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Posted: 10/8/2004 8:09:15 AM EDT
Most of us could agree, I believe, that contained within Marxism were the seeds of its own destruction. While it may have sounded good on paper, when lifted from text and placed in context it came undone, some places sooned, some later.

In a similar way, Plato stated in his "Republic" that democracy was little more than mob rule. Somewhere else I read " Democracy is doomed as soon as the voters realize that they can vote themselves bread and circus".

Today, with the emphasis on polls and the cloying attempt to generate political support by promising more and more entitlements to ever larger groups of people, can anyone help me understand why my second paragraph isn't a statement of future history.

Link Posted: 10/8/2004 8:11:09 AM EDT
We're not a democracy, we're a REPUBLIC,...... that's why it's not germain.

Mike
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 8:15:47 AM EDT
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 8:16:59 AM EDT
Ummm...would you like a glass of milk?


SGtar15
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 8:17:26 AM EDT
Mr. Wilson, I suspect you're playing semantic games with me. No, we are not a pure democracy, we elect representatives who cast votes in our stead. However, since as I stated, so many in government cast their votes as a result of polls, isn't the effect similar?
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 8:18:46 AM EDT
Thanks Doublefeed, I'm at work with a limited ability to research. And yes, I'm bored.
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 8:21:02 AM EDT

Originally Posted By sgtar15:
Ummm...would you like a glass of milk?


SGtar15



Glass of milk?, I don't get it. If its a reference to my age, I'll have you know I've been taking up space on this planet for 56 years.
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 8:27:00 AM EDT
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 8:29:47 AM EDT
Taking up space?

What part of NC are you from? Must be way up in the mountains where they make that good o'l mountain dew.
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 8:30:37 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/8/2004 8:31:32 AM EDT by GTOJudge885]

Originally Posted By mr_wilson:
We're not a democracy, we're a REPUBLIC,...... that's why it's not germain.

Mike



In all actuality we are more like a demublic than a republic. We are not a pure democracy nor a pure republic. Besides we are also a bit of an oligarchy too.
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 8:36:48 AM EDT
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 8:38:25 AM EDT

Originally Posted By bdorrman:

Originally Posted By sgtar15:
Ummm...would you like a glass of milk?


SGtar15



Glass of milk?, I don't get it. If its a reference to my age, I'll have you know I've been taking up space on this planet for 56 years.



Mylanta then?

Sgtar15
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 8:39:17 AM EDT

Originally Posted By mr_wilson:

We're not a democracy, we're a REPUBLIC,...... that's why it's not germain.

Mike




Are you SURE that is still true?
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 8:40:02 AM EDT
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 8:46:20 AM EDT

Originally Posted By sgtar15:

Originally Posted By bdorrman:

Originally Posted By sgtar15:
Ummm...would you like a glass of milk?


SGtar15



Glass of milk?, I don't get it. If its a reference to my age, I'll have you know I've been taking up space on this planet for 56 years.



Mylanta then?

Sgtar15



That's better.
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 8:53:39 AM EDT

Originally Posted By DoubleFeed:

Originally Posted By bdorrman:
Mr. Wilson, I suspect you're playing semantic games with me. No, we are not a pure democracy, we elect representatives who cast votes in our stead. However, since as I stated, so many in government cast their votes as a result of polls, isn't the effect similar?

Yes, we elect representatives, but that doesn't make us a democracy.
It is a big stretch to even characterize us as a democratic republic. Democracy means the people vote on the issues. Republic means that we elect or appoint representatives to vote on the issues in our place.
You can call it semantics if you like, but it IS a difference of definitions.



Your point is, of course, well taken, no two words have the same meaning. What I'm trying to figure out is if the effect of our current political situation transends the definition of the words I used?
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