted: 8/13/2011 5:43:43 AM EDT
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As far as him being a former Democrat well he saw the error in his ways so he switched.
It wasn't to far ago and it wasn't in a land far, far away that if you had a (R) beside your name on the ballot you would NOT be elected in most of if not all of Texas. 
There will be plenty of window lickers to remind you of that but most never explain the why of it.
One would have to be a full herp derp to think that someone like Sheriff Joe Arpaio (stance on illegals) would have a snowballs chance in hell of getting elected on a National level much less as President. 
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Posted: 8/13/2011 5:47:55 AM EDT
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He doesnt seem so bad to me. From what I understand and I may be wrong, he seems to be a proponent of illegal aliens and amnesty, other than that he seems conservative enough. Unfortunately, in these hard economic times and the likelihood of which party 20 million "instant citizens" would vote for it IS a major issue to consider. Whether we like it or not.
BigDozer66 |
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Posted: 8/13/2011 5:49:05 AM EDT
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I like him and he has a very nice family. His daughter hunted with an AR last year and he has a CHL. When the time comes I'll give him money. No one really cares if some nutcases on a gun board does not like him, Texas will go to Perry in a BIG way, ironically with a goodly chunk of the Hispanic vote. You don't find many Hispanics being Ron Paul supporters.
Or anyone with half a brain.
BUT he wins all of the polls! 
BigDozer66 |
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Posted: 8/13/2011 5:50:22 AM EDT
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He's a politician?
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Posted: 8/13/2011 5:53:58 AM EDT
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I like him and he has a very nice family. His daughter hunted with an AR last year and he has a CHL. When the time comes I'll give him money. No one really cares if some nutcases on a gun board does not like him, Texas will go to Perry in a BIG way, ironically with a goodly chunk of the Hispanic vote. You don't find many Hispanics being Ron Paul supporters.
Or anyone with half a brain.
BUT he wins all of the polls!
BigDozer66 Wut? Which ones? The Fantasy Land ones? |
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Posted: 8/13/2011 5:56:41 AM EDT
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1. Elected 3 times as a Dem.
2. Voted for largest tax increase in TX history. 3. TX debt has tripled to 34 billion since he became Gov. 4. State Chairman for Al Gore. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 8/13/2011 5:57:09 AM EDT
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He's a politician? Yep and a damn good one if that any indicator |
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Posted: 8/13/2011 5:58:20 AM EDT
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Former Democrat Trans Texas Corridor Guardasil He's a career politician and has NO spine unless it is politically expedient to have one. I will not vote from him for Pres. Can one infer from that that he is weak on illegal immigration? Or that he's smart enough to stay away from a politically explosive issue? A republican candidate absolutely has to appeal to the center to win against obama. A strong social conservative won't win. Someone pointed out in another thread that the "corridor" was a much needed highway project to relieve congestion on other roads. Roads are bad? Trade is bad? Illegal immigration is a separate issue IMO. Look at Perry's bright side - he's a successful two term governor meaning he has sufficient executive experience to manage the real politics involved in pushing legislation through congress. Bush was very good at this, so was Reagan and so was clinton (like him or not) . All of them were two term governors. One term congressmen do not, in my opinion, have anywhere near enough experience. obama obviously has no clue. Texas's state budget and economy are doing very well under Perry. California they ain't. The Perry bashers like to bring up the Gardasil HPV vaccine issue. AFAIK there was an opt out, but the anti-vaccination crowd is running with it anyway. Someday there will be another plague and these people will crawl back under their rocks. Frankly I want my daughters to be protected against a virus that causes cervical cancer. A lot of the Perry bashers also seem to be hard core social conservatives who's favorite candidates don't stand a chance in hell of beating obama, and beating obama is the only thing that matters at this point in time. Hard to believe these people "Won't vote for Perry". Apparently they'd like to see a second term for obama? I would also point out that a lot of our well known Texas members like him. Take that for what it's worth. |
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Posted: 8/13/2011 6:00:08 AM EDT
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Former Democrat Reagan was one Trans Texas Corridor Guardasil He's a career politician and has NO spine unless it is politically expedient to have one. I will not vote from him for Pres. You are one bright spark if you are comparing Reagan to Perry...
Reagan wasn't exactly ideal either given the 86 amnesty, Hughes amendment, and EMTALA |
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Posted: 8/13/2011 6:15:58 AM EDT
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George Bush the third. Big govt , big spender, pure politician. More of the same. But everyone here will flock to him because "this is chess, not checkers".
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Posted: 8/13/2011 6:20:40 AM EDT
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George Bush the third turd. Big govt , big spender, pure politician. More of the same. But everyone here will flock to him because "this is chess, not checkers". FTFY 
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Posted: 8/13/2011 6:21:55 AM EDT
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He doesnt seem so bad to me. From what I understand and I may be wrong, he seems to be a proponent of illegal aliens and amnesty, other than that he seems conservative enough. Unfortunately, in these hard economic times and the likelihood of which party 20 million "instant citizens" would vote for it IS a major issue to consider. No doubt, that is a huge issue for me as well and IMO one we will fix eventually. The realities of the federal budget will dictate it. Even liberals will have to make a choice between give aways to American citizen parasites Vs third world parasites once the .gov titty dries up. |
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Posted: 8/13/2011 6:23:15 AM EDT
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If we're talking Katy Perry, then her main shortcoming is that she isn't sitting on my face.
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Posted: 8/13/2011 6:24:03 AM EDT
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Quoted: What does ARFCOM think Perry's shortcomings are? He isn't the frontrunner yet? All I got. |
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Posted: 8/13/2011 6:24:56 AM EDT
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Perry actually has a shot at beating the imbecile in the White House right now. None of the others do. Perry beats the ever-loving fuck out of Romney (I wouldn't vote for Romney if they reanimated Reagan and made him his VP). That's all I need to know. Go Perry! I disagree. IMO the only ones with no shot of beating the kenyan are the nutjobs, newt, ron paul and romney. The ONLY reason obama cruised through the general the way he did is that we were dumb enough to put that cocksucker juan mccain up against him. Someone with balls and convictions would have crushed that empty suit. |
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Posted: 8/13/2011 6:25:28 AM EDT
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Former Democrat Trans Texas Corridor Guardasil He's a career politician and has NO spine unless it is politically expedient to have one. I will not vote from him for Pres. Reagan was a democrat too.
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Posted: 8/13/2011 6:26:37 AM EDT
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Former Democrat Reagan was one Trans Texas Corridor Guardasil He's a career politician and has NO spine unless it is politically expedient to have one. I will not vote from him for Pres. You are one bright spark if you are comparing Reagan to Perry...
Well, Reagan DID sign an amnesty for illegal aliens.
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Posted: 8/13/2011 6:30:54 AM EDT
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Quoted: George Bush the third. Big govt , big spender, pure politician. More of the same. But everyone here will flock to him because "this is chess, not checkers". Not me. |
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Posted: 8/13/2011 6:34:38 AM EDT
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The way I see it, he'll do. The real plan is to primary the RINOS, keep the HoR and gain SM in the Senate. All's President Not-Obama needs to do is sign the bills the (hopefully conservative0 congress sends him.
- Border Enforcement with aggressive plans to flush the illegals -repeal of ObamaCare -Penny plan or similar to balance budget and massive pay down of deficit -MASSIVE tax reform, - FEDGOV reform (ATF,DOE, EPA, FDA,etc) Cut, downsize, cut and cut some more. I'm thinking of the Secretary and a small office staff of 5 :) -Repeal Hughes amendment and national reciprocity for CCW |
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Posted: 8/13/2011 6:39:30 AM EDT
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Enough with these threads...geeze.
Perry has shortcomings like ALL politicians but he is the best bet for defeating Obama. It's that simple. |
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Posted: 8/13/2011 6:40:50 AM EDT
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Enough with these threads...geeze. Perry has shortcomings like ALL politicians but he is the best bet for defeating Obama. It's that simple. QFT |
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Posted: 8/13/2011 6:40:51 AM EDT
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Enough with these threads...geeze. Perry has shortcomings like ALL politicians but he is the best bet for defeating Obama. It's that simple. I agree. Some people here just have to hate. |
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Posted: 8/13/2011 6:41:09 AM EDT
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The way I see it, he'll do. The real plan is to primary the RINOS, keep the HoR and gain SM in the Senate. All's President Not-Obama needs to do is sign the bills the (hopefully conservative0 congress sends him. - Border Enforcement with aggressive plans to flush the illegals -repeal of ObamaCare -Penny plan or similar to balance budget and massive pay down of deficit -MASSIVE tax reform, - FEDGOV reform (ATF,DOE, EPA, FDA,etc) Cut, downsize, cut and cut some more. I'm thinking of the Secretary and a small office staff of 5 :) -Repeal Hughes amendment and national reciprocity for CCW If you think any of that will happen you live in fantasy land. |
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Posted: 8/13/2011 6:45:36 AM EDT
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George Bush the third. Big govt , big spender, pure politician. More of the same. But everyone here will flock to him because "this is chess, not checkers". Because it is and if you can't figure out in that head of yours that Perry is better economically, socially, and militarily than a fucking Communist bastard you have bigger problems than worrying about the election. |
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Posted: 8/13/2011 6:49:08 AM EDT
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I think if WE cannot get behind somebody electable and Obummer gets a second term we are done. More liberal Supreme Court judges, etc. Perry has his faults but he can win. Rather have Perry than Romney.
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Posted: 8/13/2011 6:58:29 AM EDT
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Former Democrat Trans Texas Corridor Guardasil He's a career politician and has NO spine unless it is politically expedient to have one. I will not vote from him for Pres. Former Democrat: So was Reagan. Move on. The change was in the *right* direction. Trans Texas Corridor: Only hippies fight highways. Perry isn't a hippie. More goods being moved through Texas means: More Texas Jobs, and more money getting put in the Texas economy. Guardasil: Vaccines save lives. Folks with their tinfoil on too-tight are bothered by Perry's pro-vaccine stand. Vaccines save lives. Loosen your tinfoil. Career politician: Obama is also a career politician. I would rather have Perry making Supreme Court choices, and gun-related choices than Obama. Perry can win the Republican party *and* the moderate middle. Obama is going to win his party, and hopefully lose the moderate middle. A super-hard-line, anti-highway, anti-vaccine candidate isn't going to win the moderate middle. I think Perry can do it against Obama. Who else we got? Bachman does not appeal at all to moderates. She hasn't actually ever passed a piece of conservative legistlation in her life. She is a do-nothing. Romney can win moderates, but not the Republican base. You need both to win on a broad scale... So who else we got. Perry can appeal to the Republican base, and he can appeal outside the party... |
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Posted: 8/13/2011 6:59:09 AM EDT
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Enough with these threads...geeze. Perry has shortcomings like ALL politicians but he is the best bet for defeating Obama. It's that simple. I agree. Some people here just have to hate. This is worth repeating, IF Perry hits the ground running today. A LOT of folks outside the NE can't stand Romney personally but realize he IS experienced. Perry is an experienced alternative to Romney, and Perry DIDN'T lose to that loser McCain. I don't know a whole lot about Perry here in NC, but what I DO know (good AND bad) I have learned from the good folks from Texas here on AR15.com. Is Perry as Conservative as I am? Hell, no. Is he an experienced Executive? Damn right he is. I will reserve judgement until I see how he does on the trail and what he's doing........that's fair enough, right? Bottom line, Obama MUST be defeated, period freaking dot. |
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Posted: 8/13/2011 7:00:47 AM EDT
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Get ready to see the traffic stop video where he "bullies" the officer and acts like an elitist dick.
You will probably see it thousands of times before the election. |
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Posted: 8/13/2011 7:01:59 AM EDT
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Former Democrat Trans Texas Corridor Guardasil He's a career politician and has NO spine unless it is politically expedient to have one. I will not vote from him for Pres. Former Democrat: So was Reagan. Move on. The change was in the *right* direction. Trans Texas Corridor: Only hippies fight highways. Perry isn't a hippie. More goods being moved through Texas means: More Texas Jobs, and more money getting put in the Texas economy. Guardasil: Vaccines save lives. Folks with their tinfoil on too-tight are bothered by Perry's pro-vaccine stand. Vaccines save lives. Loosen your tinfoil. Career politician: Obama is also a career politician. I would rather have Perry making Supreme Court choices, and gun-related choices than Obama. Perry can win the Republican party *and* the moderate middle. Obama is going to win his party, and hopefully lose the moderate middle. A super-hard-line, anti-highway, anti-vaccine candidate isn't going to win the moderate middle. I think Perry can do it against Obama. Who else we got? Bachman does not appeal at all to moderates. She hasn't actually ever passed a piece of conservative legistlation in her life. She is a do-nothing. Romney can win moderates, but not the Republican base. You need both to win on a broad scale... So who else we got. Perry can appeal to the Republican base, and he can appeal outside the party... And that's about it.
A President with a concealed carry sounds good to me. |
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Posted: 8/13/2011 7:05:56 AM EDT
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I keep reading, "Reagan was a Democrat." Well how many times was Reagan elected as a Democrat?
Because Perry was elected 3 times as one. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 8/13/2011 7:08:34 AM EDT
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I keep reading, "Reagan was a Democrat." Well how many times was Reagan elected as a Democrat? Because Perry was elected 3 times as one. And for about the thousandth time, that means nothing. In those days, all politicians in Texas were Democrats. The party changed, and the politicians changed parties. |
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Posted: 8/13/2011 7:09:28 AM EDT
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Reagan wasn't exactly ideal either given the 86 amnesty, Hughes amendment, and EMTALA No one is perfect. But it isn't like Reagan was pushing the Hughes amendment. People need to grasp that POTUS isn't king, and doesn't always get their way. What is EMTALA? |
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Posted: 8/13/2011 7:11:28 AM EDT
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1. Elected 3 times as a Dem. Already discussed this. Reagan was president of a powerful union while he was a Democrat. So what. Reagan and Perry both changed in the *right* direction. 2. Voted for largest tax increase in TX history. And... Paid the bills on time, and grew the economy of Texas in a downturned economy. Jobs have grown in *all* sectors in Texas under Perry. 3. TX debt has tripled to 34 billion since he became Gov. In a down economy, Texas is looking pretty good under Perry compared to most other states. Perry has paid the bills in a down economy, and has grown jobs in a down economy. Start whining when TX starts sending IOU's to its cops. Until then, Perry is doing better than most other governors... 4. State Chairman for Al Gore. In 1988... Before Gore was a global warming douche... Back then Gore, if you can believe it, was a moderate Democrat... And Reagan was a Union thug once . Who cares. Reagan and Perry changed in the *right* direction. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I do get a kick out of the negative responses to Perry. Perry can outright beat Obama. He has the Republican Party popularity, and he has the ability to appeal outside the party. But these negative talking points crack me up. Question 1 and 4 are pretty much the "same" issue, and question 2 and 3 are pretty much the same problem. But only having two issues:1. He was once a Democrat, and 2. He has paid the bills on time in Texas... Makes it look like he might be an all-right Republican candidate... And we can't have that, can we... 
Perry is going to win the Republican nomination. He is going to pick someone who can support the ticket, and not appear to lampoon themselves on SNL. He is going to win the moderate middle, and he is going to be making appointments to the Supreme Court, and not Obama. |
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Posted: 8/13/2011 7:13:28 AM EDT
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George Bush the third. Big govt , big spender, pure politician. More of the same. But everyone here will flock to him because "this is chess, not checkers". Because it is and if you can't figure out in that head of yours that Perry is better economically, socially, and militarily than a fucking Communist bastard you have bigger problems than worrying about the election. Perry looks like the best choice too me. We need someone who has solid executive experience. That pretty much means a governor. We need to rectify the 2008 mistake of electing a one term senator to POTUS. |
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